| 00:14.50 | khonkhortisan | Okay, now I'm confused. bzfs +f PZ gives no flag, bzfs +f PZ -t gives a flag. |
| 00:17.43 | JeffM | try a map with teleporters insead of a generated world |
| 00:21.02 | khonkhortisan | There we go. A nearly-empty .bzw world will allow PZ flags, while a generated world will not. |
| 00:21.46 | JeffM | yeah with a generated world it knows if it will have porters with a map file we'd have to scan the world after it was compiled |
| 00:22.10 | JeffM | map file loading was actualy added after PZ and when the game had been around a while |
| 00:22.26 | khonkhortisan | So no PZ without teleporters is already the intended behavior. |
| 00:22.43 | JeffM | yes the bug is that we don't do that behavor for loaded map files |
| 00:22.53 | JeffM | so it's a bug not an enhancment :) |
| 00:23.14 | JeffM | good job on checking all the cases |
| 00:24.15 | JeffM | yay... my code can add 2 numbers! |
| 00:29.08 | khonkhortisan | uh-oh. There's already a -w option! |
| 00:29.24 | khonkhortisan | My mistake |
| 00:30.45 | JeffM | -WingzAllTheTimeDudz |
| 00:32.55 | khonkhortisan | My dishwasher is beeping like a heart monitor and making me nernous |
| 00:32.57 | khonkhortisan | *nervous |
| 00:33.25 | JeffM | your sheilds are down Master Cheif, Hide! |
| 00:34.08 | khonkhortisan | halo? |
| 00:34.37 | JeffM | indeed |
| 00:37.21 | khonkhortisan | if (!options.useTeleporters && (options.worldFile == "")) { forbidden.insert(Flags::PhantomZone); } |
| 00:37.44 | JeffM | for the wings patch, it's highly likely that you'll be the one commiting it when the time comes, you are well on your way there. |
| 00:38.06 | JeffM | yeah they do that because they don't know what's in the world file |
| 00:38.13 | JeffM | has the world been read at that point? |
| 00:41.08 | khonkhortisan | I don't think so. That's in the finalizeParsing function in CmdLineOptions.cxx |
| 00:41.23 | JeffM | then we'd have to remove any PZ flags after that |
| 00:44.05 | JeffM | after the world is defined you can check |
| 00:44.06 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.13 | JeffM | if that is true then PZ is ok |
| 00:48.36 | khonkhortisan | heh. The parser runs itself when it parses the name of a world to parse from. |
| 00:49.09 | JeffM | whatever works so you can query the read map |
| 00:49.21 | JeffM | actualy that's not good enough |
| 00:49.24 | JeffM | the API may define a world |
| 00:49.42 | JeffM | so checking for an empy world string isn't enough |
| 00:50.11 | khonkhortisan | like with a plugin? |
| 00:50.15 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:50.22 | khonkhortisan | yuck |
| 00:50.31 | JeffM | a plug-in can create or modify a map before it's finailzed |
| 00:50.39 | JeffM | so the flag check really should go after that |
| 00:51.56 | blast007 | JeffM: as mentioned, stealth still has a purpose on maps with no radar. prevents GM lock, identification with right click or i, and hunting. |
| 00:52.14 | JeffM | yeah I saw that |
| 00:52.19 | JeffM | well they mentioned that |
| 00:52.22 | khonkhortisan | I didn't think of hunting |
| 00:52.23 | JeffM | so I understand that aspect now |
| 00:52.46 | JeffM | the only thing that I think we may want to turn off on no radar is the shot that dosn't show on radar |
| 00:53.37 | blast007 | except that the radar can be disabled/enabled mid-game by altering _radarRange |
| 00:53.45 | khonkhortisan | Without radar, CS is deadly, IB is useless |
| 00:53.46 | blast007 | I don't think flag spawning decisions should be based on that |
| 00:54.01 | JeffM | yeah if it's runtime then that's out |
| 00:54.11 | JeffM | fair enough |
| 00:54.11 | blast007 | disabling PZ makes sense since it is based on map generation |
| 00:54.15 | JeffM | that's the point of discussion |
| 00:58.25 | khonkhortisan | It should be only about a two-line change, the hard part is finding the place to put the lines. |
| 01:09.34 | khonkhortisan | The only thing I see in the bzfsAPI is whether the player teleported recently. |
| 01:09.52 | khonkhortisan | and if they are zoned |
