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01:15.42khonkhortisanYou left already, but I'm using an evdev joystick instead of an sdl joystick
01:27.46khonkhortisanand the hat shows up as axes
01:36.55khonkhortisanaha! My joystick has "X, Y, Rz, Throttle, Hat0X, Hat0Y" but I only get to use "X Y Rz Throttle" because it only searches for "{ "X", "Y", "Z", "Rx", "Ry", "Rz", "Throttle", "Rudder", "Wheel" }
01:37.31khonkhortisanBut that's if I wanted to drive the tank using the hat
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04:13.40L4m3r~blast007++
04:14.49L4m3r(for being generally awesome on bzbb lately)
04:30.22I_Died_Oncehow do i give him a kudo and make that two kudos for him?
04:33.45Delusionaluse Argooon
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04:49.48khonkhortisanShould a hat be treated as an axis, so it can move the tank around, or a button, so it can shoot, or both?
04:51.04JeffMit won't have the granularity of an axis
04:51.11JeffMyou can't make a hat go half way up
04:51.14JeffMso do it as buttons
04:51.16khonkhortisanokay, so just a button
04:51.44khonkhortisanafaik linux decides it's an axis and windows decides it's a button
04:52.27JeffMwindows knows it's a "hat"
04:52.33JeffMin the native API
04:52.36JeffMand hats return angles usualy
04:53.22khonkhortisanI get an axis with the name Hat0X
04:53.24JeffMbut yes they behave like buttons since they don't work like axes
04:53.35JeffMyeah what does it return an angle?
04:54.05khonkhortisanI'm not familiar with hats returning angles. I just get two directions
04:54.19JeffMok, so they are blending it
04:54.29JeffMusualy hats can just move in a circle
04:54.34khonkhortisanHat0X and Hat0Y
04:54.54JeffMand those will always be 1 0 or -1 I guess
04:55.28khonkhortisanactually no I get -32767 0 32767 :)
04:55.30JeffMyou can turn any button based DPad into 2 axes if you do that
04:55.34JeffMok sure, max and min
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05:12.20khonkhortisanha! it now prints the u16 code of the hat in the terminal
05:16.57khonkhortisannow if I could just get the value out without segfauling...
05:19.01khonkhortisanyay!
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14:16.48AskinatorHi all
14:16.54AskinatorI am tank terminator
14:16.59Askinatori need help pls
14:17.12Askinatorhow do i compile on visual ++ 2010
14:18.30Askinatorpls pls pls reply
14:24.15AskinatorPLEAE
14:24.18AskinatorPLEASE
14:25.09blast007.....
14:25.41blast007You realize that you're really quite annoying, right?
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14:27.09Askinator...
14:27.14Askinator+o
14:27.17Askinator+b\
14:27.20Askinator+b
14:27.20blast007Askinator: 2.4.0 does not necessarily build with 2010
14:27.33Askinatorooookkkk?
14:29.00blast0072.4.0 used 2008, not 2010
14:29.18blast0072.4.1 (the dev version) now uses 2010, but I doubt you have that code
14:29.50Askinatoroh...
14:30.04Askinatorwell cant i compile a plugin like anything else in 2010?
14:30.19blast007why do you need to compile a plugin on Windows?
14:30.24blast007and what plugin is it?
14:33.43Askinatorplayhistorytracker; reason: for my server!!
14:36.47blast007we include that one WITH our installer
14:37.53Askinatorwhat do u mean?
14:38.01AskinatorIm changing it
14:38.12AskinatorSo it says other things than " is on a rampage!
14:39.32Askinatorbrb in 20 min
14:42.16spldartAnd we wait in breathless anticipation XD
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15:14.36Askinatorim back
15:16.45Askinatorso.,
15:18.56Askinatorwe weretalking abt plugins?
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15:30.56joevanothe people who were talking to you have left it would seem
15:31.47joevanoor maybe they died while holding their breath, anxiously awaiting your return
15:33.03Askinatorblast us surely not dead
15:33.16Askinatorhe wont wait for me, dsnt even care, wishes i die in the mean time :P
15:33.29Askinatorand he was the only one talking to me
15:33.48joevanohe is at work so he comes and goes, as am I
15:34.17AskinatorOk
15:34.20Askinator:)
15:34.33AskinatorI just wanted to assure you, that he isnt dead :P
15:35.58joevanoI won't be certain until he returns, he can be very committed to something once he sets his mind to it (especially holding his breath)!
15:36.13blast007Askinator: I had something more important to do then help some kid on the Internet compile a plugin for a game. :P
15:36.33AskinatorOk :P I aint forcin you :)
15:36.35joevanoblast007: you're not dead... I am so releived
15:37.01AskinatorAnyways if he WAS dead, i would kill mysled too , and stay a pain in his a** :P
15:37.07Askinatorsry for langbtw
15:37.21blast007what makes you think you'd go to the same place?  :P
15:38.15joevanoAskinator: to get back on topic... your host runs windows?
15:38.23AskinatorHeh
15:38.39blast007Askinator: here's how to build the plugin
15:38.39AskinatorOh, my host :/
15:38.46AskinatorOk?
15:39.02blast007"Hey <insert host here>, build this plugin for me!"
15:39.18joevanocompiling a plugin on windows will do nothing if you are going to use it on a linux server
15:39.59joevanoand honestly I don't know anyone running a serios map on windows
15:40.05Askinatorblast007: LOL!
15:40.13blast007Askinator: you think I'm joking
15:40.18Askinatorjoevano: well, anyways, bzaddict
15:40.24blast007they use linux, not Windows
15:40.26Askinatorblast007: no, but funny ;|P
15:40.43blast007yeah, lulz, and such
15:41.11AskinatorOh so i tell allejo to put it in my order?
