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| 15:24.55 | brad | blast, ./newplug.sh doesn't add Makefile now :X |
| 15:25.21 | blast007 | is that important? it works fine on Windows without that. ;) |
| 15:25.23 | blast007 | ducks |
| 15:25.52 | blast007 | that file shouldn't be copied anyway |
| 15:25.58 | blast007 | it copies Makefile.am |
| 15:26.06 | blast007 | when you run autogen.sh, it will make Makefile.in |
| 15:26.12 | blast007 | when you run configure, it will make Makefile |
| 15:29.44 | blast007 | brad: did you skip running autogen/configure? |
| 15:31.07 | brad | you're supposed to do that after every plug-in? xD |
| 15:31.26 | blast007 | yeah.. it kinda tells you that |
| 15:31.32 | brad | ahh..reading |
| 15:31.34 | blast007 | you have to at least do it after you add the last one |
| 15:31.42 | blast007 | cuz that's what makes all the build files |
| 15:32.33 | brad | it doesn't actually mention that in the newplug.sh output :P |
| 15:33.34 | I_Died_Once | yeah it would be awesome if the new_plug.sh was made so you didn't have to autogen and edit and add lines to those two or three files |
| 15:34.36 | blast007 | I_Died_Once: it only makes you add one line to a single file right now |
| 15:34.42 | blast007 | brad: patches welcome ;) |
| 15:34.53 | blast007 | eh, and actually it DOES |
| 15:34.58 | I_Died_Once | well thats better than before |
| 15:34.59 | blast007 | echo "You then need to rerun autogen.sh and configure just once to enable your" |
| 15:34.59 | blast007 | echo "new plugin with the build system." |
| 15:35.29 | blast007 | brad: are you using a black font on a black background? ;) |
| 15:35.40 | brad | oh I only read the *first* paragraph |
| 15:35.43 | brad | oh man :P |
| 15:35.50 | blast007 | ~lart brad |
| 15:35.50 | ibot | resizes brad's terminal to 40x24 |
| 15:35.51 | brad | ~lart self |
| 15:35.51 | ibot | tries to shut self up |
| 15:37.35 | blast007 | to make it update configure.ac, it'd be something similar to what we do for Makefile.am |
| 15:37.44 | blast007 | so if someone wants to try their hand at that, feel free |
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| 17:41.26 | Nitroxis | Is there a way to check wether a specific point in a map is a valid spawn point? Like checking if the point is in an obstacle? |
| 17:41.57 | blast007 | Nitroxis: depends from where you're trying to do it. Are you talking about from a plugin? |
| 17:42.03 | Nitroxis | Yes |
| 17:42.30 | Nitroxis | I want to spawn players close to a certain movable point |
| 17:42.47 | blast007 | I do not think you can, then |
| 17:42.47 | Nitroxis | But it might be surrounded by buildings |
| 17:43.01 | Nitroxis | Hm. :/ |
| 17:43.20 | blast007 | You would probably have to write a new spawn algorithm into bzfs itself |
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| 17:45.05 | blast007 | Nitroxis: specifically, look at RandomSpawnPolicy.cxx and SpawnPolicy.cxx |
| 17:45.30 | blast007 | RandomSpawnPolicy isn't used right now as we didn't hook in the ability to switch the spawn policy at start, it seems |
| 17:46.14 | blast007 | SpawnPosition.cxx controls which spawn policy is used |
| 17:46.37 | blast007 | so you could add in a new spawn policy and then tell SpawnPosition.cxx to use that one instead |
| 17:47.28 | Nitroxis | Hm I see |
| 17:49.19 | blast007 | will spawn zones in a map file not do what you need? |
| 17:52.10 | Nitroxis | Not really |
| 17:52.36 | Nitroxis | I want players to spawn close (~100-200 units) to a flag |
| 17:52.46 | Nitroxis | The flag can be moved though |
| 17:53.15 | Nitroxis | Also, is there a way to "force" a player to spawn on the teambase? |
| 17:53.31 | Nitroxis | As far as I see, there only is an option in the bz_killPlayer function |
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| 17:53.43 | Nitroxis | But it does not work if the player is already dead |
| 17:54.06 | Nitroxis | Thus the player spawns at a random locations |
| 17:55.32 | blast007 | probably not without modifying the API |
| 17:56.12 | Nitroxis | :'( |
| 17:56.53 | blast007 | that'd probably be rather easy to add yourself, though |
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| 17:58.12 | blast007 | there's a setRestartOnBase method in the GameKeeper::Player class |
| 17:58.41 | Nitroxis | hmm |
| 17:59.16 | Nitroxis | Wouldn't doing |
| 17:59.16 | Nitroxis | victim->setRestartOnBase(respawnOnBase); |
| 17:59.16 | Nitroxis | if (!victim->isAlive()) return; |
| 17:59.16 | Nitroxis | instead of |
| 17:59.16 | Nitroxis | if (!victim->isAlive()) return; |
| 17:59.18 | Nitroxis | victim->setRestartOnBase(respawnOnBase); |
| 17:59.20 | Nitroxis | work? |