| 01:10.14 | JeffM | there is an event to define the world |
| 01:11.28 | khonkhortisan | :( case sensitive search |
| 01:12.01 | khonkhortisan | mistake? "if (!world || world->isFinisihed() || !pos || !scale)" |
| 01:14.50 | khonkhortisan | will be away during the weekend, feel free to patch it yourselves |
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| 18:08.29 | JeffM | ok, time to test the stupidest plugin evar :) |
| 18:16.50 | Notify | 03BZFlag:JeffM2501 * 22608 (trunk/bzflag/plugins/SAMPLE_PLUGIN/SAMPLE_PLUGIN.cpp trunk/bzflag/plugins/SAMPLE_PLUGIN/SAMPLE_PLUGIN.vcxproj): cleanup the sample plug-in to be more correct and work with the new windows sln location |
| 18:18.50 | Notify | 03BZFlag:JeffM2501 * 22609 (trunk/bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/GameKeeper.cxx and 5 others): Add api event and functions that let a plugin delay the call to AddPlayer so it can look things up from a remote source. If the API delays the add but does not process it within _maxPlayerAddDelay seconds then the player will be automatically added (default limit is 30 seconds) |
| 18:19.02 | JeffM | that should do what you were saying we can't do blast007 ;) |
| 18:19.09 | JeffM | even if my wiki plugin dosn't work :/ |
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| 19:20.46 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22610 trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ListServerConnection.cxx: Reuse the existing playerData variable rather than shadow it with another. |
| 19:22.21 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22611 (svn:ignore + .deps and 14 others): Tell Subversion to ignore generated files in the new superUser plugin directory.Property Changed:----------------trunk/bzflag/plugins/superUser/ |
| 19:24.49 | jeffm | BulletCatcher, the MSVC dir may need that property too |
| 19:25.30 | BulletCatcher | You'll have to provide a list of the files, as they aren't generated on Linux. ;-) |
| 19:25.46 | jeffm | k |
| 19:27.17 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22612 trunk/bzflag/plugins/Makefile.am: Include the webStats plugin in distributions. |
| 19:28.22 | BulletCatcher | Although the webReport and webStats plugins are included in tarballs, they are not automatically built on Linux. |
| 19:28.23 | BulletCatcher | Are we ready to start building them? |
| 19:28.48 | jeffm | not yet, we have to decide how to handle the templates on a linux "install" |
| 19:35.14 | BulletCatcher | The best idea I have for that is to put them under someplace like /usr/local/share/bzflag/templates/<pluginname>/ (as blast007 suggested) and then add those directories to the relevant search paths in such a way that they will be searched *after* the directory specified on the plugin command line. |
| 19:36.32 | BulletCatcher | That way the distributed template files will serve as defaults that are easily overridden by the server operator. |
| 19:37.10 | jeffm | ok, we have a search path system, sounds like it'll just need some defaults for each of the OSs |
| 19:37.43 | jeffm | needs to find a windows 8 start menu replacement |
| 19:43.58 | alezakos | jeffm: As far as the PZ issue discussed yesterday is concerned, |
| 19:43.59 | alezakos | checking for OBSTACLEMGR.getTeles().size() == 0 (src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx, line 1489) seems to work perfectly fine |
| 19:43.59 | alezakos | if you include "ObstacleMgr.h" |
| 19:44.16 | jeffm | cool |
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| 20:07.50 | BulletCatcher | Is there any hope for fixing the spelling of the bzhttp_Responce class declared in bzfsHTTPAPI.h ? |
| 20:07.53 | BulletCatcher | "response" is the correct spelling of the word. |
| 20:08.10 | BulletCatcher | If we really want to maintain backward compatability for the benefit of 3rd party plugins it could be done with #define bzhttp_Responce bzhttp_Response . |
| 20:08.43 | jeffm | it's only ever been used by first party |
| 20:08.46 | jeffm | so fix it now |
| 20:08.58 | jeffm | fast map was the ONLY thing that had it in 2.4.2 |
