| 00:00.02 | blast007 | "<+JeffM> going to have to decide if I want to do next term's CS class in windows or OSX...." <-- after today, are you leaning one way or another? ;) |
| 00:00.24 | jeffm | blast007: well since I can VM in OSX, I could just use linux |
| 00:00.25 | BulletCatcher | Cool. HTML5 allows uploading multiple files at once. |
| 00:00.45 | jeffm | I need to redo the windows install with a bigger disk anyway |
| 00:01.31 | jeffm | well then I'm going to target to get food and stuff, so I'll bbiab |
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| 00:12.08 | BulletCatcher | http://sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag/files/bzflag%20source/2.4.2/ |
| 00:13.39 | blast007 | k, I'll get a Windows installer made up |
| 00:13.46 | BulletCatcher | yay |
| 00:19.18 | BulletCatcher | The files I download from SF are identical to the ones I uploaded. :-) |
| 00:20.55 | blast007 | that's always a good sign ;) |
| 00:21.00 | BulletCatcher | indeed |
| 00:25.57 | blast007 | bleh, maybe I'll get this done right on the third try ;D |
| 00:32.14 | blast007 | okay.. wtf.. I create a new folder on SF, it shows up, I click on it, says it doesn't exist, and now it doesn't show up |
| 00:32.23 | blast007 | and .. now it does |
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| 00:38.36 | BulletCatcher | It took several minutes for the .zip file to be available even though the two tar files were up immediately. |
| 00:38.50 | jeffm | I love it when chanserv grants me voice |
| 00:38.58 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:39.04 | blast007 | windows binary is up |
| 00:39.17 | jeffm | BulletCatcher: they probably saw that it had MFC and had to double check it |
| 00:39.25 | BulletCatcher | Does it run? |
| 00:39.31 | blast007 | and I set that to be the default on windows, the the tar.bz2 to be the default on everything other than OSX and Windows |
| 00:39.43 | blast007 | yeah, I joined a server before uploading ;) |
| 00:39.46 | jeffm | yeah that's what we normally do |
| 00:39.51 | jeffm | I can reboot and test it |
| 00:39.54 | BulletCatcher | Ah. Need to add that step to the DEVINFO file. |
| 00:40.20 | blast007 | you have to hit the little (i) icon next to set that info |
| 00:40.32 | blast007 | I'm gonna go update the website now |
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| 00:45.19 | BulletCatcher | Here comes the 2.4.3 bump... |
| 00:46.12 | CIA-106 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22529 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Bump version to 2.4.3 for future development. |
| 00:46.27 | blast007 | should our download page have some note about the version? |
| 00:46.35 | blast007 | and/or release dates? |
| 00:47.00 | BulletCatcher | That seems reasonable. |
| 00:47.27 | CIA-106 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * r22530 10/trunk/bzflag/ (data/title.png misc/art/title.psd): bump to 2.4.3 |
| 00:48.52 | blast007 | What source archive should I default to? Currently it points to the .zip. |
| 00:48.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 00:49.02 | JeffM | tar.bz2 |
| 00:49.09 | blast007 | k |
| 00:49.20 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://wiki.BZFlag.org/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || 2.4.2 is released, deal with it |
| 00:50.40 | JeffM | yep installer works |
| 00:50.49 | BulletCatcher | You may update the art at your convenience, JeffM. |
| 00:50.57 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, dude, read up |
| 00:51.00 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:51.01 | JeffM | already done |
| 00:51.04 | BulletCatcher | lol |
| 00:51.11 | JeffM | all I had to do was hit commit |
