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| 02:48.08 | khonkhortisan | When you don't know the math, trial and error will get you there. Eventually. |
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| 03:27.51 | allejo | 1+1=3 |
| 03:27.53 | allejo | 1+1=4 |
| 03:27.54 | allejo | 1+1=5 |
| 03:27.57 | allejo | 1+1=6 |
| 03:28.00 | allejo | it's not working |
| 03:28.22 | khonkhortisan | it's a game of higher or lower, where you can guess how far you are from the answer |
| 03:29.22 | allejo | 1+1=1 |
| 03:29.22 | khonkhortisan | 1+1≠3 lower 1+1≠1 higher 1+1=2 |
| 03:29.57 | allejo | i can count to potato! |
| 03:30.04 | blast007 | sin+cos=pi |
| 03:30.21 | khonkhortisan | eclipse doesn't understand #include "math.h" |
| 03:30.54 | khonkhortisan | deg2Rad can be used as rad2Deg |
| 03:42.51 | khonkhortisan | wants to subtract arrays |
| 03:46.06 | khonkhortisan | float camerapos[3] = LocalPlayer::getMyTank()->getPosition() - pos; |
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| 04:00.38 | khonkhortisan | Using the positions of the bottoms of the tank to get an angle between them is equivalent to using their view positions |
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| 06:10.30 | khonkhortisan | Notify, do your job! |
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| 11:22.48 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Bullet Catcher * 8591 /Master-ChildAccountSystem: spelling, grammar, note a BZID complication |
| 11:26.28 | Notify | 03BZFlag:khonkhortisan * 22656 trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/effectsRenderer.cxx: Barrel roll shot flash toward camerausing single-sided face |
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| 11:52.12 | blast007 | DO A BARREL ROLL! |
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| 15:23.52 | brlcad | barrel rolls |
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| 18:30.43 | khonkhortisan | The character, "" messes up my monospace font |
| 18:32.26 | blast007 | the double quote? or was there supposed to be something between those? |
| 18:33.34 | BulletCatcher | It's an escape character. |
| 18:33.35 | DTRemenak | escape (0x1b) |
| 18:34.25 | khonkhortisan | it shows up as four numbers surrounded by a box, taking up more than one character of space. But it doesn't take an int of spaces, so the rest of the line is horizontally off from the other lines |
| 18:34.48 | DTRemenak | is this in the client, or elsewhere? |
| 18:34.57 | khonkhortisan | in xchat |
| 18:35.04 | DTRemenak | ah. don't care then :) |
| 18:35.07 | khonkhortisan | the client can't handle characters like that |
| 18:35.21 | DTRemenak | yes, it can...it interprets them as escape |
| 18:35.32 | khonkhortisan | oh |
| 18:35.52 | DTRemenak | or it's supposed to...if it doesn't, then we missed an ANSI decode somewhere |
| 18:36.10 | khonkhortisan | What format is the tank model in? |
| 18:36.16 | DTRemenak | that's what lets server messages change colors, for instance |
| 18:36.22 | DTRemenak | format? |
| 18:36.26 | DTRemenak | it's hardcoded |
| 18:36.31 | khonkhortisan | :( |
| 18:36.57 | khonkhortisan | I was going to open it in blender and find out where the turret ends |
| 18:37.19 | JeffM | there should be a link to an obj file |
| 18:37.23 | JeffM | on the wiki |
| 18:37.27 | JeffM | I exported it once |
| 18:37.32 | JeffM | it was a HUGE pain in the butt |
| 18:37.33 | khonkhortisan | that's what I was looking for, and it's not in the source |
| 18:37.37 | JeffM | nope |
| 18:37.42 | JeffM | we don't read models |
| 18:37.53 | JeffM | the obj is not the source, it is the output of the source ;) |
| 18:38.11 | khonkhortisan | As long as it's correct, it's useful |
| 18:38.39 | JeffM | it's mostly correct |
| 18:39.01 | JeffM | it dosn't have the wheels, or the open fender, or the other options |
| 18:39.13 | JeffM | the in game tank is quite dynamic based on your settings |
| 18:41.35 | khonkhortisan | The requested URL /resources/models/Tank.obj was not found on this server. |
| 18:42.07 | JeffM | what is the URL? is it one of my servers? |
| 18:42.18 | khonkhortisan | The export doesn't exist |
| 18:42.37 | khonkhortisan | The wavefront obj file at http://wiki.bzflag.org/Tank |
| 18:42.56 | khonkhortisan | oh. my.bzflag.org |
| 18:43.00 | JeffM | the file is hosted externaly IIRC |
| 18:43.28 | JeffM | yeah it moved or got deleted |
| 18:43.58 | JeffM | let me search my drive |
| 18:48.41 | JeffM | ok, I checked in what I belive is the old tank |
| 18:49.55 | JeffM | it's in misc now |
| 18:50.14 | khonkhortisan | it loads on its side :) |
| 18:50.28 | JeffM | yeah your editor has Y as UP |
