| 00:00.12 | JeffM | all of our problems stem from us not using GIT for version control |
| 00:00.18 | JeffM | it's super obvious now |
| 00:00.33 | I_Died_Once | how big of a deal would it be to switch over to git then? |
| 00:00.46 | JeffM | how many unicorn horns do you have? |
| 00:00.55 | I_Died_Once | Eleventeen |
| 00:01.01 | JeffM | too many |
| 00:01.05 | JeffM | they are contaminated |
| 00:01.36 | I_Died_Once | and Eleventy in the other pocket |
| 00:01.41 | JeffM | even worse |
| 00:01.45 | JeffM | you should see a doctor |
| 00:01.52 | JeffM | those can cause sterility issues |
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| 01:05.55 | sussudio | JeffM: freeze/loop... |
| 01:06.14 | sussudio | smashes head on desk |
| 01:13.42 | blast007 | sussudio: with the new client he gave you? if so, when and where did it happen? |
| 01:19.23 | sussudio | blast007: mofo... |
| 01:19.35 | sussudio | 15 minutes ago. |
| 01:25.02 | blast007 | well, they're running the server pretty much stock now.. they only have one plugin left |
| 01:25.30 | JeffM | I can't help you with out knowing where it dies |
| 01:25.37 | JeffM | you'd have to install VC and build debug |
| 01:27.15 | I_Died_Once | yeah the only plugin we have on now is the one that makes the team flags turn into geno flags, as well as prevents self capping and give the CTF bonus' |
| 01:27.49 | I_Died_Once | which doesn't affect shots I don't think |
| 01:27.57 | JeffM | if shots are his problem |
| 01:28.01 | blast007 | sussudio: what version of the nVidia driver do you have installed right now? |
| 01:29.41 | JeffM | I'd be curious to know what is frame rate is as well |
| 01:30.00 | JeffM | he says it happens on many machines, if they are all older and low FPS there may be some issues |
| 01:30.23 | sussudio | 60fps. i think it's locked. |
| 01:30.29 | JeffM | ok good |
| 01:30.58 | I_Died_Once | check for virus' |
| 01:31.03 | I_Died_Once | upgrade to linux :) |
| 01:31.09 | sussudio | ... |
| 01:31.32 | I_Died_Once | don't download so much pr0n |
| 01:31.46 | sussudio | are you a bot |
| 01:31.55 | JeffM | no just a hick |
| 01:32.13 | I_Died_Once | I'm a city person |
| 01:32.20 | I_Died_Once | granted, a southern city guy |
| 01:32.35 | JeffM | hicks come from all over the world, and any country ;) |
| 01:32.45 | I_Died_Once | nice backpedal |
| 01:33.00 | JeffM | it's a state of mind ;) |
| 01:35.35 | JeffM | but really I know of no other way to figure out what is up with out running a debuger on a system with the problem |
| 01:35.53 | JeffM | when it locks, you can switch to the debuger and hit "break all" and see the callstack |
| 02:27.34 | blast007 | if only there was a 'fix all' button ;) |
| 02:28.17 | JeffM | a guy at work in tech support thought a debuger fixed all bugs |
| 02:28.24 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 05:11.05 | allejo | wait a debugger doesn't fix bugs? :o |
| 05:11.49 | JeffM | maybe that's why students don't use them |
| 05:13.47 | allejo | :P |
| 05:14.22 | JeffM | "oh no, I"m much smarter then a silly compiler, I'll just use a lot of printf" |
| 05:18.02 | allejo | printf is always the way to go. hehe i can't keep this up |
| 05:29.28 | JeffM | I fear my CS classes for mentalities like that |
| 05:30.04 | allejo | it can't be that bad, can it? |
| 05:30.12 | JeffM | yep |
| 05:30.17 | blast007 | though that's generally how I debug PHP... :P |
| 05:30.41 | JeffM | sure, because it's a PITA to get a decent debuger for it |
| 05:30.57 | JeffM | allejo, I was told not to show up to the last 2 sessions of my last CSC class |
| 05:32.02 | allejo | blast, there's no other real way to debug php |
| 05:32.06 | JeffM | the "super hard" project he had me do instead was to sort a 2d array |
| 05:32.16 | blast007 | allejo: oh there is. just not by default. |
| 05:32.24 | blast007 | there's the Xdebug extension, for instance |
| 05:32.25 | JeffM | yeah php debugers exist |
| 05:32.43 | JeffM | yeah they have to work with web servers so it's more complex then most programing languages |
| 05:32.47 | allejo | lol jeff, that sounds really complex. i wonder how my cs class will be next semester |
| 05:33.01 | JeffM | I'll find out, they start monday |
| 05:33.06 | JeffM | 11 week quarters |
| 05:33.26 | allejo | I should probably look into php debuger, haven't found anything myself |
| 05:33.57 | blast007 | http://www.xdebug.org/ |
| 05:34.13 | blast007 | http://www.php-debugger.com/dbg/ |
| 05:34.16 | blast007 | tada :P |
| 05:34.46 | allejo | ohh thanks blast |
| 05:34.54 | blast007 | dunno if xdebug has breakpoints |
| 05:34.56 | JeffM | that google thing is pretty good |
| 05:35.05 | blast007 | and DBG limits some features to their paid version |
| 05:35.05 | JeffM | I wonder if it'll catch on |
| 05:35.26 | blast007 | and I'm sure there's more out there |
| 05:36.09 | blast007 | http://php.net/manual/en/debugger-about.php |
| 05:36.11 | allejo | jeff, oh there's a google? i've been using bing that's probably why |
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| 05:36.44 | JeffM | nope it shows up in bing too |
| 05:37.31 | blast007 | Zend Studio is on sale for $100 until the end of monday, and it offers a debugger |
| 05:38.32 | blast007 | or $30 if you're one of the first 50 people to order it on cyber monday :) |
| 05:43.12 | allejo | is looking into the debuggers |
| 05:43.17 | allejo | thanks for the links |
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