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| 01:21.44 | short_circuit | holy freaking crap!!! I was on bzaddict.net 5219 and got caught up in a transporter... It locked and screamed the transporter sound at me at about 30hz! The noise was the most wicked evil ever brought forth by BZflag 8~O |
| 01:22.25 | blast007 | even worse than the usual thief sound played repeatedly as someone holds down the fire key? |
| 01:22.45 | short_circuit | yes... way worse.. as I held the fire key on theif flag just a bit before that |
| 01:22.49 | short_circuit | it was insane! |
| 01:23.20 | short_circuit | I think I blew a speaker... and my left ear is bleeding |
| 01:24.09 | short_circuit | #/lick... yep... blood |
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| 01:42.08 | blast007 | JeffM: are you enjoying the new GPU? |
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| 01:42.25 | JeffM | I have had no problems with it |
| 01:42.31 | JeffM | and can run guildwars 2 in high res |
| 01:42.53 | JeffM | so yeah |
| 01:43.08 | JeffM | it seems to fit better with the CPU upgrade I did a while ago |
| 01:43.09 | blast007 | I'm running L4D2 with everything turned on, even the highest AA at 1920x1200, and still getting around 180 FPS :) |
| 01:43.19 | JeffM | nice |
| 01:43.27 | blast007 | without AA, I was hitting the 300 FPS limit (which I didn't realize existed until now) |
| 01:43.37 | JeffM | heh |
| 01:43.48 | JeffM | I'll be trying it with borderlands when that drops next week |
| 01:43.53 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 01:43.58 | JeffM | then torchlight2 I guess |
| 01:44.01 | blast007 | quick an impressive card |
| 01:44.09 | blast007 | quite* |
| 01:44.18 | JeffM | yeah for 300$ |
| 01:44.48 | blast007 | kinda goes to waste on minecraft, since that's probably a bit more CPU bound than games like L4D2 :P |
| 01:45.07 | JeffM | my guess is mincraft is memory bound |
| 01:45.12 | blast007 | could be |
| 01:45.22 | JeffM | but CPU would be next |
| 01:45.30 | JeffM | done learned some java last week |
| 01:55.05 | short_circuit | The dark side? |
| 01:56.18 | JeffM | it's required for my school |
| 02:04.55 | short_circuit | Professor is a Sith Lord X~P |
| 02:05.03 | short_circuit | checks out :p |
| 02:05.13 | JeffM | no just some guy |
| 02:06.55 | short_circuit | should be nice. His eldest daughter hadda learn some java in her last class. |
| 02:07.13 | JeffM | it's a common teaching language these days |
| 02:08.58 | short_circuit | when I was advanced technical training boolean was 'it' I'm so old. I entered code in hexdec :( |
| 02:09.17 | short_circuit | 80 processor on a breadboard. |
| 02:09.43 | short_circuit | ;;;;-( |
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| 19:29.29 | JeffM | hmm Torque3D is going open source... |
| 19:30.00 | JeffM | bzflag could be done in it in like a week |
| 19:43.13 | blast007 | and the MIT license, nice |
| 19:43.21 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:43.33 | JeffM | all we'd have to do is move over assests and script up the game behavor |
| 19:46.05 | blast007 | what platforms does it support? can't seem to locate that info |
| 19:46.51 | blast007 | licensing page seems to imply windows, mac, and linux, mobile stuff, and consoles - but that's all in the legal speak stuff |
| 19:47.16 | blast007 | documentation only mentions windows |
| 19:49.09 | JeffM | yeah it's on all 3 |
| 19:49.30 | JeffM | I actualy purchased it when it was 100 and seriously pondered using it for something like BZ |
| 19:49.39 | JeffM | having to spend 100$ per developer was an issue |
| 19:50.01 | JeffM | it would do the ones we need |
| 19:50.14 | JeffM | I'm not sure how the dedicated server stuff works |
| 19:50.24 | JeffM | but I'm sure it's figure-out-able |
| 19:52.00 | blast007 | yeah, it'd be an interesting one to look at |
