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| 00:51.49 | jeffm | aww yeah.. going to learn what a thing called a "database" is today |
| 00:53.02 | mebigfatguy | access? |
| 00:53.17 | jeffm | mysql |
| 00:53.22 | jeffm | suposedly |
| 00:53.42 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 00:54.21 | jeffm | I'm glad the class isn't using MSSql, I'd prefer to not install that |
| 00:55.56 | mebigfatguy | well apparently stored procedures aren't on the syllabus |
| 00:59.02 | allejo | jeffm, http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 00:59.34 | jeffm | indeed, it's sad that I had to tell a contractor about input santization |
| 01:00.53 | allejo | sanitation*? |
| 01:01.15 | jeffm | sure |
| 01:01.32 | allejo | inject all the tables! |
| 01:02.55 | jeffm | protect all the tables ;) |
| 01:04.41 | allejo | maybe you can use what you learn today to help bz! |
| 01:25.57 | I_Died_Once | allejo, nice |
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| 02:04.50 | BulletCatcher | We always knew that Constitution was evil. Now we have proof. |
| 02:08.34 | jeffm | allejo, I generally don't do service stuff but yes it will probably help me understand good database design |
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| 06:06.46 | Constitution | :/ |
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| 14:39.40 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22695 trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Send command error messages to the chat box -- where they are more likely to be seen -- instead of standard error. |
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| 16:08.53 | BulletCatcher | I am trying to find info about the use of the _old_linux_ macro in include/network.h, which is already there in svn revision 2 (two). |
| 16:08.57 | BulletCatcher | Is there an easy way for me to browse pre-Subversion BZFlag changes? |
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| 16:11.44 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, you should have access to re-enable the CVS repositor and browse history there |
| 16:11.52 | JeffM | repository even |
| 16:14.40 | JeffM | if you don't I should and can turn it on for you |
| 16:14.58 | BulletCatcher | I re-enabled CVS. Thanks. |
| 16:15.18 | JeffM | cool |
| 16:16.01 | BulletCatcher | Should I disable it after I am done? |
| 16:16.08 | JeffM | yeah |
| 16:16.12 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 16:16.24 | JeffM | otherwise people may be confused as to what repository is active |
| 16:18.04 | BulletCatcher | Okay, so how do I look back further than CVS rev 1.1 of 5 March 2000? |
| 16:18.42 | JeffM | that's the first commit to CVS? |
| 16:18.59 | BulletCatcher | That's what I see in the SF CVS repo. |
| 16:19.04 | JeffM | then yeah that's it |
| 16:19.10 | JeffM | that's when bzflag went open source |
| 16:19.21 | JeffM | you don't have access to any older versions |
| 16:19.26 | JeffM | oddly... I do |
| 16:19.32 | JeffM | let me see what I have |
| 16:20.23 | BulletCatcher | I am re-closing the CVS repo, because its history is in Subversion. |
| 16:21.41 | JeffM | I'm searching my drive to see what old ones I have |
| 16:22.00 | JeffM | tho they probalby don't have any kind of comments for why the thing you want is there |
| 16:22.50 | BulletCatcher | What bugs me the most is that the line reads: |
| 16:22.53 | BulletCatcher | #if defined(__linux__) && !defined(_old_linux_) |
| 16:23.05 | BulletCatcher | I think that the ! shouldn't be there. |
| 16:23.24 | JeffM | does anything define _old_linux_? |
| 16:23.41 | BulletCatcher | Not in our code. |
| 16:23.56 | JeffM | does google know anything about it as a define? |
| 16:24.16 | blast007 | I doubt we even support whatever "old linux" was defined as in the late 90's ;) |
| 16:24.19 | BulletCatcher | Almost all of the the Google hits are BZFlag code. :-) |
| 16:25.08 | BulletCatcher | It occurs to me that _old_linux_ could be set in an old version of configure.ac. I'll look. |
| 16:25.11 | JeffM | remove it and see what happens |
| 16:25.34 | JeffM | or the old make files before we had configure ;) |
| 16:25.41 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. |
| 16:26.05 | JeffM | but it looks like I don't have any of my closed source source dirs here |
| 16:26.26 | BulletCatcher | That's okay. |
| 16:26.33 | BulletCatcher | In the not-too-distant future I want to narrow the set of operating systems that we officially support, to allow us to remove cruft like this. |
| 16:26.45 | JeffM | well I'm just hoping I didn't loose them |
| 16:27.24 | blast007 | maybe they're backed up onto a zip disk |
| 16:27.31 | JeffM | heh |
| 16:27.43 | JeffM | no, thankfully I never owned a zip drive |
| 16:28.09 | blast007 | I have a disk, but never had my own drive. ;) |
| 16:29.45 | BulletCatcher | Even the 1.7c sources use _old_linux_ but never set it. |
| 16:30.05 | JeffM | yeah I have stuff older then that |
| 16:30.10 | JeffM | a and b |
| 16:32.05 | JeffM | yeah just not here, must be at home on the nas |
| 16:32.20 | BulletCatcher | I have access to a system running Solaris from 1995. |
| 16:32.22 | BulletCatcher | That may help. |
| 16:32.31 | JeffM | no source |
| 16:33.19 | BulletCatcher | The old system header files may have quirks that _old_linux_ is designed for. |
| 16:33.26 | JeffM | that is possible |
| 16:34.01 | JeffM | ahah, found one from 1997 |
| 16:34.21 | JeffM | and.... it dosn't have an include dir :) |
| 16:34.29 | blast007 | heh |
| 16:35.20 | blast007 | Back in the days when bzfs was mostly a single huge file.. |
| 16:35.44 | JeffM | yep BZFS.CXX is th only file in SRC\BZFS |
| 16:35.49 | blast007 | heh |
| 16:36.00 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, do you want me to look into the makefiles? |
| 16:36.20 | blast007 | that made my linux system with 32MB of RAM cry.. compiling bzfs took about a week |
| 16:37.29 | JeffM | hey, found one from 1996 |
| 16:37.45 | BulletCatcher | If you can "grep -r" that would be the easiest way to search for it. |
| 16:37.53 | JeffM | I can not |
| 16:38.00 | JeffM | but I can do something similar ;) |
| 16:39.57 | JeffM | yeah, dosn't show up |
| 16:40.04 | JeffM | I found network.h and it's very short |
| 16:40.45 | JeffM | so it must have been added between 1997 and 2000 |
| 16:43.20 | JeffM | and the makefile.linux is nearly blank |
| 16:43.37 | BulletCatcher | The 1995 Solaris 2.5 version of /usr/include/sys/socket.h declares the 4th argument of setsockopt() as "const char *", so that is consistent with the modern standard. |
| 16:44.29 | BulletCatcher | I'll try to find some ancient Linux RPMs. |
| 16:44.31 | JeffM | remove it and see who complains :) |
| 16:44.42 | BulletCatcher | I'll probably end up doing that. |
| 16:44.58 | JeffM | well at least I haven't lost that code |
| 16:45.02 | BulletCatcher | yay |
| 16:46.17 | JeffM | totaly dosn't build in VC8 |
| 16:47.55 | BulletCatcher | Our current configure script checks for socklen_t, so I think I can safely remove the AddrLen hack. |
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