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| 00:50.37 | jeffmOSX | agh I forgot to add the other cpp file, my bad |
| 00:51.03 | BulletCatcher | Typos, too. |
| 00:51.13 | jeffmOSX | I suck, I'm sorry |
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| 01:02.56 | BulletCatcher | The new serverSidePlayerSample plugin needs to be added to Xcode. |
| 01:02.57 | BulletCatcher | It would be nice to have that process documented. |
| 01:03.28 | jeffmOSX | step one, put in your white earbuds |
| 01:03.38 | jeffmOSX | step two, play a song on your iPod or iPhone |
| 01:04.08 | jeffmOSX | step three, open a webpage on your iPhad |
| 01:04.17 | jeffmOSX | step four, give apple 30% |
| 01:04.32 | BulletCatcher | I am finding this process completely credible so far.... |
| 01:04.45 | jeffmOSX | I know how to add a file to one of the existing executables, I don't know how to add a new target module tho |
| 01:06.31 | jeffmOSX | hmmm there is this "add target button" |
| 01:06.52 | BulletCatcher | Don't push it! |
| 01:07.08 | jeffmOSX | I looked at the trap Ray. |
| 01:07.58 | jeffmOSX | ooooo I can duplicate a targer |
| 01:08.11 | jeffmOSX | target |
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| 01:17.16 | jeffmOSX | yeah I have no idea what I'm doing :) |
| 01:19.12 | jeffmOSX | we'll have to get Constitution to document it |
| 01:27.00 | jeffmOSX | hmmm I can't even find out where it puts the bundle when it builds it |
| 01:27.26 | BulletCatcher | Spotlight may help with that. |
| 01:31.20 | jeffmOSX | found it, there was a "reveal in finder" option in the edit menu once you select the .app bundle |
| 01:47.16 | jeffmOSX | hmm, I think I got it but for some reason Xcode can no longer find my SDL header files |
| 01:48.15 | blast007 | did you try buying something on iTunes first? |
| 01:49.51 | jeffmOSX | I knew I shouldn't have swapped to amazon mp3 |
| 01:50.32 | jeffmOSX | there have been a few Xcode updates since I last built |
| 01:51.30 | jeffmOSX | is there anyone here who can build on OSX? |
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| 02:07.36 | McSpider | jeffmOSX: I can but I need to change #include "SDL.h" to #include <SDL/SDL.h> in SDLMain.m first |
| 02:07.46 | jeffmOSX | oh that fixes it? |
| 02:07.52 | jeffmOSX | cis that's the error I'm having too |
| 02:08.01 | McSpider | yeah it should |
| 02:08.31 | jeffmOSX | I'll try that, thanks |
| 02:10.09 | McSpider | I also had a problem in AresHandler.h where it didn't see that BUILD_ARES was defined, havent found a propper fix for that yet |
| 02:10.28 | jeffmOSX | I don't have that, but the include change made my platform work |
| 02:22.46 | jeffmOSX | aha, got it |
| 02:22.49 | jeffmOSX | I think |
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| 02:37.58 | Constitution | http://wiki.bzflag.org/Plugins#Third_Party_Plug-ins |
| 02:38.37 | jeffmOSX | I think that's bassicly what I did |
| 02:38.46 | Constitution | McSpider: you probably need to update to the latest SDL and our latest SVN code, then |
| 02:39.06 | jeffmOSX | Constitution, I have the latest of them all and still had to edit the .m file |
| 02:39.09 | Constitution | which should be 1.2.15 |
| 02:39.16 | Constitution | huh... |
| 02:39.44 | jeffmOSX | well I think I do |
| 02:39.52 | jeffmOSX | let me blow out my framework and redo it |
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| 02:44.26 | Constitution | I'm trying to alter the build settings to avoid that issue |
| 02:46.30 | Constitution | I think I asked before, but is there a way to make SVN ignore changes to a file by default unless it's explicitly added to the commit? |
| 02:46.30 | jeffmOSX | Constitution, with current svn and current framework, I no longer build with current xcode |
| 02:46.42 | jeffmOSX | with out adding the <SDL/.. |