| 17:59.33 | Nitroxis | @ bzfs.cxx, line 2810 |
| 18:00.53 | blast007 | perhaps for your purpose, sure |
| 18:01.24 | blast007 | I'd have to think about the implications of such a change before I'd do it officially |
| 18:01.58 | blast007 | might be neat to have a bz_setRestartOnBase() API method, though. That way you could make them spawn on the base next time without having to kill them |
| 18:02.11 | Nitroxis | Yes indeed |
| 18:02.19 | I_Died_Once | more functionality is always good |
| 18:02.22 | Nitroxis | And it should not be hard to do either |
| 18:02.32 | I_Died_Once | thats what she said |
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| 18:10.11 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/bz_setRestartOnBase.txt (completely untested.. would belong in bzfsAPI.cxx, and a reference to it would have to be added in bzfsAPI.h as well) |
| 18:11.38 | Nitroxis | What does it need to be officially added? :P |
| 18:11.45 | Nitroxis | I could test it |
| 18:13.51 | blast007 | yeah, it'd need testing |
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| 18:14.58 | blast007 | and I'm thinking about some fringe cases as well. |
| 18:15.47 | blast007 | for instance, it'd be interesting to see if it works on a map with freeCtfSpawns to make a player's first spawn be on the base (as in, when they join, set the "spawn on base" bit) |
| 18:16.31 | blast007 | and then just the usual setting it while they're dead or alive |
| 18:17.40 | Nitroxis | By the way, it should be "playerID" not "playerindex" |
| 18:18.02 | blast007 | I'm betting it won't work right while the player is alive, as the value is probably always set when they die |
| 18:18.14 | blast007 | yeah, close enough ;) |
| 18:18.37 | Nitroxis | You did it right in the next line :D |
| 18:18.45 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:19.10 | Nitroxis | bzfsAPI.cxx: In function ‘bool bz_setRestartOnBase(int, bool)’: |
| 18:19.10 | Nitroxis | bzfsAPI.cxx:2254: error: ‘class GameKeeper::Player’ has no member named ‘setRestartOnBase’ |
| 18:19.12 | Nitroxis | :/ |
| 18:19.28 | Nitroxis | As far as I see, PlayerInfo does have this function |
| 18:19.58 | blast007 | ah, yeah, I did that wrong |
| 18:20.25 | Nitroxis | PlayerInfo is not included by bzfsAPI.cxx though |
| 18:20.40 | Nitroxis | I could add setRestartOnBase to GameKeeper::Player |
| 18:21.51 | blast007 | refresh that page and it might have a working function |
| 18:22.11 | Nitroxis | Aight |
| 18:22.37 | blast007 | you might need to include the PlayerInfo.h header |
| 18:23.18 | Nitroxis | I suppose it should be "if (!playerData)" |
| 18:23.23 | Nitroxis | As player is not defined there |
| 18:23.28 | blast007 | yeah, sorry |
| 18:24.52 | blast007 | though really, for your purpose, it's probably better to just hack in the previous change you mentioned |
| 18:25.12 | blast007 | this one is likely to be a bit more invasive and complicatead to get right |
| 18:26.08 | Nitroxis | Yeah well, I'll try this one now |
| 18:26.20 | Nitroxis | It should also be "PlayerInfo *player = &playerData->player;" |
| 18:26.21 | Nitroxis | ;) |
| 18:27.32 | blast007 | yeah, that ;) |
| 18:27.44 | blast007 | silly pointers... |
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| 18:31.52 | Nitroxis | bzfs: symbol lookup error: /home/bzfs/plugins/bzbomb.so: undefined symbol: _Z19bz_setRestartOnBaseib |
| 18:31.56 | Nitroxis | Wat? |
| 18:32.50 | Nitroxis | But it did compile |
| 18:33.10 | Nitroxis | I'm not very familiar with all this C++ stuff :S |
| 18:34.47 | blast007 | linker issue there |
| 18:35.12 | blast007 | are you using the bzfs you just built? |
| 18:35.32 | Nitroxis | Ah no, I forget to make install I guess |
| 18:35.57 | blast007 | you could do it from within the source directory as well |
| 18:36.13 | blast007 | src/bzfs/bzfs -loadplugin plugins/YourPlugin/.libs/YourPlugin.so |
| 18:36.43 | Nitroxis | Yes I know |
| 18:44.19 | Nitroxis | Good news: It does work :) |
| 18:44.29 | Nitroxis | Thanks for the help |
| 19:13.20 | Nitroxis | If anyone wants to see my little creation: wtwrp.de:5174 |
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| 23:29.15 | remote | hello |
| 23:29.23 | JeffM | hello |
| 23:29.31 | remote | are you a forum administrator? |
| 23:29.40 | JeffM | not anymore, why? |
| 23:29.48 | blast007 | remote: need something? |
| 23:29.56 | remote | because someone just erased my posts and disabled my username |
| 23:29.59 | remote | yes please |
| 23:30.04 | JeffM | doubtful |
| 23:30.08 | remote | no really |
| 23:30.12 | JeffM | unless the db is acting up |
| 23:30.20 | JeffM | users can't delete posts IIRC |