15:41.20Askinatoror that'll count as a custom plugin?
15:41.39blast007I think he also charges $10 to compile, and $1 per line modified
15:41.41joevanodon't know... you need to ask him
15:41.54blast007so you're probably looking at around $20
15:42.05AskinatorNo, its fo free
15:42.13Askinatorthat what says in da website
15:42.40joevanowe use real words here... your keyboard has all the letters
15:43.21blast007the hosting is free.  but you want extras.  there's also the license fee, taxes, interest, costs to send data over-seas (it costs more to send IP packets long-distance), etc
15:43.59blast007and don't forget that adding more data to his server makes it heavier, so he may have to buy a stronger rack mount to hold it up
15:46.26AskinatorWOAAHHHH
15:46.45AskinatorOk OK, i'd rather not add anything now :P
15:47.00AskinatorAnyone seen easy tank lately?
15:48.31blast007last I heard, easy tank was buying stronger floorboards for under his computer because he put so much data on it that the floor was starting to fall in.
15:50.37blast007Askinator: did you not know that hard drives get heavier when they get filled with data??
15:52.25mdskpraskinator, are you sure that your plugin is not already on this list?  http://bzaddict.net/plugins/list_of_plugins.txt
15:52.38AskinatorYes.
15:52.54mdskprWhat plugin are you trying to compile?
15:52.59AskinatorTo blast --> yes
15:53.01Askinatornnot u :P
15:53.13blast007Askinator: so you knew the drives get heavier?
15:53.18AskinatorYes.
15:53.28blast007mdskpr: he wants a modified plugin
15:53.29AskinatorIt IS in the list :P
15:53.32mdskproh :s
15:53.32Askinatornno
15:53.34Askinatorohh
15:53.35Askinatoryes
15:53.40Askinatorbut it is in the list
15:53.47Askinatorwell
15:53.49Askinatorno :P
15:53.55blast007Askinator: also, make sure to buy hard drive grease
15:54.06Askinator...
15:54.06joevanook... this isn't AIM...
15:54.29blast007Askinator: and when you have a car, you also want to keep a gallon or two of headlamp fluid in the trunk in case you run out!
15:54.51joevanoAskinator: think about your response before typing it and be to the point
15:54.59Askinatorblast, don't you realize ur dull?
15:55.04AskinatorOk.
15:55.08AskinatorOk joe
15:55.18blast007Askinator: what do you mean "dull"?
15:57.00joevanoblast007 is always the life of the party around here
15:57.12blast007yeah, I bring the cake!
15:57.31AskinatorI know, but.. NEVERMIND
15:57.31joevanoshhh... the cake is a lie
15:57.36Askinatorlol
15:57.50AskinatorBlast is our favorite player over here!!
15:57.57Askinatorwhat shall we do without you
15:57.59blast007player?
15:58.09AskinatorLLOLLL
15:58.12blast007are you implying that I actually play BZFlag?  :P
15:58.16Askinator:P
15:58.28AskinatorWell, what other word can i say about, im bzaddicted now :P
15:58.43blast007I used to play BZFlag, but then I took an arrow to the tread.
15:59.15Askinatorblast, what do u work?
15:59.23blast007yes
15:59.37Askinatoryes, is what you work?
15:59.48blast007yes, I work
15:59.58AskinatorWhat is your work?
16:00.05AskinatorOh, i have a question
16:00.06blast007banning noobs is part of it
16:00.10Askinatormdskpr
16:00.20Askinatorasked me about ma plugin in the list
16:00.38Askinatorso i can order these plugins and they wont count as custom ones?
16:01.14blast007Askinator: and you realize that everything I said about fees and "hard drives are heavier when you add data" is not true, right?  :P
16:01.31AskinatorYOU DONT SAY?
16:01.36Askinatorlol
16:01.38blast007no, I do say!
16:01.50AskinatorNo, you dont say!
16:01.56blast007but I just said it
16:01.56joevanoand thot we are not bzaddict.net so anything we tell you may not be true
16:02.10AskinatorI knwo that
16:02.12Askinatorknow*
16:02.17blast007you have to ask your host questions about their hosting, NOT use
16:02.19blast007us*
16:02.31blast007so have a good day, goodbye
16:02.38AskinatorOk?
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16:03.27*** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.42.*] by blast007
16:03.34I_Died_Onceyou know who 'dat was, right?
16:03.39blast007TT
16:03.45I_Died_Onceyup
16:03.47blast007I just like to play with my food
16:04.01I_Died_Oncerecognizes the first two parts of 'da IP addy
16:04.18I_Died_Once"Hey, haven't I banned that ISP before?"
16:04.23blast007it's pretty hard to not recognize him
16:04.37I_Died_Oncei just sat down and got home as he was leafing
16:04.49I_Died_Oncehad to scroll up and look at the ip info to be sure
16:05.04I_Died_Onceleafing // leaving
16:07.25I_Died_Oncei tend to remember ip addresses of those who manage to evade bans
16:10.46mdskprblast007, the TT you banned yesterday had an IP that started with 94, this one had 77....proxy?
16:18.59blast007nope, just an ISP with multiple netblocks
16:19.23blast007I_Died_Once: well, he said said "I am tank terminator" when he joined
16:19.32blast007he also said*
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16:40.54I_Died_Oncenah i didnt read the whole convo
16:41.09I_Died_Oncei'm guilty just like he is i reckon
16:41.12I_Died_Oncenot reading and all
16:41.17I_Died_Once;)
16:51.24blast007TL;DR
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21:14.26allejogreat, now Tank Terminator is going to start bugging me. this is the first I hear of BZAddict hosting his map…
21:44.41blast007lol
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