| 02:46.57 | Constitution | k I'm trying now |
| 02:47.31 | Constitution | works for me :/ |
| 02:47.45 | Constitution | you have to alter SDLMain.m? |
| 02:48.22 | jeffmOSX | yeah |
| 02:48.47 | jeffmOSX | I am using Xcode 4.6 (4h127) |
| 02:49.54 | jeffmOSX | it used to work and the only things that have changed is our code and xcode |
| 02:49.56 | Constitution | same |
| 02:50.18 | Constitution | yesterday I committed the SDLMain.m/h for SDL 1.2.15 |
| 02:50.25 | jeffmOSX | ahh |
| 02:50.45 | jeffmOSX | well I threw out my framework, downloaded 1.2.15 and copied it in |
| 02:50.48 | jeffmOSX | then restarted xcode |
| 02:51.25 | Constitution | and it's in /Library/Frameworks? |
| 02:51.29 | jeffmOSX | yep |
| 02:51.50 | Constitution | I'll try a clean checkout |
| 02:55.31 | Constitution | ah there |
| 02:55.56 | jeffmOSX | so we aren't crazy? |
| 02:56.33 | jeffmOSX | the #include< makes more sense to me, since < is for system libs and " is for project local stuff |
| 02:57.46 | Constitution | yeah I don't know why they changed it? that file is straight from their release disk image |
| 02:58.17 | jeffmOSX | it probably builds fine from within sdl because then the files are local to there |
| 02:58.23 | Constitution | probably just need to alter that file and commit it, since I think they did it wrong |
| 02:59.27 | jeffmOSX | I've seen other libs have the same problems too |
| 02:59.37 | jeffmOSX | usually with the GL headers |
| 03:00.18 | jeffmOSX | SDL on OSX is odd that you have to include a source file from the lib in the build of apps that use it |
| 03:00.27 | blast007 | think different |
| 03:00.30 | jeffmOSX | SDLMain is in the DLL on windows |
| 03:00.39 | jeffmOSX | so you just don't put a main |
| 03:00.44 | jeffmOSX | and it magically work |
| 03:01.09 | jeffmOSX | well it's in a sub lib since you may not want it |
| 03:04.08 | Notify | 03BZFlag:macsforme * 22687 trunk/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/SDLMain.m: Look for the SDL header in the right place. |
| 03:06.23 | jeffmOSX | so did I get the plugin right? |
| 03:06.52 | brlcad | http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/FAQDevelopment#Do_I_.23include_.3CSDL.h.3E_or_.3CSDL.2BAC8-SDL.h.3E.3F |
| 03:07.38 | jeffmOSX | the only way for that to work is to set your include paths to have the /SDL folder |
| 03:09.16 | brlcad | that's why they suggest that, it's not always in an SDL subfolder |
| 03:09.29 | jeffmOSX | ahh |
| 03:09.40 | jeffmOSX | then the Xcode project would have to change to accommodate that |
| 03:10.04 | jeffmOSX | metadata for the win :) |
| 03:11.30 | Constitution | so now on the wiki we have redundant instructions for adding plugins to the xcode project |
| 03:11.42 | jeffmOSX | then delete mine |
| 03:11.56 | jeffmOSX | and edit yours to be more then just third party ones ;) |
| 03:12.06 | jeffmOSX | is that article referenced in the mac read me? |
| 03:12.15 | jeffmOSX | or maybe the sample plugin readme? |
| 03:13.29 | Constitution | looks like not |
| 03:14.34 | Constitution | I'll try to write something up for the sample plugin readme |
| 03:14.45 | jeffmOSX | cool |
| 03:15.00 | Constitution | do you have to be a wiki admin to delete pages? |
| 03:15.09 | jeffmOSX | probably |
| 03:15.37 | jeffmOSX | I'll delete mine |
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| 08:04.37 | BulletCatcher | Constitution or anyone else with a Mac: Do you get 999+ "Implicit conversion shortens 64-bit value into a 32-bit value" warnings when Xcode compiles? |
| 08:04.59 | BulletCatcher | I am using Xcode 4.1 on Lion. That may matter. |
| 08:07.33 | BulletCatcher | A typical example looks like "float f = 0.0;" and it is fixed by replacing "0.0" with "0.0f". |
| 08:08.34 | BulletCatcher | The warning seems legitimate but excessively picky. |