| 00:52.28 | JeffM | I'll pull the source and do a build just to double check |
| 00:52.49 | blast007 | I built the installer from the source download |
| 00:52.52 | blast007 | the tar.gz even |
| 00:53.02 | JeffM | I know, this is just a double check with full VC |
| 00:53.05 | blast007 | k |
| 00:53.15 | JeffM | figured it can't hurt |
| 00:53.22 | JeffM | and I'll try a 64 bit client just to see |
| 00:54.03 | blast007 | oh, hmm, wonder if that's the right vcredist |
| 00:54.16 | JeffM | you use SP1? |
| 00:54.44 | blast007 | that'd be a nope |
| 00:54.50 | blast007 | it's the 2008 runtime |
| 00:54.56 | blast007 | we should be 2010 now, right? |
| 00:55.35 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:55.37 | JeffM | SP1 |
| 00:55.57 | blast007 | pulls the installer |
| 00:56.04 | JeffM | I have the one that goes with my full VC |
| 00:56.31 | blast007 | I had pulled the one that was still linked in the nsis script without thinking |
| 01:00.34 | JeffM | it's building now |
| 01:03.32 | blast007 | JeffM: I have a corrected package here. Should I upload mine, or are you doing one? |
| 01:03.40 | JeffM | upload yours |
| 01:03.53 | JeffM | tho I see an error in the changelog that BulletCatcher missed :) |
| 01:03.58 | JeffM | but it's no biggie |
| 01:04.03 | JeffM | hats work in windows too |
| 01:04.18 | JeffM | it's just that khonkhortisan didn't commit it, I did |
| 01:05.13 | blast007 | god.. when you said hats, my first thought was hats you can buy, and I was sitting there confused for a few seconds |
| 01:06.30 | JeffM | heh |
| 01:06.35 | JeffM | that's for the steam edition |
| 01:07.15 | blast007 | and if we do seriously try to get into steam, there's quite a bit we should "clean up" first, both UI and gameplay |
| 01:07.25 | blast007 | and then the whole conflict with the F12 key ;) |
| 01:07.49 | JeffM | yes |
| 01:07.52 | JeffM | has a list |
| 01:07.55 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:08.09 | JeffM | we'd never have to worry about authentication again :) |
| 01:08.11 | blast007 | is the FPS dependent simulation code on the list? |
| 01:08.24 | JeffM | some form of lag compensation is |
| 01:08.35 | JeffM | and that incudes low FPS sim steps |
| 01:08.43 | blast007 | finds it amusing to bounce off boxes like they're jello when he gets 500 FPS |
| 01:08.48 | JeffM | writes up the forum post now |
| 01:09.03 | JeffM | yeah I'd limit it to 100 sim frames a second |
| 01:09.05 | blast007 | I'll finish updating the site, and update the MOTD for auto-upgrade |
| 01:16.45 | blast007 | ah, and nvm. I link to the 2.4.2 source directory, not to a specific file. |
| 01:17.03 | blast007 | I was looking at the wrong line. The OSX bin in a .zip. :) |
| 01:19.32 | JeffM | you ok with me hitting post? or should I wait? |
| 01:20.37 | blast007 | we're good to go. I'm updating the site shortly, then the MOTD. |
| 01:20.58 | allejo | no way. 2.4.2 got released? ._. |
| 01:21.09 | JeffM | an admin will need to sticky |
| 01:21.20 | JeffM | why can nobody read the topic? |
| 01:21.30 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://wiki.BZFlag.org/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || 2.4.2 is released, deal with it, purple monkey dishwasher |
| 01:22.39 | JeffM | allejo, it wasn't hard it has no features :) |
| 01:22.45 | CIA-106 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 9a40b59b84a7 r45 10/application/views/ (downloads.tpl.php header.tpl.php): BZFlag 2.4.2 has been released. |
| 01:22.54 | allejo | bahahaha just bug fixes? |
| 01:23.01 | blast007 | build fixes, mostly |
| 01:23.08 | JeffM | yeah not many bug fixes ether |
| 01:23.22 | JeffM | it's just so the debian people can make a package with a version that actualy builds on debian |
