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| 04:26.46 | JeffM | is it bad to make better diagrams then the instructor? |
| 04:45.05 | khonkhortisan | Prove the instructor wrong, write in the textbok how the question should be asked, don't assume your superior is always superior |
| 04:45.46 | khonkhortisan | When you can write the day's work on the chalkboard, you know you're ahead |
| 04:52.54 | JeffM | he wasn't wrong |
| 04:53.14 | JeffM | and hell NO I won't write in that textbook |
| 04:53.23 | JeffM | it's a rental, I ain't payin 190$ for it |
| 04:53.36 | khonkhortisan | not even for a spelling error? |
| 04:53.59 | JeffM | nope |
| 04:54.07 | JeffM | this is the diagram we did for lab work |
| 04:54.09 | JeffM | http://www.invertedpolarity.com/school/csc410/CSC410%20Lab%203%20Jeffery%20Myers.pdf |
| 04:54.21 | JeffM | this is the instructors version |
| 04:54.22 | JeffM | http://www.invertedpolarity.com/school/csc410/Week%203%20Lecture.pdf |
| 04:55.39 | JeffM | It just seems odd that he's used visio for years and I've use it for like 3 hours |
| 04:59.06 | JeffM | now my programing teacher is wrong sometimes |
| 04:59.09 | JeffM | and we call her on it |
| 04:59.20 | JeffM | she dosn't undertand what multithreading means |
| 04:59.43 | JeffM | well really she dosn't understand the difference between a thread and a process |
| 04:59.57 | khonkhortisan | that should be an easy one |
| 05:00.07 | JeffM | should being the operative word |
| 05:03.25 | khonkhortisan | maybe you can get graded on that flowchart even if it isn't an assignment |
| 05:04.44 | JeffM | it is an assignment, I will get graded on it |
| 05:05.20 | JeffM | it's not a flow chart, it's an entity relation diagram |
| 05:08.38 | khonkhortisan | /whisper (so the relations flow) |
| 05:08.49 | khonkhortisan | :) |
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| 17:06.57 | BulletCatcher | I can think of 2 reasons why repo access via svn+ssh would be noticeably faster than via https. |
| 17:07.03 | BulletCatcher | The first is compression: ssh compresses transmitted data by default. |
| 17:07.07 | BulletCatcher | Compression is possible in http(s) connections, but isn't always supported by both ends or requested. |
| 17:07.14 | BulletCatcher | The other is setup time: it looks like a single svn command uses only 1 ssh connection, but for http(s) it makes a separate connection per file. |
| 17:07.16 | BulletCatcher | The overhead of http headers is less of a factor than the round-trip time required to create multiple TCP sessions and, for https, to negotiate encryption. |
| 17:08.26 | blast007 | does keep-alive come into player for HTTPS SVN connections? |
| 17:08.29 | blast007 | into play* |
| 17:09.25 | BulletCatcher | I haven't seen any evidence that svn commands use that. |
| 17:15.50 | BulletCatcher | Regarding security vs. the inconvenience of typing passwords, using ssh and a dedicated public keypair without a passphrase is the same as https with the password "remembered". |
| 17:15.51 | BulletCatcher | In both cases, your credentials (either the secret key or the password) are stored unencrypted on your computer's disk drive. |
| 17:16.28 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: yeah, but before I only needed to auth when I was actually *writing* to SVN, not to read |
| 17:16.47 | blast007 | now every operation on the HTTPS or SVN+SSH requires auth, including checkout and update |
| 17:16.48 | BulletCatcher | Yup. That's a difference between https and svn+ssh. |
| 17:17.09 | BulletCatcher | Have you tried using https with the new repo? |
| 17:17.21 | blast007 | let me verify |
| 17:18.36 | blast007 | huh.. now today it's working with both URLs |
| 17:19.02 | blast007 | maybe I'm just going crazy :P |
| 17:19.05 | BulletCatcher | Maybe https works only on even-numbered days. |
| 17:19.18 | blast007 | I swear I was getting a password prompt when trying to 'svn up' |
| 17:21.01 | BulletCatcher | You probably did the first time, but then it cached it for subsequent use. |
| 17:21.37 | blast007 | I didn't give it my credentials |
| 17:21.53 | blast007 | oh wait, I think I switched to the read-only URL in this repo.. |
| 17:22.12 | blast007 | using the svn:// .. is that the read-write one, or read only? |
| 17:22.21 | alezakos | Read only |
| 17:22.33 | blast007 | bleh, no wonder my tests just worked then ;D |
| 17:22.40 | blast007 | so many URLs, so little time.. |
| 17:46.40 | BulletCatcher | The value of svnProtoURL in misc/bzls.lua needs to be changed, but I can't find a URL for the latest version of a specific file in the repo. |
| 17:48.21 | blast007 | HTTP access seems to work for that |
| 17:48.31 | blast007 | Example: http://svn.code.sf.net/p/bzflag/code/trunk/bzflag/README |
| 17:49.01 | blast007 | and yeah, HTTPS access at that new URL does require auth.. |
| 17:49.07 | blast007 | for read operations, I mean |
| 17:50.45 | BulletCatcher | That type of URL works. Thanks. |
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| 17:54.01 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22705 trunk/bzflag/misc/bzls.lua: Fetch the buildDate.cxx file using the new Subversion repo URL. |
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| 17:56.47 | blast007 | that part of the code seems... useless |
| 17:57.51 | BulletCatcher | I didn't bother to look at the program itself. :-p |
| 17:57.55 | blast007 | ;) |
| 17:59.32 | BulletCatcher | I get a "module 'socket' not found" error when I try to run it. |
| 18:01.08 | BulletCatcher | Apparently I need the lua-socket package. |
| 18:05.31 | alezakos | That section is useful when running bzls.lua with the -s option, which outputs the servers with the svn trunk protocol. Apparently, this was useful when 2.99 was in trunk |
| 18:25.34 | blast007 | yeah, but I'd think that would be unreliable anyways in case we change the game info hex string |
| 18:28.39 | alezakos | ~brad++ |
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| 23:48.52 | I_Died_Once | svn: Can't find a temporary directory: Internal error |
| 23:49.59 | JeffM | did you update your stuff? |
| 23:50.12 | I_Died_Once | was trying too |
| 23:50.18 | I_Died_Once | no where near out of space |
| 23:50.25 | JeffM | did you do the relocate? |
| 23:50.34 | I_Died_Once | got 109 gig free |
| 23:50.47 | I_Died_Once | what you mean? |
| 23:50.49 | JeffM | svn moved, did you fix your local repository |
| 23:51.01 | I_Died_Once | this must be a recent change |
| 23:51.04 | JeffM | yep |
| 23:51.12 | JeffM | early this week |
| 23:51.22 | I_Died_Once | grrrrr |
| 23:51.23 | JeffM | we did the SF project upgrade |
| 23:51.28 | JeffM | how were you connecting? |
| 23:51.35 | I_Died_Once | command line |
| 23:51.39 | JeffM | what URL? |
| 23:51.42 | JeffM | http or https? |
| 23:51.54 | I_Died_Once | I dunno... cd into the dir, and svn up |
| 23:52.13 | JeffM | run the script posted on the forums, it'll relocate you |
| 23:52.36 | JeffM | it is unknown how long and in what capacity the old URL will work for |