| 08:10.09 | BulletCatcher | I haven't figured out how to get gcc to generate the same warnings. |
| 08:12.26 | BulletCatcher | gcc -Wconversion flags a different set of things. |
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| 14:40.12 | blast007 | alezakos: what is that common.js thing? |
| 14:40.21 | alezakos | nothing important |
| 14:40.39 | alezakos | it was supposed to be a script for mediawiki to show navigation popups |
| 14:40.53 | alezakos | (just for me, as it's on my own userpage) |
| 14:41.15 | alezakos | but it won't work, as it probably needs modifications on your side |
| 14:42.14 | alezakos | Here's an example of a popup: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Popup-preview.png/400px-Popup-preview.png |
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| 16:29.19 | blast007 | TimRiker: Did you hear anything further regarding ns.mecworks.com? |
| 16:32.16 | TimRiker | talked to him on #utah, said he'd look into it. not heard since. |
| 16:32.22 | blast007 | k |
| 16:37.27 | BulletCatcher | How much longer before removing that useless NS record? |
| 16:40.43 | blast007 | TimRiker: I'd be fine running a primary DNS zone from the bzflag.org VM. I've been testing out bind on a separate VM for testing purposes. I could have the zone files in a Mercurial repository on bitbucket.org. Main thing left is some kind of automated update script. |
| 16:42.40 | blast007 | TimRiker: and did you mention that you had used BuddyNS before? |
| 16:55.17 | swigg | How can a file repository be 'Mecurical'? |
| 16:55.30 | swigg | badly organized? Poorly labeled? |
| 16:55.34 | swigg | slow speed? |
| 16:57.02 | blast007 | swigg: http://mercurial.selenic.com/ |
| 16:58.56 | swigg | Well, I saw the capital M and wondered. |
| 17:05.38 | I_Died_Once | capital letters scare me too |
| 17:06.10 | blast007 | I_Died_Once: O'RLY? |
| 17:06.21 | I_Died_Once | shakes in his boots |
| 17:06.55 | I_Died_Once | cowers in fear |
| 17:25.05 | TimRiker | blast007, yes, I've set it up on buddy, but I get less than a week of traffic before they shut it down. |
| 17:25.49 | TimRiker | blast007, pretty continual dns aggregation attacks hitting china. Don't know where they are coming from. uses up all the bandwidth. |
| 17:26.13 | blast007 | fun |
| 17:26.49 | TimRiker | I'm working on upgrading my dsl and then I'll add mine back as published. |
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| 19:03.03 | JeffM | wow those apple 4000 drivers must really suck |
| 19:05.37 | JeffM | because the 4000 hardware is suposed to be much better then the 3000 |
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| 20:16.29 | Constitution | BulletCatcher: yeah I get those same warnings on Xcode 4.6 under ML |
| 20:18.50 | BulletCatcher | At least it isn't just me. :-) |
| 20:18.54 | Constitution | JeffM: I hardly understood one word of his post regarding the HD 4000? so I don't know what's actually helping. If the build I posted is working better, I still don't understand how that change (disabling vsync) could possibly affect this issue. |
| 20:36.45 | blast007 | Constitution: ashvala did a build of BZFlag with an older SDL version (1.2.10) which supposedly made the game run better on the HD 4000.. somehow.. |
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| 20:42.03 | blast007 | I don't know any information about it beyond that, though. |
| 20:50.01 | Constitution | ah |
| 20:52.35 | Constitution | does not understand how any of this could be related to SDL |
| 20:53.19 | blast007 | neither did I |
| 20:53.36 | blast007 | we don't really use SDL for all that much... isn't it just for creating the window and setting up the OpenGL context? |
| 20:55.02 | blast007 | my only tought was vsync, but I'm not sure if SDL does anything to enable/disable that |