| 01:23.36 | JeffM | 2.4 didn't do so well on the ubuntu |
| 01:23.41 | blast007 | builds properly, at least |
| 01:24.07 | blast007 | 2.4.0 did build, but I don't think it was detecting some system library, so it always built our interal version |
| 01:24.30 | JeffM | there are a couple small things, some plugins, joystick hats, radar options |
| 01:24.35 | allejo | ah so 2.4.2 is just to support debian and ubuntu or just debian? |
| 01:24.36 | blast007 | and I doubt that was just a debian/ubuntu issue - likely happened on most of the linuxes |
| 01:24.44 | JeffM | ubuntu is based on debian |
| 01:24.54 | allejo | ah right |
| 01:24.57 | JeffM | so if debian gets a new build ubuntu will too |
| 01:25.05 | allejo | hurrah |
| 01:25.27 | JeffM | hopefuly they won't stick it in non-free |
| 01:25.31 | JeffM | or contrib |
| 01:25.48 | blast007 | though we'll probably poke both Debian and Ubuntu about getting it put into backports |
| 01:25.55 | JeffM | yeah |
| 01:25.57 | blast007 | and maybe Mint |
| 01:26.06 | blast007 | Mint is rather popular |
| 01:26.14 | JeffM | once there is a package it should be easy to get it into whatevs |
| 01:26.22 | blast007 | yup |
| 01:26.25 | JeffM | that's just cat wranglin |
| 01:26.33 | JeffM | then steam :) |
| 01:27.06 | JeffM | and rename it super hat tank game |
| 01:28.07 | blast007 | and then we could have an Asshat that generates a green cloud to blind/confuse other tanks. |
| 01:29.16 | blast007 | okay, website updated. It shows the version number for each download item now. |
| 01:29.57 | JeffM | then I just need the sticky swaped on the posts and I think we are good untill someone finds a problem |
| 01:30.33 | blast007 | and I don't have an UI for the MOTD, so I just do that by hand |
| 01:30.49 | JeffM | security by obfuscation |
| 01:31.14 | BulletCatcher | It is never too late to correct the ChangeLog, JeffM. |
| 01:31.27 | JeffM | whatever floats your boat |
| 01:32.10 | BulletCatcher | You know what is wrong, you can change it if you want. |
| 01:32.16 | blast007 | or security by security :P |
| 01:32.30 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, just the statement about hats should include windows |
| 01:32.40 | blast007 | also, UPnP isn't enabled by default |
| 01:32.49 | JeffM | thats why I said "option" |
| 01:32.57 | blast007 | I mean, it's not built by default |
| 01:33.08 | JeffM | yeah it's a hard option to enable |
| 01:33.13 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:33.14 | JeffM | I didn't say where the option was :) |
| 01:34.06 | blast007 | post sticky'd |
| 01:34.38 | CIA-106 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * r22531 10/trunk/bzflag/ChangeLog: windows has hats too... windows invented hats if you ask valve |
| 01:35.18 | JeffM | blast007, the old one was an announcement sorry |
| 01:35.23 | JeffM | the new one should replace it there |
| 01:37.06 | blast007 | derp, fixed |
| 01:37.31 | blast007 | JeffM: what do you normally use for MySQL administration? phpMyAdmin? |
| 01:37.42 | JeffM | webmin :) |
| 01:37.46 | JeffM | or an IT dept |
| 01:37.46 | blast007 | ew |
| 01:37.54 | JeffM | usualy an IT dept |
| 01:37.58 | blast007 | webmin is a security hold |
| 01:38.06 | blast007 | MySQL Workbench is pretty sweet |
| 01:38.07 | JeffM | yeah lately I've stoped using it |
| 01:38.13 | JeffM | and using the windows admin tool |
| 01:38.18 | JeffM | is that workbench |
| 01:38.21 | blast007 | you can connect to a MySQL server over an SSH tunnel |
| 01:38.22 | JeffM | it's a thingy that I install |
| 01:38.25 | JeffM | yeah |
| 01:38.44 | blast007 | MySQL Workbench is included with one of the windows mysql installers, iirc |
