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| 15:28.17 | Zac_ | how do i launch a private server for a maptest? |
| 15:28.22 | Zac_ | im in win7 |
| 15:28.24 | Zac_ | on* |
| 15:30.04 | blast007 | same way you do on every other operating system |
| 15:30.07 | blast007 | with bzfs |
| 15:30.53 | blast007 | some of the info here will apply: http://wiki.bzflag.org/CreatingAServer |
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| 15:32.04 | blast007 | plus we include bzfs HTML manual pages with the windows install |
| 15:32.37 | Zac_ | wishes |
| 15:32.50 | Zac_ | wishes he wasnt so bad at computers |
| 15:33.08 | blast007 | this is more about being bad at reading |
| 15:33.37 | Zac_ | lol |
| 15:33.39 | Zac_ | yeah |
| 15:36.10 | blast007 | simplest form is: bzfs.exe -world c:\maps\YourWorld.bzw (after changing to the bzflag directory, with something like "cd c:\program files\bzflag 2.4.2") |
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| 15:36.31 | blast007 | then just join 127.0.0.1 on port 5154 |
| 15:37.02 | blast007 | could even just specify the full path to bzfs |
| 15:37.16 | blast007 | c:\program files\bzflag 2.4.2\bzfs.exe -world c:\maps\YourWorld.bzw |
| 15:42.02 | Zac_ | ah |
| 15:42.04 | Zac_ | thanks |
| 15:45.57 | Zac_ | i'll need to create a map folder to ut in my program files? |
| 15:46.26 | Zac_ | i dont see an existing one |
| 15:51.04 | blast007 | the map can be anywhere |
| 15:51.08 | blast007 | I was just giving an example |
| 15:51.25 | blast007 | additionally, nowhere in my example did I have the map in program files |
| 15:52.03 | Zac_ | lol |
| 15:52.08 | Zac_ | blast must be facepalming |
| 15:52.21 | Zac_ | i figured that out a minute after i said it |
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| 22:41.40 | michealPW | Sweet, you guys are on freenode :) |
| 22:42.09 | michealPW | Righto, so, I'm looking for advice on how to get bots on a particular team? |
| 22:43.26 | michealPW | My 3 and 6 year old sons play bzflag but they're beginners so I changed the link to bzflag to bzflag -solo 2 which gets them 2 bots, but sometimes both bots are on the opposing team, which is too hard for them. If I could get 1 bot on their team vs 1 bot (2v1) it would be ideal for them. |
| 22:52.57 | brlcad | michealPW: folks are on 24/7, but not always paying attention 24/7 ;) |
| 22:53.10 | michealPW | hehe k |
| 22:56.38 | michealPW | I'm going to try playing around with it when they go to bed tonight, see if I can't figure something out for them. |
| 22:56.44 | brlcad | michealPW: first off, make sure bzfs isn't running with -autoTeam enabled |
| 22:57.07 | brlcad | you can specify the -team option to join a specific team |
| 22:57.55 | brlcad | if you run "-team automatic" and join the bots first, I believe it'll put them on different teams, then have your sons join |
| 22:58.16 | michealPW | Ah, righto. Let me check for that, I got the sample bzfs config file and just basically added a password for admin, changed it to 127.0.1.1 and used the -g option 'cause I made a shell script that starts bzfs with the -conf option as a background process, then delays a couple seconds and launches bzflag with -solo 2 |
| 22:58.17 | brlcad | or just manually specify their team and start two -solo bzflags |
| 22:58.45 | brlcad | the -team option is client, like -solo |
| 22:58.58 | brlcad | -autoTeam is server |
| 22:59.01 | michealPW | k, so I manually specify their team ( One likes Blue the other likes Purples :| ) |
| 22:59.14 | michealPW | righto |
| 22:59.58 | brlcad | alternatively, you could *add* -autoTeam to server and as long as the bots connect first or last, it should keep teams balanced |
| 23:00.19 | brlcad | but that will require some restraint |
| 23:00.30 | brlcad | which might be a bit hard for a 3yo to understand |
| 23:00.56 | michealPW | Ah found and commented out -autoTeam from the bzfs config |
| 23:01.13 | brlcad | sure-fire way is start two bzflag -solo -team blue/purple |
| 23:01.51 | michealPW | Oh, wait I thought solo was just an integer value hehe I just pass it 2 like -solo 2 |
| 23:02.00 | brlcad | ah, good -- enabled, that will override their requested -team option |