| 20:55.53 | Constitution | proposes that the project buy him a $1,779 MBP retina so he can diagnose the issue |
| 20:57.39 | Constitution | blast007: the test build I posted on the forums the other day had the new build system, the latest SDL, and vsync turned off in SDL |
| 20:58.16 | Constitution | after following up with him, seems performance is normal now |
| 20:58.21 | blast007 | I don't think it was even a retina display that ashvala was using ;) |
| 20:58.44 | blast007 | unless 1440x900 is retina |
| 20:59.27 | blast007 | doh, and they set the quality to low |
| 20:59.35 | blast007 | ashvala did, I mean |
| 20:59.47 | blast007 | that generally makes the game run *slower* on hardware accelerated 3D |
| 21:03.20 | Constitution | kajo said he gets 200 fps with the build that has vsync disabled in SDL |
| 21:03.36 | Constitution | so that could very well be the issue, although I still don't know why |
| 21:04.19 | blast007 | what kind of FPS were they getting with vsync enabled? |
| 21:05.15 | Constitution | normal fps until there were tanks in the scene, then it would drop to 2-3 fps |
| 21:05.23 | blast007 | weird |
| 21:05.28 | Constitution | so supposedly that issue is gone |
| 21:05.51 | blast007 | was the *only* difference that vsync was enabled/disabled, or were they other changes? |
| 21:05.57 | blast007 | there* |
| 21:08.02 | Constitution | aside from including the latest SDL, just whatever has gone into trunk since 2.4.2 |
| 21:09.59 | blast007 | not a very good experiment then ;) |
| 21:11.42 | blast007 | there's been 160 commits since we tagged 2.4.2 |
| 21:11.58 | JeffM | Constitution, unless this build is linked different somehow |
| 21:12.29 | blast007 | hmm, 2.4.2 didn't have the proper XCode project, did it? |
| 21:12.53 | JeffM | no it used the script |
| 21:13.04 | JeffM | so there are probalby small differences in how the bin is linked |
| 21:13.09 | blast007 | yep |
| 21:13.38 | blast007 | I'd be curious if a build with trunk with the same SDL version we used for 2.4.2 would run any better/worse than with the latest SDL |
| 21:13.51 | blast007 | my guess is it would run the same |
| 21:13.52 | JeffM | it's also now using llvm not gcc |
| 21:14.36 | blast007 | well, even before, wasn't it using llvm? or was it build on an older system that actually still had gcc? I was thinking that the 'gcc' command on newer OSX was just a symlink or wrapper to llvm. |
| 21:14.45 | blast007 | built* |
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| 21:15.04 | JeffM | I think it was built using 10.6 using gcc |
| 21:15.27 | JeffM | I belive Constitution made it before he upgraded to 10.8 |
| 21:15.28 | blast007 | ah |
| 21:15.36 | blast007 | that itself could be the difference |
| 21:15.40 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:15.50 | JeffM | enough has changed for it to make some sense that there be differences |
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| 22:39.07 | Constitution | well, it would be simple enough to build bz without vsync disabled, and compare |
| 22:39.13 | Constitution | if we need a definitive answer |
| 22:39.31 | Constitution | I think brlcad made the original xcode project |
| 22:40.14 | Constitution | ashvala, want to give that a shot? |
| 22:40.30 | ashvala | Constitution, sureā¦ |
| 22:41.38 | JeffM | we have an internal frame limit of like 200 right? |
| 22:41.49 | JeffM | or was that only 2.99? |
| 22:41.50 | blast007 | in any case, the same person should build both versions |
| 22:41.55 | blast007 | I think only 2.99.x |
| 22:42.07 | JeffM | we should backport that |
| 22:42.19 | JeffM | the max and min steps helped a lot |
| 22:44.06 | Constitution | ashvala: it's SDLDisplay.cxx:527 |
| 22:45.58 | ashvala | got the line |
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