| 01:38.44 | JeffM | I generaly only edit datababases on dev systems that arn't on the interwebs |
| 01:38.59 | JeffM | I don't have access on our production machines |
| 01:39.05 | blast007 | ah |
| 01:39.41 | JeffM | I just write crappy websites, I don't maintain them :) |
| 01:39.50 | JeffM | that's what I wanted to hire you to do |
| 01:43.55 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:44.13 | JeffM | tho the last one I did was less crappy cus I used a framework |
| 01:44.17 | JeffM | CakePhp |
| 01:46.08 | blast007 | hmm, update failed... "Unknown errror" ;D |
| 01:46.14 | blast007 | the auto-update in the client |
| 01:46.27 | JeffM | fun |
| 01:49.30 | blast007 | "Invalid argument" |
| 01:53.18 | blast007 | hrm, fails in 2.0 as well |
| 01:53.29 | blast007 | oh well, I'll leave that turned off for now |
| 01:53.35 | JeffM | heh |
| 01:53.39 | JeffM | steam! |
| 01:55.21 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:56.47 | JeffM | One bin to rule them all, one bin to find them. One bin to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. |
| 01:57.51 | I_Died_Once | one does not simply compile their way into Mordor |
| 01:58.07 | JeffM | yeah you fly on big ass eagles |
| 02:26.06 | blast007 | "Blast is that the further bzflag verison i download when jeff releae or not?" I'm not even sure why I dignified that with a response... :/ |
| 02:26.43 | JeffM | wtf? |
| 02:27.03 | blast007 | yeah, that's Dazzling, the kid whose primary language is "Engish" |
| 02:27.34 | JeffM | he can't be 13 |
| 02:28.04 | blast007 | he says he is though ;) |
| 02:28.12 | blast007 | but I think he carried a 1 |
| 02:28.25 | JeffM | if he is then he can't be mentaly compenent enough to engage in a contract |
| 02:28.56 | JeffM | tell him my release only works for those with an IQ over 90 |
| 02:29.12 | JeffM | even tho you made it :) |
| 02:29.17 | blast007 | maybe he types with his nose on an iPhone |
| 02:29.54 | JeffM | just reply with LOL WHUT? |
| 02:29.59 | JeffM | every time |
| 02:31.56 | blast007 | heh |
| 02:32.19 | blast007 | IMA LET U FINNISH, BUT I GOT NO CLU WUT U SAI |
| 02:32.27 | JeffM | Cool story bro |
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| 02:42.01 | blast007 | he drives me crazy.. never replies to PMs, always starts a new one... and this new one has the subject line of 'is' |
| 02:42.11 | JeffM | ignore him then |
| 02:42.31 | blast007 | I'm sent "What?" and I'll just keep doing that now :P |
| 02:42.37 | JeffM | or tell him if he's not capable of comunicting like an adult he will be removed. |
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| 08:10.53 | allejo | "In file included from TextureManager.cxx:30: ../../include/global.h:74:25: error: use of C99 hexadecimal floating constant" is that just me? |
| 09:08.51 | apeman_ | does that include "just you and your computer"? |
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| 14:46.38 | BulletCatcher | allejo: What is the definition of MAXFLOAT in /usr/include/math.h on your computer? |
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| 19:54.31 | allejo | BulletCatcher, it's -> #define MAXFLOAT 0x1.fffffep+127f |
| 19:57.45 | BulletCatcher | That's the hexadecimal floating constant your compiler doesn't like. |
| 19:59.35 | BulletCatcher | It seems like your distro ought to ship a more compatible .h file. |
| 20:00.18 | allejo | It's OS X Mountain Lion |
| 20:01.12 | BulletCatcher | Which Xcode version? |
| 20:01.52 | allejo | 4.4 |
| 20:02.12 | BulletCatcher | Hmm, that is the latest. |
| 20:05.13 | BulletCatcher | Try "make -U__USE_XOPEN" and see how that works. |
| 20:06.23 | BulletCatcher | No, that probably won't help on Mac OS X. |
| 20:07.36 | allejo | are there two _ between the Us? because just gave invalid options |
