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| 11:33.22 | TutTankAhmon | hi all |
| 11:33.45 | TutTankAhmon | I have problems with my global authenticqtion ; if anyone may help |
| 11:34.30 | TutTankAhmon | I RTFM of course |
| 11:34.56 | TutTankAhmon | changed my forum's password |
| 11:37.52 | TutTankAhmon | on some servers it's ok, on other , not |
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| 12:28.53 | blast007 | TutTankAhmon: probably a caching proxy at your ISP |
| 12:30.26 | blast007 | http://wiki.bzflag.org/Common_Support_Issues#Global_Login_Not_Identifying |
| 12:36.21 | TutTankAhmon | I added port 81 yesterday , no change |
| 12:43.57 | blast007 | dunno then |
| 12:44.06 | blast007 | could you elaborate on "problems"? |
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| 12:59.14 | TutTankAhmon | some servers let me go in with "global login approved" , other says "rejected , must use global authentification" |
| 12:59.27 | TutTankAhmon | can tell you an example of each server now, i'm at work |
| 12:59.32 | TutTankAhmon | *can't |
| 13:00.00 | blast007 | it is a consistent problem with certain servers, or does it just happen at random? |
| 13:00.25 | blast007 | also, looks like CIA.vc is not coming back... their server got wiped, and they have no backups >.< |
| 13:10.47 | TutTankAhmon | no it seems consistant |
| 13:10.55 | blast007 | weird |
| 13:11.34 | TutTankAhmon | i did not play bzflag since 3 or 4 years, and used my old config.cfg on version 2.4.2 . it might be important |
| 13:13.29 | blast007 | I don't think anything in the config would break global auth |
| 13:14.34 | blast007 | are you using Windows? |
| 13:17.14 | TutTankAhmon | yes, sadly |
| 13:17.33 | blast007 | sadly? that's our best supported platform :P |
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| 13:36.43 | Constitution | blast007: http://www.apple.com/why-mac |
| 13:37.19 | blast007 | Constitution: you want me to switch from our best supported platfor to our poorest supported platform? |
| 13:37.24 | blast007 | platform* |
| 13:43.29 | Constitution | yep! |
| 13:51.34 | Constitution | btw doesn't sf have a commit hook we can use to report commits to IRC in lieu of cia.vc? |
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| 14:02.48 | TutTankAhmon | blast007: it's sad, but as Constitution stated, it could be worse :) |
| 14:03.26 | TutTankAhmon | oh btw strange detail : my previous password was not fitting anymore the password rules on the forum |
| 14:09.42 | blast007 | Constitution: doesn't seem like it, except for an email hook |
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| 16:32.40 | blast007 | JeffM: CIA.vc is no more. Their server got wiped due to a communication error with their host, and they apparently didn't have any backups.... |
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| 16:42.20 | JeffM | seriously... |
| 16:42.23 | JeffM | lame |
| 16:42.44 | JeffM | how are we going to see what projects Tim is activly working on that are not bzflag? |
| 16:42.46 | blast007 | I used to be a Vault Hunter like yourself, but then I took a bullet to the knee. |
| 16:43.33 | JeffM | finaly gets to play tonight |
| 16:43.44 | JeffM | my current spec is unplayable single player |
| 16:44.23 | blast007 | I need to find a weapon with corrosive damage |
| 16:44.54 | blast007 | I know I had one at one point, but I think I dropped it for another weapon.. :( |
| 16:44.58 | JeffM | those are handy |
| 16:45.15 | JeffM | I think I have an SMG and a pistol that do corosive |
| 16:45.30 | JeffM | I try to keep a fire/shock/corosive in my inventory at all times |
| 16:45.37 | blast007 | probably my only hope of saving roland |
| 16:45.49 | blast007 | my shock pistol didn't do crap |
| 16:45.57 | JeffM | yeah they don't have shields |
| 16:46.09 | blast007 | the transport thing does |
| 16:46.14 | JeffM | true |
| 16:46.17 | blast007 | but it barely touched those shields.. |
| 16:46.23 | JeffM | it also helps to have multiple people playing |
| 16:46.30 | blast007 | yeah, at least for that |
| 16:46.33 | JeffM | one person did shields, the others did the main body |
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| 16:46.45 | JeffM | I need to find a rocket launcher "for medicinal reasons" |
| 16:46.52 | blast007 | haven't had a whole lot of problems until this part, because they keep respawning |
| 16:48.26 | blast007 | just found a rocket launcher a couple days ago.. does like 930 damage |
| 16:49.00 | blast007 | and I did find a corrosive shield |
| 16:49.05 | JeffM | I've seen some that do over 1k |
| 16:49.14 | JeffM | probalby have to get one from the gunzerker |
| 16:50.23 | blast007 | perhaps I just need to reset my skills.. I've focused a lot on my turret, but that gets blown away quite quickly by the mechs |
| 16:50.48 | JeffM | isn't there a tree that gets you 2 turrets? |
| 16:51.03 | blast007 | that's way down at the bottom |
| 16:51.07 | JeffM | ahh |
