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16:19.01blast007JeffM: uninstalling my local PHP fixed the crash I was having with the Torque3D project creator
16:19.21JeffMsweet
16:19.38blast007Doesn't seem like there's a project file for the engine itself.  I was gonna see if I could debug why the game can't detect how much video memory I have.
16:20.14JeffMthe engine code is in the project that it makes in "templates"
16:20.22JeffMthere is a folder called engine
16:20.42blast007oh, so it copies the engine as well?
16:21.12blast007(in other news, Git on Windows still sucks)
16:21.33JeffMwell it has a reference to the files
16:21.40JeffMnot a copy of them
16:21.43blast007k
16:21.56JeffMand yeah GIT kinda blows
16:21.58blast007the project file didn't seem to include all files
16:22.00JeffMhg works ish
16:22.10JeffMit was buried in a subfolder
16:22.16blast007I found something in Torsion that I couldn't find in the VC project
16:23.03JeffMI'm still downloading the zip here
16:24.10blast007none of the .cs files show up for me when I load the 2008 solution, for example
16:25.42JeffMI don't know if the scripts are suposed to be part of the project, you edit those in torsion IIRC
16:25.56JeffMbut then it's been a while since I used the engine
16:26.36blast007kinda sucks, cuz then you can't follow stuff back to the engine
16:27.03JeffMwell it was designed to where you didn't have engine source :)
16:35.57JeffMin the VC 10 project, the engine files are under "full dll"-> source files->engine
16:36.03blast007I think this has fewer comments than BZFlag..
16:36.19blast007yeah, found those
16:36.46JeffMprobalby, I don't think we'll have to mod the engine much if at all
16:37.00blast007well, I was trying to *fix* their engine ;)
16:37.03JeffMspecialy if we can do master server as a wraper app
16:39.11blast007http://imagebin.org/229508
16:39.41JeffMI'm building now to see if it has the same problem on my system with the same card
16:40.01JeffMwhat version of the DX sdk do you have?
16:41.48JeffMyeah seems to work for me
16:42.25JeffMmaybe it's a VC9 problem
16:42.39JeffMI can try building in that
16:42.41blast007does it matter if I have the SDK?  I'm using tehir bins
16:42.43blast007their*
16:42.52JeffMoh you didn't build?
16:42.55blast007nope
16:43.04blast007so maybe that's the issue :)
16:43.47blast007guess I just assumed they knew what they were doing
16:44.02JeffMI don't know what the premade bins were made with
16:44.13blast007did the same thing with the demo of torque 3d 1.2
16:44.24JeffMwhat drivers are you using?
16:44.46JeffMI have 306.02
16:44.48blast007305.68
16:45.30blast007I'll toss on 306.23
16:48.10blast007same deal
16:49.35JeffMthe bins the may are tied into the "torque toolbox" a think you don't have to use
16:49.46JeffMit's not really the same thing as what the bins make
16:50.23JeffMthe toolbox crashes for me a lot, but mostly it's a tutorial tool and a link to where they sell stuff
16:53.02blast007I'm wondering if it's overflowing a variable since it's a 2GB card
16:53.44JeffMthen I'd have the same problem
16:53.51blast007yeah, one would think..
16:54.09blast007just to be clear, you hit the autodetect button and it properly detected settings?
16:54.20JeffMyeah
16:54.31blast007weird
16:54.53blast007I see they are storing it in a long
16:55.05blast007and if it's storing it initially as bytes, that would overflow a long, no?
16:55.11blast007longVal = longVal >> 20; // Convert to megabytes
16:55.16JeffMit'd be at the end of it
16:55.30blast007one past the end, actually
16:55.31JeffMmaybe you report slithgly more
16:55.32JeffMyeah
16:55.46JeffMmake it a UInt64
16:55.47blast007so it'd roll around to the lowest negative number
16:55.56JeffMor unsigned
16:55.58blast007or a long long
16:56.15JeffMthat's what a Uint64 is ;)
16:57.42blast007guess it's "unsigned __int64" actually
16:57.51blast007there's not a typedef defined for Uint64
16:58.11JeffMyeah sorry that's the .net version :)
16:59.06blast007is a 'long' larger on a 64-bit platform?
16:59.22JeffMgeneraly not
16:59.30JeffMunless it's IA64
17:00.18blast007I need to sign my school up for dreamspark so I can get the new Visual Studio ;)
17:02.34blast007I like to see all four cores maxed out  :)
18:31.58blast007JeffM: looks like it's failing to look up the AdapterRAM from WMI
18:34.06blast007ah!  it's checking the LogMeIn Mirror Driver adapter instead of my actual GPU :P
18:35.28blast007either that, or it's the negative number that WMI is returning for my AdapterRAM (seems like it uses a signed long internally for WMI as well)
18:35.40blast007so not an easy fix
18:38.06blast007well, or perhaps it's not WMI but VBScript that uses a signed long
18:42.06JeffMheh
18:42.34JeffMpost about it on the forums, maybe someone has fixed it
18:43.38blast007seems like it *is* picking up the right card
18:45.27blast007the WMI value does seem to come back as a 32-bit signed int, so the likely fix is to not use WMI for that value
18:46.24blast007cuz even if you covert it to an unsigned value, it still wouldn't work with a 4GB or larger card
18:48.01blast007anyways, I'll have to post about it later.  they do use WMI as a last resort, but the first two methods aren't complete (first one is DXGI, second is Dxdiag, which I think they mentioned doesn't work correctly for adapter RAM since it counts shared memory as well)
18:48.31blast007the DXGI part is def'd out right now
18:50.05blast007JeffM: have you gotten to the part where you have to save Roland?