| 19:52.05 | blast007 | I even see iPhone support ;) |
| 19:52.21 | blast007 | "The source code could be compiled for Windows, Macintosh, Linux, Wii, Xbox 360, and iPhone platforms" |
| 19:52.26 | JeffM | for 3d or 2d? |
| 19:52.33 | JeffM | they have several products |
| 19:52.34 | blast007 | dunno, this is from wikipedia |
| 19:52.38 | blast007 | so it's probably all incorrect anyways |
| 19:52.50 | blast007 | this was talking about Torque Game Engine |
| 19:52.59 | JeffM | there is Torqe3d that is linux, win, and OSX |
| 19:53.08 | JeffM | and torque 2d thats all those and some mobile |
| 19:53.24 | JeffM | and iTorque2d that's iphone |
| 19:53.27 | blast007 | the link to tge redirects to torque-3d now |
| 19:53.51 | blast007 | I guess we'll see once it comes out |
| 19:54.07 | JeffM | has the source for what he bought somewhere |
| 19:54.43 | blast007 | I'd be fine with just the computer platforms anyway ;) |
| 19:54.47 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:54.48 | blast007 | consoles are so 2010. |
| 19:54.58 | JeffM | and it comes with tools, like editors and the like |
| 19:55.47 | JeffM | and I'm sure others will port it to some whackass platforms too |
| 19:55.51 | blast007 | it'll be a much more exciting release than, say, the Doom 3 engine release |
| 19:56.04 | JeffM | Id's code is always horrible |
| 19:56.26 | blast007 | not to mention that D3's code wasn't 100% complete due to some things they had to pull |
| 19:57.52 | I_Died_Once | hey, I was playing doom last week |
| 19:59.29 | JeffM | they used to even sell a premade tank model |
| 20:01.46 | I_Died_Once | iddqd |
| 20:02.17 | I_Died_Once | idbehold# |
| 20:02.31 | I_Died_Once | idkfa |
| 20:03.48 | JeffM | at least this engine was made to be sold and reused |
| 20:03.54 | JeffM | it makes heavy use of scripting |
| 20:04.20 | JeffM | I had a simple FPS going with the premade models in about a day |
| 20:04.53 | JeffM | should be simple to just add the bzflag art assets and code up all the flags |
| 20:05.01 | JeffM | then it'd be playable |
| 20:05.16 | JeffM | after that make a set of OS specific launcher/patchers and we'd be good |
| 20:10.53 | blast007 | though we might want to swap out some assets for ones with have sources for ;) |
| 20:10.53 | blast007 | ones we have* |
| 20:11.10 | blast007 | well, debian approved sources, that is :P |
| 20:11.24 | JeffM | sure |
| 20:11.36 | JeffM | I don't know how they do fonts |
| 20:12.33 | JeffM | tho I have some ideas how to do auto patching and keep debian happy :) |
| 20:12.53 | JeffM | have the patcher on linux check out from a svn repo and do a build |
| 20:12.56 | JeffM | then you have the source |
| 20:15.26 | JeffM | server wise it'd work the same as we do now, one server per game, but our launcher could do the list server and auth and all that |
| 20:15.46 | JeffM | but it would be real internet networking |
| 20:17.15 | blast007 | not even sure that would keep debian happy |
| 20:17.23 | JeffM | screwem then |
| 20:17.30 | JeffM | once it's autopatching who cares |
| 20:18.17 | blast007 | iirc, stuff like chromium adds another repo |
| 20:18.26 | JeffM | then that'd be the way to go |
| 20:18.37 | blast007 | then again, I might be thinking of Ubuntu |
| 20:18.56 | I_Died_Once | google chrome does indeed add a repos |
| 20:19.04 | JeffM | I think ubuntu based desktops are used for games more then pure debian |
| 20:19.09 | blast007 | might be chrome and not chromium |
| 20:19.14 | I_Died_Once | and does some apt pinning and other stufff |
| 20:19.21 | JeffM | it's all solveable |
| 20:19.25 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:20.05 | JeffM | all the other engines I've looked at are not full game engines, they do 3d or networking, but not all of it |
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