| 16:51.27 | blast007 | I've been ramping up how long it lasts and how many shots it fires in each burst |
| 16:51.55 | blast007 | the dual turrets is also in the third column of stuff and not the first like the duration/shots |
| 16:52.38 | JeffM | what level are you? |
| 16:52.48 | blast007 | think like 13 or 14 |
| 16:53.04 | JeffM | k, I think we are 14-15 |
| 16:53.29 | blast007 | might just have to go grind some bandits for a while and get my levels up a bit ;) |
| 16:53.42 | JeffM | finish off side quests |
| 16:53.53 | blast007 | don't think I have a whole lot of them left |
| 16:53.55 | JeffM | Help Loggins get to the DangerZone! |
| 16:56.43 | JeffM | at one point he feels the need.. the need for speed |
| 17:07.18 | BulletCatcher | I have been looking into what would be required to have our own bot report commits to the channel. |
| 17:07.24 | BulletCatcher | Eggdrop seems to be the biggest customizable open source bot, but our needs are simple enough that a small custom bot would be doable. |
| 17:07.27 | BulletCatcher | My biggest concern is the possibility of getting K-lined while testing. |
| 17:08.13 | JeffM | you test in a seperate channel |
| 17:08.18 | JeffM | usualy that's ok |
| 17:08.28 | JeffM | and most bots have flood protection |
| 17:09.00 | JeffM | Make #bzflag_svnbottesting |
| 17:09.13 | JeffM | then it'll be clear to staff what is happening |
| 17:11.35 | BulletCatcher | Protection from flooding and other abuse would be a good reason to go with Eggdrop rather than writing it from scratch. |
| 17:12.04 | JeffM | oh there would be no reason to write one from scratch |
| 17:12.09 | JeffM | there are a TON of bots |
| 17:12.12 | JeffM | and IRC libs |
| 17:12.32 | JeffM | I think the last non CIA one we had used libIRC |
| 17:13.06 | BulletCatcher | I was thinking of doing it in Perl. |
| 17:13.07 | BulletCatcher | http://poe.perl.org/?POE_Cookbook/IRC_Bots has a trivial example. |
| 17:13.14 | JeffM | honestly I'd wait a day or 2, we are not the only people in this postion, another service will emerge |
| 17:13.30 | JeffM | it was too popular to not exist |
| 17:13.52 | BulletCatcher | That would certainly be the path of least resistance. |
| 17:13.57 | JeffM | cia was open source, why not just set it up on another server? |
| 17:14.14 | JeffM | so we have to set our data up again, that's better then reinventing the wheel |
| 17:14.53 | JeffM | even the debian games team used it, we should at least ask them what they plan on doing ;) |
| 17:14.56 | JeffM | since they seem nice |
| 17:16.35 | BulletCatcher | I have have a low-priority interest in having a bot report events to our private IRC server at work, so this was an opportunity to get some experience for that. |
| 17:16.45 | JeffM | sure |
| 17:16.54 | JeffM | there are ways to do it in many langauges |
| 17:17.07 | BulletCatcher | But I agree that someone else is likely to replace CIA before I get around to doing anything myself. |
| 17:17.10 | JeffM | IRC is just a crap protocoll to have to redo yourself |
| 17:17.30 | JeffM | it was a pain when I redid libIRC |
| 17:25.40 | dngor | The people on irc.perl.org #poe are helpful. |
| 17:36.16 | BulletCatcher | That's good to know. Thanks, dngor. |
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| 18:10.02 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: http://kgb.alioth.debian.org/ and http://alioth.debian.org/projects/kgb/ |
| 18:11.02 | blast007 | Also.. Topic for #cia: CIA is dead. https://github.com/nenolod/irker-cia-proxy may be useful when used with an implementation of the irker notification shipping protocol, see http://www.catb.org/~esr/irker/ |
| 18:13.33 | JeffM | yeah there has to be that kind of service, it's too useful to totaly fail |
| 18:14.10 | blast007 | http://code.google.com/p/cia-vc |
| 18:14.16 | I_Died_Once | if we can only have the same thing done to the FBI...... |
| 18:14.56 | blast007 | main problem with SF is that there seems to be two options right now. CIA or email. |
| 18:32.22 | blast007 | JeffM: and it sounds like the games team is gonna switch to KGB |
| 18:32.24 | blast007 | < Rhonda> We use kgb in #debian-www now too, maybe we should also switch to kgb for the game repositories. |
| 18:32.28 | blast007 | < pabs> yes please |
| 18:32.47 | blast007 | I'm not sure if kgb is a hosted server somewhere though |
| 18:34.43 | blast007 | though again, we probably can't even use it since you probably need raw access to the SVN repo, which we can't do with SF |
| 18:34.53 | blast007 | raw filesystem access* |
| 18:52.09 | blast007 | wow. installing the kgb-bot package on the BZFlag VM wants to install 87 packages (67 with --without-recommends) :) |
| 18:52.37 | blast007 | lots of perl libs, it looks like |
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| 19:50.59 | JeffM | blast007, so move off of SF |
| 21:14.52 | blast007 | JeffM: pondering it :) |
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