18:50.14JeffMon one playthru yeah
18:50.19JeffMwe just finished that bit last night
18:51.36blast007is it possible to destroy that thing before it takes him off to the prison camp?
18:51.42blast007I was getting my butt handed to me at that part
18:52.10blast007and its shields kept recharging before I could hardly dent it
18:52.33JeffMoh you didn't stop it?
18:52.46JeffMyeah we totaly stopped it and took him back to the city
18:52.49JeffMit was super hard
18:52.54JeffMit's all about corosive weapons
19:01.32blast007ah
19:01.54JeffMI just had a corosive pistol and it melted the mechs like butter
19:05.33Delusionalhttp://www.balloon-juice.com/managed-images/kittengun.jpg
19:15.56blast007I was using a shock pistol, which is supposed to be good against shields.. but it's hard when the mechs keep respawning
19:16.19JeffMyeah mechs are "armor" not shields
19:16.29blast007some have shields as well
19:16.38JeffMyeah
19:16.39blast007and the transporter has one heck of a shield
19:16.42JeffMdid you kill all the bonerfarts?
19:23.34blast007probably not
19:23.47JeffMare you doing sidequests?
19:35.13blast007yeah, I have most of them done
19:35.26blast007I think I sold some corrosive weapons...
19:36.31JeffMdid you do the one where hamerlock was trying to find a new name for bullymons?
20:01.51blast007yeah
20:02.06blast007and the one with the fur
20:03.30blast007and the one where the midget bandit was riding the bullymong
20:28.23I_Died_Onceis there a way to enable -disableBots during a game in progress?
20:28.33I_Died_Onceor do i have to restart for that?
20:30.54blast007isn't there a bzdb variable?
20:30.59blast007_disableBots, iirc
20:32.35allejoyea _disableBots
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23:14.51mahem1Hey all.
23:16.26mahem1So I am having some trouble with my client. I just built it on Ubuntu 12.01 and when I start the client it works the first time but then we I close and restart it again and join a server my tank turns slowly to the left.
23:17.42mahem1If I change the input to keys it will stop, but if I go back to mouse it continues. If I delete my config it will work untill I close my client and reopen it. I have tried two different mice so I doubt it is that.
23:17.55mahem1Has this happened to anyone?
23:18.05JeffMthat sounds odd
23:18.17mahem1I also have tried rebuilding.
23:18.57JeffMdoes it think one of the keys is held down or the mouse is moved?
23:19.23mahem1I have also tried unbinding the arrow keys.
23:19.43mahem1So I doubt it.
23:20.05JeffMthen it thinks the mouse is moved, that's SDL or the system not bzflag
23:20.58mahem1Any advice on fixing either of those?
23:21.22JeffMdebug the client and see why it thinks the mouse is moved
23:22.21mahem1Ahh? -dddd?
23:22.36JeffMon no no, I mean real debuging, gdb
23:22.45JeffM-d is just more logging
23:23.11mahem1kk
23:23.39JeffMhave you tried the package the debian maintainers have made?
23:24.29mahem1I used 'svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag' to get it.
23:24.54JeffMI know what you did, that's not what I'm asking
23:25.45JeffMsadly I don't remember the link to it
23:26.24mahem1I see.
23:27.48JeffMthe debian games team made a repository that you can add to just get the premade version of bzflag from the unstable branch
23:30.53mahem1-debug, doesn't seem to be giving me anything.
23:31.02JeffMno it wouldn't
23:31.32JeffMyou would need to build a debug build of the client and run it in gdb the gnu debuger
23:31.39JeffMand step into the code that does the mouse
23:31.53JeffMif you arn't familiar with C++ then it will be very hard for you
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23:37.32JeffMdo you have more then one input device?
23:39.01mahem1Yeah, I just disable my broken touch screen. (that has cause me trouble in the past.)
23:39.05mahem1Other than that no.
23:39.29JeffMthe system may still be seeing it
23:39.58JeffMnobody else has ever reported this problem, so it's got to be something on your end, something is making the mouse not remap to the center of the screen on startup
23:41.34mahem1The visual pointer goes back to the center and I can control my forward and backward motion, but I can't control left and right.
23:41.51JeffMdon't know what to tell you
23:41.59mahem1ok
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