| 20:10.09 | jeffm | it didn't actually work for any other use till after 2.4.2 |
| 20:11.38 | BulletCatcher | ok, I'll fix it in a little while. Only 6 files are affected. |
| 20:11.47 | jeffm | thanks |
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| 20:26.07 | Notify | 03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22613 (trunk/bzflag/include/bzfsHTTPAPI.h trunk/bzflag/plugins/fastmap/fastmap.cpp and 4 others): spelling: responce -> response (includes HTTPAPI class name changes) |
| 20:35.00 | alezakos | Uh oh |
| 20:35.01 | alezakos | Someone left a bz_debugMessage(4,"SAMPLE_PLUGIN plugin loaded") on superUser.cpp |
| 20:45.53 | jeffm | so change it |
| 20:46.52 | alezakos | doesn't have commit rights |
| 20:47.32 | jeffm | submit a patch, the more you submit the closer you get to commit :) |
| 20:47.40 | jeffm | you are very close |
| 20:48.11 | alezakos | One-line patch? Okay then... |
| 20:48.25 | jeffm | why not? |
| 20:48.42 | jeffm | for some projects every commit is a patch |
| 20:48.53 | alezakos | sounds weird |
| 20:49.10 | jeffm | it is, I'm not a fan of those kind of projects |
| 20:49.55 | jeffm | sometime next week I'm going to see if I can get you guys commit |
| 20:50.17 | jeffm | kinda waiting to see what way tim ends up going |
| 20:50.27 | jeffm | but I don't want to wait too long |
| 20:53.04 | alezakos | Oh, well, uhm, thanks anyways |
| 20:53.27 | jeffm | what is your SF name again? |
| 20:53.42 | alezakos | kongr45gpen |
| 20:55.27 | jeffm | you have commit, read the devinfo and don't break anything ;) |
| 20:55.44 | alezakos | Ah, thanks so much! |
| 20:55.52 | jeffm | kep up the good work |
| 20:56.20 | alezakos | :) |
| 20:56.43 | jeffm | man the member admin interface still sucks |
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| 21:07.27 | alezakos | Chesval Cup is going to start in a bit, on ducati.bzflag.net:5158 |
| 21:10.52 | Detrimental | huh |
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| 21:13.59 | Detrimental | i need added to spawn if any ducati league admins are here |
| 21:14.01 | Detrimental | viper |
| 21:18.04 | I_Died_Once | detrimental, thats a tournament, i believe you have to be invited to be allowed to apwn on those servers |
| 21:19.13 | alezakos | The problem is that, as far as I'm aware of, on ducati league servers you need SPAWN to talk :/ |
| 21:20.17 | blast007 | that's how it is on most leagues |
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| 21:27.23 | alpha1 | hi can anybody help me with Chesval talk issue? |
| 21:29.02 | alezakos | alpha1: You need to register on league.bzflag.net or something like that and ask to participate on the spawnlist |
| 21:29.15 | alezakos | Ingame, you can contact admins by using your Z button |
| 21:29.51 | I_Died_Once | you're a little late asking to join mid game during a tournament |
| 21:30.47 | alpha1 | i dont want to join game, just to can talk :) |
| 21:30.56 | alpha1 | let me see... |
| 21:32.13 | alpha1 | ok, but the z option is it permitted in middle of game? who is the admin there now? |
| 21:32.43 | alezakos | tox,brad,orbit,bullet catcher,frank the tank,red-der,kierra,osta,jim,zelgadis... |
| 21:33.03 | alpha1 | oh, ok , but it wont disturb players maybe now? |
| 21:33.53 | alezakos | dunno |
| 21:34.04 | alpha1 | or its better to wait 8 min for finalize match? |
| 21:34.22 | alpha1 | k thanx anyway :) i will wait fo the finish |
| 21:35.11 | alpha1 | coz i readed something simlar before at chat :P.... |
| 21:36.01 | alezakos | did you see what kierra said? |
| 21:37.29 | alpha1 | in game? let me see.. |
| 21:38.02 | alpha1 | i will try it |
| 21:38.03 | alezakos | he told you to register on league.bzflag.net |
| 21:39.04 | alpha1 | yes i registered at 21 hs aprox , and i ask for be add to spawn list |
| 21:39.37 | alpha1 | but viper did it after me and it seems that he talked with Jess and he could give hime the right |
| 21:40.04 | alezakos | you've been unmuted |
| 21:40.14 | alpha1 | i found he here or bzflag-chat irc but i didnt find him :( |
| 21:40.22 | alpha1 | .i did find him* |
| 21:40.26 | alpha1 | didn* |
| 21:40.36 | kierra | yes |