| 23:02.10 | michealPW | If I pass -team purple after -solo 2 it will put both on team purple? |
| 23:02.17 | brlcad | it is, 1char typo |
| 23:02.23 | michealPW | That would be ideal, really |
| 23:02.24 | brlcad | bzflag -solo 2 -team blue |
| 23:02.43 | michealPW | Ah sweet, thx for your time mate :) |
| 23:02.53 | brlcad | rather, bzflag -solo 1 -team blue ; bzflag -solo 1 -team purple |
| 23:03.10 | michealPW | Ah would that launch 2 seperate bzflag process' though? |
| 23:03.12 | brlcad | but again, bzflag -solo 2 -team automatic might work |
| 23:04.02 | brlcad | sure, but two procs aren't going to be a problem |
| 23:04.36 | brlcad | minimize them and/or turn their quality way down and it'll just be a little more network traffic |
| 23:04.51 | brlcad | not going to notice |
| 23:05.17 | michealPW | Ah perfect they're eating dinner haha I'm going to try your suggestions right now |
| 23:05.33 | michealPW | I built them their own Fedora 17 system for gaming heehee :) |
| 23:05.35 | brlcad | cheers |
| 23:07.11 | michealPW | I guess you wouldn't remember if the teams are capitalized like "Purple" or "purple" huh? hehe |
| 23:07.18 | michealPW | guess trial/error meh |
| 23:09.02 | michealPW | fiddle sticks! bzflag -solo 2 -team purple put him on purple team vs 2 bots on team red :( |
| 23:09.32 | michealPW | Maybe I'll try that bzflag -solo 1 -team blue; bzflag -solo 1 -team purple |
| 23:11.46 | michealPW | Actually, I can pastebin the two files |
| 23:11.56 | michealPW | Maybe that will help LOL |
| 23:13.43 | blast007 | solo robots ignore the specified team. they always join with "automatic" as the team. |
| 23:14.53 | michealPW | Seems to be that way :( |
| 23:15.16 | michealPW | Also pastebin was a dumb idea, their machine isn't connected to the internet (rofl) |
| 23:15.20 | blast007 | you have several options though |
| 23:16.51 | blast007 | you could limit it so that it can only be a 2vs1 at most like so: -mp 0,1,2,0,0,10 (that would be one red tank and 2 green tanks at most, and 10 observers) |
| 23:17.39 | blast007 | then just have your son(s) join first on the larger team, and then join two solo bots with -solo 2 |
| 23:17.46 | blast007 | or run the two bots from the same client (again, choosing to join the larger team) |
| 23:17.47 | michealPW | Hrmm, thx mate! |
| 23:18.59 | blast007 | another option would be writing a plugin to alter the autoTeam behaviour, but that would require some knowledge of C++ and a bit more effort than the first option |
| 23:21.40 | blast007 | oh, additionally, there is another type of bot called autopilot (nicknamed Roger) that turns a normal player into a bot. this is enabled by pressing the '9' key while joined to a game. This bot behaves a lot differently than the -solo bots. It jumps to avoid shots, and sometimes will even jump over obstacles to get to enemies. |
| 23:21.42 | michealPW | I'm still learning so I'm setting that option now hehe |
| 23:22.14 | michealPW | haha yea they found that button. Seems to be their best chance when they were online (Letting Roger drive for them haha) |
| 23:22.20 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:22.39 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:23.29 | brlcad | I very vaguely now remember solo bots being forced to automatic being intentional to limit client abuse |
| 23:24.26 | michealPW | Do you remember what the teams were for options like -mp ? |
| 23:24.50 | michealPW | Rogue|Red|Green|?|?|Observer |
| 23:24.52 | michealPW | That right? |
| 23:25.06 | brlcad | michealPW: a variant that I mentioned, start up two clients (not -solo), join to desired color, turn on roger (9), and minimize |
| 23:25.26 | brlcad | ideally on a different machine |
| 23:25.45 | brlcad | man bzfs |
| 23:26.03 | michealPW | k thx |
| 23:26.07 | brlcad | http://linux.die.net/man/6/bzfs |
| 23:27.04 | michealPW | got it, thx a lot for your time guys |
| 23:30.50 | michealPW | Awrsome, setting -mp 0,1,0,2,0,10 for bzfs and bflag -solo 2 did it :) |
| 23:39.23 | blast007 | ~mp |
| 23:39.23 | ibot | methinks mp is Northern Mariana Islands |
| 23:39.27 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:39.37 | blast007 | ~bzmp |
| 23:39.37 | ibot | rogue,red,green,blue,purple,observer |