| 20:08.45 | BulletCatcher | That was the right thing for Linux, but probably not for the Mac. |
| 20:09.27 | BulletCatcher | The Linux math.h has MAXFLOAT defined inside #ifdef __USE_XOPEN. |
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| 20:31.24 | allejo | BulletCatcher, is there anything i should i do? would any modifications to the math.h file help? |
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| 21:37.03 | blast007 | allejo: you should not have to modify anything that is part of your system |
| 21:37.09 | blast007 | (nor should you) |
| 21:37.19 | BulletCatcher | Rather than modifiy math.h you could hack BZFlag's include/common.h file with "#undef MAXFLOAT" just before the #ifdef for it. |
| 21:37.20 | BulletCatcher | You'll also need to adjust the MAXFLOAT value. |
| 21:37.36 | blast007 | allejo: does that system have anything on it like Fink or Macports? |
| 21:40.23 | BulletCatcher | A tiny C program that does printf("%e\n",MAXFLOAT) should give you a suitable decimal notation. |
| 21:41.46 | BulletCatcher | A format string of "%.10e\n" should give better precision than the default. |
| 21:42.01 | allejo | blast007, nope, i did a clean install of mountain lion. BulletCatcher, the "#undef MAXFLOAT" seems to have worked it's compiling |
| 21:42.22 | BulletCatcher | Yes, but it is using the wrong MAXFLOAT value. |
| 21:43.21 | BulletCatcher | If that is the only C99 problem we may even be able to commit a fix. |
| 21:44.19 | allejo | should i compile with just #undef or what do i do to use the correct MAXFLOAT value? |
| 21:44.47 | BulletCatcher | See my message above from 4 minutes ago. |
| 21:48.44 | allejo | I got "3.4028234664e+38" |
| 21:48.51 | allejo | with %.10e\n |
| 21:49.42 | BulletCatcher | That is the same value that already is in include/common.h, so maybe the #undef hack is all you need. |
| 21:51.47 | allejo | debug build returns this: http://pastebin.com/T5tqgUJz |
| 21:53.48 | BulletCatcher | We'll need a Mac expert to solve that properly, but you can work around that by compiling DirectoryNames.cxx without the -Werror option. |
| 21:56.04 | BulletCatcher | The correct solution may be as simple as removing the "#elif defined(__APPLE__)" section from src/game/DirectoryNames.cxx . |
| 21:58.12 | allejo | wouldn't removing that make bz clueless on the location of the bzflag folder on a mac? |
| 21:58.35 | blast007 | no, we'd need some updated code for apple, since it goes into ~\Application Support\BZFlag\, not ~\.bzf\ |
| 21:59.09 | allejo | ~/Application Support/BZFlag/ * |
| 21:59.14 | allejo | unix is / not \ |
| 22:00.03 | BulletCatcher | Removing that #elif section would change the location to ~/.bzf just as it is on Linux. It is premature to make that change. |
| 22:01.17 | blast007 | allejo: close enough :P |
| 22:03.28 | BulletCatcher | One article I found says that NSSearchPathForDirectoriesInDomains() is the replacement for FSFindFolder() since Mac OS X 10.5. |
| 22:38.38 | trepan | http://pastebin.com/WtmiEU5k - crash in sound handling (latest trunk) |
| 22:45.46 | blast007 | trepan: what distro? |
| 22:46.38 | trepan | debian/stable |
| 22:47.33 | blast007 | and was it with SDL support? |
| 22:48.13 | trepan | good question, nope |
| 22:48.43 | blast007 | so it'd be falling back to native linux audio code, which I think uses OSS |
| 22:49.13 | blast007 | and that probably hasn't been tested much lately :) |
| 22:54.16 | trepan | should just yank it... will try with SDL |
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| 23:26.07 | khonkhortisan | my computer doesn't have oss anymore |
| 23:28.15 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: I think ALSA may have a compatibility layer for OSS |