| 21:40.48 | alpha1 | oh hi :) |
| 21:40.49 | kierra | she* |
| 21:41.16 | alpha1 | viper girl? |
| 21:43.49 | alpha1 | thx all solutioned :D |
| 21:44.12 | alpha1 | but who are girl Joss or viper? |
| 21:44.20 | alpha1 | :P |
| 21:44.54 | alpha1 | is* |
| 21:53.17 | Detrimental | i was asking to be added so i could speak not to be aloud to jump into a preplanned event and play. |
| 21:55.45 | kierra | kierra is female.. |
| 21:56.05 | Detrimental | i am a male |
| 22:00.59 | blast007 | I'm a cybernetic organism. Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton. |
| 22:01.05 | blast007 | GET TO DA CHOPPA! |
| 22:09.01 | alpha1 | lol |
| 22:09.50 | alpha1 | I'm just a prototipe version of a useless program :D |
| 22:10.14 | blast007 | beta version of hello world |
| 22:10.16 | blast007 | Hello Wor |
| 22:12.05 | alpha1 | haha |
| 22:12.13 | alpha1 | nnah |
| 22:12.24 | alpha1 | hello world is more useful than me :P |
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| 22:38.34 | BulletCatcher | ~alezakos++ |
| 22:40.04 | alezakos | thanks :) |
| 22:40.22 | alezakos | BTW, someone broke mottoes |
| 22:41.38 | BulletCatcher | It was just on the US Chesval server that mottos didn't work. Not sure why. |
| 22:41.59 | alezakos | Tried compiling my own server, they still don't work :/ |
| 22:43.01 | BulletCatcher | Ah. Didn't realize that it was a trunk problem. |
| 22:43.54 | alezakos | Could've been that addPlayer api event that was added |
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| 22:46.30 | alezakos | JeffM: Any ideas why motoes don't work? |
| 22:46.59 | JeffM | I probalby broke them |
| 22:47.52 | JeffM | what server has bad mottoes? |
| 22:49.00 | alezakos | On chesval cup usa (bzbattleground.com:5050) mottoes didn't show up at all, neither at the server I compiled using trunk |
| 22:49.16 | JeffM | the server has the option of remving them |
| 22:49.20 | JeffM | removing them |
| 22:49.34 | JeffM | so are you sure it's not intentional on the server's side? |
| 22:50.03 | alezakos | pretty sure |
| 22:50.15 | JeffM | do they work on other servers? |
| 22:50.32 | alezakos | yeah, but they weren't compiled that recently |
| 22:50.56 | JeffM | try a local server |
| 22:51.12 | alezakos | tried latest trunk, motoes won't work |
| 22:51.20 | JeffM | k |
| 22:51.21 | JeffM | fix it |
| 22:51.28 | alezakos | will try to |
| 22:51.56 | JeffM | the only change around there was the event message |
| 22:52.09 | JeffM | I don't have a compiler yet so I can't look |
| 22:52.19 | JeffM | but that change was days ago |
| 22:55.39 | blast007 | duplicated here, let me check |
| 22:55.54 | JeffM | check the v2 event, make sure it's derived from the V1 correctly as public |
| 22:56.10 | JeffM | and that I actualy set the motto |
| 22:56.26 | JeffM | one compiler is almost done installing here |
| 22:56.30 | blast007 | I'm not using any plugins that set it, so I'd think it shouldn't be the event |
| 22:56.47 | JeffM | the event is built even if nobody calls it and the result of the event message is used to set it |
| 22:56.59 | JeffM | so the use of a plugin dosn't matter |
| 22:57.13 | JeffM | if the event isn't built right it'll affect the use of the motto |
| 22:57.23 | alezakos | I can confirm it's that specific revision, r22600 |
| 22:57.35 | JeffM | windows... so white!!!! |
| 22:58.46 | JeffM | yeah I see the problem |
| 22:58.55 | JeffM | the V2 event dosn't call the V1 constructor |
| 22:59.11 | JeffM | oh no it does |
| 22:59.14 | JeffM | wtf! |
| 22:59.30 | JeffM | ahh shadow |
| 23:00.18 | JeffM | there ya go |
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| 23:00.53 | JeffM | I did tell const I had no way to test that change :) |
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| 23:11.00 | JeffM | ewww it's intalling IIS |
| 23:13.10 | alezakos | ~JeffM++ |
| 23:13.23 | JeffM | no, IIS does NOT get a ++ |
| 23:13.48 | alezakos | ~IIS-- |
| 23:20.27 | blast007 | ew |
| 23:21.43 | JeffM | maybe thats what makes this visual studio "ultimate" |
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