| 18:50.32 | JeffM | because it's LAME |
| 18:50.37 | JeffM | bzflag uses Z as up |
| 18:50.40 | khonkhortisan | blender is lame?! |
| 18:50.50 | JeffM | in some respects yes ;) |
| 18:51.15 | khonkhortisan | it has y sideways, maybe it expects the obj to be saved the other way |
| 18:51.23 | khonkhortisan | minetest has y up |
| 18:51.35 | JeffM | many things have Y up |
| 18:51.47 | JeffM | It's openGL's default orientation |
| 18:52.24 | JeffM | it's just something you have to pick when making a 3d world |
| 18:52.55 | khonkhortisan | I guess it saves vertices to not put one on the end of the barrel |
| 18:53.16 | JeffM | it's a planar cap, no need to make it a fan |
| 18:54.23 | JeffM | the new tank has a hollow barrel and a muzzle break |
| 18:55.54 | JeffM | I may have rotated that obj export in lightwave, I have no editor here to look at it in |
| 19:00.15 | blast007 | yeah, guess that wasn't something I migrated to the new system |
| 19:00.29 | JeffM | we can just link it to svn now, tha'ts better anyway |
| 19:12.28 | JeffM | notify seems unhappy |
| 19:17.31 | khonkhortisan | Muzzle height is off by 0.02, and muzzle front is off by 0.52. |
| 19:17.47 | JeffM | sooo close |
| 19:17.54 | khonkhortisan | Fixing it will affect _boxHeight. |
| 19:18.03 | JeffM | then HELL NO |
| 19:18.11 | JeffM | we can't change the hit box |
| 19:18.25 | JeffM | and the tank is suposed to stik out a bit from the box |
| 19:18.51 | khonkhortisan | is _muzzleFront used in collision? |
| 19:19.03 | blast007 | I don't think so |
| 19:19.05 | JeffM | what is it a variable? |
| 19:19.15 | khonkhortisan | yes, in global.cxx |
| 19:19.21 | blast007 | he's referring to BZDB vars in both cases |
| 19:19.23 | JeffM | that means it's on the server |
| 19:19.29 | blast007 | _boxHeight is not related to the tank |
| 19:19.48 | JeffM | why is it affected by the tank values then? |
| 19:20.01 | khonkhortisan | dunno |
| 19:20.08 | blast007 | that's used to generate the random worlds, I believe |
| 19:20.36 | blast007 | and for some radar rendering stuffs, it seems |
| 19:20.45 | khonkhortisan | it'll make boxes shorter by 0.12 world units |
| 19:21.23 | blast007 | Yeah, don't do that. |
| 19:21.58 | blast007 | What are you trying to fix, exactly? |
| 19:22.14 | khonkhortisan | where the shot effects are drawn |
| 19:22.31 | JeffM | then change where they are drawn, don't change the underlying data untill we can refactor it all |
| 19:22.43 | JeffM | we can't have different versions of the server/client use different values |
| 19:22.44 | khonkhortisan | okay, I think that means Player::getMuzzle |
| 19:22.47 | blast007 | I don't see what _boxHeight has to do with any of that |
| 19:22.56 | JeffM | no just change the DRAWING code |
| 19:23.00 | khonkhortisan | _boxHeight = 6.0 * _muzzleHeight |
| 19:23.54 | JeffM | getMuzzle is used elsewhere |
| 19:24.02 | khonkhortisan | like the actual shot height? |
| 19:24.06 | JeffM | for now hack in a corrected offet just in the effect |
| 19:24.06 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:24.18 | khonkhortisan | I'll subtract the current, and add the nuw |
| 19:24.20 | JeffM | we don't want one version shooting higher then others |
| 19:24.20 | khonkhortisan | *new |
| 19:24.29 | khonkhortisan | (lower) |
| 19:24.36 | JeffM | the older would be higher then ;) |
| 19:24.38 | blast007 | one with be higher |
| 19:24.40 | blast007 | would* |
| 19:25.01 | JeffM | subtract the 2 offsets and add the delta, don't make it more complex then it needs to be |
| 19:25.17 | JeffM | also put a TODO comment there to have us get the values from tags in the model |
| 19:25.21 | khonkhortisan | looks up "delta" |
| 19:25.27 | blast007 | difference |
| 19:25.28 | JeffM | difference between 2 numbers |
| 19:25.39 | JeffM | we want to stop hardcoding things at some point |
| 19:26.48 | JeffM | all this would be a great thing to review when we break proto |
| 19:27.08 | JeffM | feeds |
| 20:03.23 | khonkhortisan | thinks he is paying too much attention to detail - the jumpjets image isn't centered. |
| 20:14.59 | khonkhortisan | ping Notify |
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| 21:21.15 | JeffM | blast007, did anything change with the bzflag SF svn notifications yesterday with all the DNS stuff? |
| 21:30.56 | blast007 | nope |
| 21:31.08 | blast007 | the only DNS stuff I've played with is on the test VM |
| 21:31.17 | blast007 | and on the polar bear domain |
| 21:31.44 | blast007 | the SVN notifications are done through the commit email list I believe |
| 21:34.03 | JeffM | I can totaly envision the biz cards for that domain :) |
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