| 23:30.27 | blast007 | what's your username? |
| 23:30.33 | JeffM | or you gots banned |
| 23:30.52 | remote | I asked all admins to be catalysts and use their privileges wisely because I think there are serious issues with some admins |
| 23:30.55 | remote | keke jaakko |
| 23:31.05 | remote | the post I made was really correct |
| 23:31.06 | JeffM | yeah...... that makes sense then |
| 23:31.06 | blast007 | I deleted that one post, and that's all. |
| 23:31.09 | remote | I didn't even name anyone |
| 23:31.18 | JeffM | still not what the forums are for |
| 23:31.24 | remote | oh yeah? |
| 23:31.28 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:31.28 | remote | not for expressing anything? |
| 23:31.49 | blast007 | that's what your personal blog is for |
| 23:31.51 | blast007 | or twitter |
| 23:32.02 | remote | and you banned me? |
| 23:32.17 | blast007 | no |
| 23:32.21 | remote | why is it that it is even tolerated that admins kick people freely? |
| 23:32.22 | blast007 | another admin deactivated your account |
| 23:32.25 | JeffM | it's a forum run by the proejct for disscussion of the project, not how you feel some people are using the software. |
| 23:32.27 | remote | seriously |
| 23:32.32 | blast007 | I simply deleted your post and sent you a PM |
| 23:32.33 | JeffM | remote, because they own the computer you are playing on |
| 23:32.39 | JeffM | we can not tell them what to do |
| 23:32.58 | JeffM | can the people that make firefox tell facebook how to run a website? |
| 23:33.10 | remote | alright, so I can write a forum post asking them to PLEASE be adults and good admins |
| 23:33.12 | JeffM | is posting about it on the firefox forums the right thing? |
| 23:33.14 | remote | but that got me banned |
| 23:33.17 | JeffM | not really |
| 23:33.27 | JeffM | talk to the owners that you have a problem with |
| 23:33.30 | remote | I got kicked out of a game because my internet disconnected |
| 23:33.33 | JeffM | ok |
| 23:33.38 | JeffM | they can do WHATEVER they want |
| 23:33.43 | JeffM | you choose to connect to them |
| 23:33.46 | remote | alright alright |
| 23:33.49 | JeffM | they can ban you for being named steve |
| 23:34.03 | blast007 | remote: what does your internet failing have to do with admins? |
| 23:34.05 | remote | but isn't bzflag forums the property of the bzflag project? |
| 23:34.08 | remote | I'm banned there now |
| 23:34.19 | remote | blast007: they kicked me without saying anything |
| 23:34.21 | JeffM | techincaly blast owns them |
| 23:34.24 | JeffM | they don't have to |
| 23:34.33 | remote | then after they explained me and i told them "fuck you" |
| 23:34.34 | JeffM | what does the ownership of the forums have to do with ownership of game servers? |
| 23:34.41 | JeffM | please watch your language here. |
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| 23:34.47 | remote | uh |
| 23:34.57 | remote | I said what happened I didn't tell anyone fuck you here |
| 23:34.58 | JeffM | that was your warning |
| 23:35.03 | JeffM | ok, see ya |
| 23:35.04 | remote | sorry |
| 23:35.08 | spldart | to late |
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| 23:35.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*self@unaffiliated/remote] by blast007 |
| 23:35.47 | blast007 | I was considering reactivating the account, but not anymore |
| 23:35.50 | blast007 | idiot. |
| 23:35.58 | spldart | + |
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| 23:48.42 | JeffM | so... "they banned me after I cursed at them".... |
| 23:49.55 | kierra | its interesting to see his view |
| 23:50.04 | kierra | it was me who banned for a day |
| 23:50.32 | JeffM | you must be mean |
| 23:50.44 | kierra | no, i just dont tolerate fbombs |
| 23:50.56 | kierra | and he's pretty free with them |
| 23:51.03 | JeffM | yeah like I said, you are mean |
| 23:51.06 | JeffM | ;) |
| 23:51.11 | kierra | :) |
| 23:51.32 | JeffM | who are you to deny his constiutional right to the fbomb! |
| 23:51.38 | JeffM | 'merica f-yeah |
| 23:51.50 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:52.45 | kierra | i'm your equivalent on ducati....you guys banned him here for fbomb |
| 23:53.10 | JeffM | I did nothing |
| 23:53.24 | JeffM | except for that part with the deupty |
| 23:53.37 | JeffM | but I was really drunk and she was really pretty |
| 23:54.09 | kierra | you warnd, blast banned.....the dynamic duo :P |
| 23:54.15 | kierra | warned* |
| 23:55.23 | blast007 | and I figured that opping myself was a warning in itself :P |
| 23:55.46 | JeffM | I didn't think he was that bright, and I was right |
| 23:56.15 | spldart | I was wondering why blast opp'd... Derp! |
| 23:56.20 | spldart | ;) |