| 00:12.21 | khonkhortisan | bad design: match server with no spawning, chatting, team chatting, admin channel, report, or help. |
| 00:31.04 | jeffm | many servers are poorly setup |
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| 01:10.11 | JeffM | Is BZID a number or a string? |
| 01:10.24 | JeffM | or a string that just happens to be a number? |
| 01:14.07 | blast007 | it's treated as a string, but all of them are numbers currently |
| 01:17.52 | JeffM | so it'd be ok for child IDs to be like CID-MASTER_BZID-CHILD-ID |
| 01:18.01 | JeffM | so like CID-42-1 |
| 01:19.20 | blast007 | is there an advantage to doing that? |
| 01:20.17 | JeffM | you can know who the parrent is by looking at the ID |
| 01:20.47 | JeffM | it would let the server have bans by BZID and also ban child accounts |
| 01:21.01 | blast007 | hrm.. |
| 01:21.19 | JeffM | ether that or the list server would have to return the masterBZID too |
| 01:21.35 | blast007 | I'd almost prefer that |
| 01:21.36 | JeffM | there are advantages to letting the servers relate master to child |
| 01:21.43 | JeffM | that requires client changes |
| 01:22.23 | blast007 | for backwards compatability (2.4 and back) just have the list return the master ID as their bzid |
| 01:22.38 | JeffM | but not the groups? |
| 01:22.57 | JeffM | if someone was using superuser plugin it would give the child superuser |
| 01:23.06 | blast007 | hmm.. |
| 01:23.14 | JeffM | thats why I figured different ID |
| 01:23.59 | JeffM | it would also be nice to flag the account as a child with out the calling server having to ask for the CHILD group |
| 01:25.15 | blast007 | my main reason against having a predictable ID for child accounts is that you could then identify siblings... dunno if that's really that big of a deal though |
| 01:26.34 | JeffM | true |
| 01:27.08 | JeffM | well then we generate a reandom bzID for them, with a prefix like C so it dosn't collide with PHPBB |
| 01:27.18 | JeffM | and have the list send the master ID as a seperate field |
| 01:27.31 | blast007 | it's not really going to be an issue for collisions |
| 01:27.36 | JeffM | and if you want to have the server use that, you have to update ;) |
| 01:27.37 | khonkhortisan | then you don't have to change the number when they stop being children |
| 01:27.53 | blast007 | after we migrate to the new system, forum IDs will not necessarily be the same as BZIDs |
| 01:28.38 | JeffM | the design allows for a time where master accounts are managed by PHPBB and child accounts by the Child DB, so collisions can happen |
| 01:28.49 | blast007 | we'd just want to maintain the existing BZIDs so that existing bans will apply to the right people |
| 01:29.16 | JeffM | if we make it a requirement that the master account system manage all users, it will take longer to imlement |
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| 07:38.31 | blast007 | Chestal: not sure if it's related or not, but I'm seeing some weird stuff on my server. Players with low scores (around -30) are moving and turning faster. I'm running the latest SVN code, but I do not have handicap enabled on my server. |
| 07:39.00 | blast007 | it's like it is providing a handicap for those players |
| 07:39.22 | blast007 | thought it was a cheat client at first, but now it has happened to at least 4 players in the last 24 to 48 hours |
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| 08:20.05 | khonkhortisan | What server? I want to try it |
| 08:21.27 | blast007 | I worked around the issue for now |
| 08:22.00 | blast007 | I added this to my config '-set _handicapAngAd 1 -set _handicapShotAd 1 -set _handicapVelAd 1' |
| 08:22.31 | blast007 | and set them manually in-game.. the issue went away immediately after setting those vars to 1 |
| 08:22.51 | blast007 | but none of that should be used unless -handicap is used on the command line for the server |
| 08:23.04 | blast007 | but I'll look at it when it's not 2AM |
| 08:23.04 | khonkhortisan | So it's definitely the handicap |
| 08:23.07 | blast007 | yup |
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| 10:58.47 | alezakos | This looks like a suspicious page: http://wiki.bzflag.org/User:NancyK92 |
| 12:41.02 | FastLizard4 | alezakos: Looks? It's spam, definitely. :P |
| 12:41.45 | alezakos | :) |
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| 14:54.01 | blast007 | hmm... I don't know much about bitwise operations... |
| 14:54.17 | blast007 | Is this: if (!clOptions->gameOptions & HandicapGameStyle) |
| 14:54.31 | blast007 | The same as this: if (clOptions->gameOptions & HandicapGameStyle) != 0) |
| 14:54.57 | blast007 | er, insert an extra ( in the second one before clOptions |
| 14:55.30 | blast007 | or is the first one applying the ! to clOptions->gameOptions, and THEN doing a bitwise and? |
| 14:58.42 | alezakos | blast007: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Programming_languages |
| 15:00.58 | alezakos | To me, it seems as if they're doing the same job |
| 15:05.58 | blast007 | doesn't that link say that ! is done before & ? |
| 15:06.52 | alezakos | yes, it does |
| 15:07.15 | blast007 | so then they would not be the same |
| 15:10.34 | blast007 | yeah, that's the issue |
| 15:11.04 | blast007 | if (!clOptions->gameOptions & HandicapGameStyle) is evaluating to true, so it's running some parts of the handicap stuff even when it isn't supposed to |
| 15:11.27 | alezakos | is that client or server code? |
| 15:11.30 | blast007 | server |
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| 16:26.40 | blast007 | I have that latest revision running at bzexcess.com, so hopefully I get some gameplay there tonight with conditions that would have triggered this previously |
| 16:56.41 | Chestal | blast007: wow, did I really write that !a & b, embarassing :-) |
| 16:56.53 | Chestal | blast007: what's with the cast to short in your new funfction? |
| 16:57.06 | blast007 | I just copied what the client does to check |
| 16:57.31 | blast007 | dunno if the short casting is necessary, or even correct, since the gameOptions is an int |
| 16:58.10 | Chestal | hmm, yes, seems a bit strange |
| 16:58.30 | Chestal | would also be nicer if it was an unsigned |
| 17:01.13 | Chestal | btw., regarding my client-side changes to handicap code (-solo bots didn't get handicap before), I am a bit confused about the player objects |
| 17:01.47 | Chestal | if I am not mistaken, there are two objects representing the bots, one derived from LocalPlayer and one from RemotePlayer |
| 17:02.28 | Chestal | not all attributes of both objects are always updated (e.g. msgscore only operates on remoteplayer object) |
| 17:02.52 | Chestal | the same is true for handicp, which does now only update the local player, not the morete player (was the other way around before) |
| 17:03.57 | Chestal | it all seems a bit messy |
| 17:15.07 | blast007 | one goal is to finish-server side players so that they can replace the client-side bots |
| 17:15.18 | blast007 | then we can purge some of the code from the client |
| 17:15.40 | blast007 | but there's a good bit of work that still need to be done to accomplish that |
| 17:15.55 | blast007 | server-side shot state, for one |
| 17:16.13 | blast007 | and having a client logic library would also help |
| 17:16.29 | blast007 | (one that the client and server both shared) |
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