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| 00:01.17 | Delusional | First try to open it was a nogo, added copies of all the assemblies to the editor/bin/debug dir, then it opened and asked for a location of resources.... I don't think i picked the right location |
| 00:01.33 | Delusional | tried to recompile, now OpenTK is missing gain |
| 00:01.40 | jeffm | it wants to know where the base data file |
| 00:01.46 | jeffm | folder |
| 00:05.21 | Delusional | I can't recover to the point where it asks for that location again |
| 00:06.17 | jeffm | it saved your response in a config file |
| 00:17.15 | jeffm | looks like it'll put it's configs in USER/.config/opencombat/ |
| 00:19.01 | Delusional | heh, i screwed it up good now, might get new svn and try the xbuild method instead of monodev |
| 00:19.06 | McSpider | shouldn't that be changed to ~/library/opencombat ? |
| 00:19.27 | jeffm | thats just where mono wants to put it's stuff |
| 00:19.34 | jeffm | it tells me what the "user dir" is |
| 00:19.52 | McSpider | mhmm, just as long as it doesnt overwrite the .config folder :) |
| 00:19.53 | jeffm | but it would not be hard to change that for mac specific stuff |
| 00:20.07 | jeffm | mono made the open combat folder |
| 00:20.11 | jeffm | it bases it on app data |
| 00:20.18 | jeffm | then it makes a dir for each app |
| 00:21.41 | jeffm | but it'd probably be good to use the mac specific ones, cus it doesn't find the "common user" folder ether |
| 00:22.51 | jeffm | all my paths are controlled by a single class in FolderLocations so it should not be hard to tweak it as needed |
| 00:27.03 | Delusional | monodev keeps losing openTK |
| 00:27.25 | jeffm | are you copying it to the debug folders or MOVING it to them? |
| 00:27.32 | jeffm | I moved it by accident a couple times |
| 00:27.58 | Delusional | evey debug folder needs a copy of every assembly? |
| 00:28.07 | jeffm | yes |
| 00:28.19 | jeffm | unless you register them with mono |
| 00:31.53 | Delusional | im going back to modeling, at least i was making some progress there |
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| 12:38.55 | kierra | Happy Birthday, brlcad. Hope you have a great day!!!!!! |
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| 17:03.50 | CIA-104 | opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r196 10/trunk/unit0/client/Game/ClientGame.Input.cs: remove the debug ray input system, we can use the tank for collision testing. |
| 17:12.20 | CIA-104 | opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r197 10/trunk/unit0/client/ (3 files in 2 dirs): when in driving mode, let the right drag rotate the camera around the player model to help modelers see all the sides. Use Home Key to reset rotation to 0 |
| 17:12.34 | JeffM | Delusional, that should help you see around the model |
| 17:26.02 | CIA-104 | opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r198 10/trunk/unit0/ (5 files in 4 dirs): let script define more info for how the model should be drawn, like if Z or Y is "up" |
| 17:26.37 | JeffM | and that should let you use your Z is up model |
| 18:03.07 | Delusional | I'm not going to attempt a recompile right now. The thing about me and compiling, Once anything goes wrong, I'm completely lost. I might have to start over. |
| 18:03.18 | Delusional | finish this model a bit more first |
| 18:03.51 | JeffM | heh |
| 18:04.13 | JeffM | I'll see if I can make a script that will let you run a premade bin |
| 18:04.39 | Delusional | in other news, a CD was edging under the leg of my chair, and when i stood up, it flipped like a tiddly wink. |
| 18:05.24 | JeffM | scare you? |
| 18:06.11 | Delusional | made me think of being in my grandmother's basement as a kid. So yeah, a little scary |
| 18:07.19 | Delusional | since she gave the house to her sister when she died.... I'm willing to bet that tiddly wink game is still there. |
| 18:09.27 | Delusional | when I do compile, do you want me to gontinue with monodevelop.app, or move to the xbuild method? |
| 18:10.06 | JeffM | whatever works for you |
| 18:10.14 | JeffM | they should produce the same results |
| 18:10.43 | Delusional | i think xbuild will be easier in the long run |
| 18:11.02 | JeffM | they both call the same compiler |
| 18:11.23 | JeffM | you just have to set an environment variable, or register openTK and IronPython |
| 18:26.26 | JeffM | I'm uploading a bin to try on mac now, it runs with shell scripts on linux just fine |
| 18:26.42 | JeffM | and here is a video that shows rotating the camera, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEq00nx6msM |
| 18:27.36 | Delusional | where did you get that model? |
| 18:27.55 | JeffM | I purchased it |
| 18:28.04 | JeffM | sadly I can't actualy use it in game |
| 18:28.07 | JeffM | not open source |
| 18:28.16 | JeffM | cus it's kinda badass |
| 18:28.37 | Delusional | i've done that on occasion. We'll come up with something decent. |
| 18:28.49 | JeffM | I'm sure we will |
| 18:29.26 | Delusional | i hope i dont say "that's really nice,..... but...." |
| 18:32.17 | JeffM | ok |
| 18:32.18 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/unit0/Unit04-29-12.tar.bz2 |
| 18:32.24 | JeffM | that has 2 shell scripts |
| 18:32.30 | JeffM | one for server, one for client |
| 18:32.39 | JeffM | they run on linux and mac |
| 18:34.02 | Delusional | alright, gimme a few hrs |
| 18:36.24 | JeffM | oh no rush |
| 18:36.29 | Delusional | err, they don't help compile |
| 18:36.46 | JeffM | you don't have to compile with this, it's a premade bin |
| 18:36.50 | Delusional | ah |
| 18:37.00 | JeffM | just run the scripts and it'll go |
| 18:37.19 | JeffM | at some point I'll hook up automatic updates then you'll just get new code as we publish it |
| 18:37.21 | JeffM | no building :) |
| 18:38.43 | JeffM | at some point it will be bundled in a .app for mac people to just click |
| 18:40.40 | Delusional | server seems to have crashed, but client fully connected and is moving around. |
| 18:40.53 | Delusional | but I can't add models to a premade bin |
| 18:41.08 | JeffM | did you edit the script? |
| 18:41.12 | Delusional | no |
| 18:41.25 | JeffM | you have to edit the script to tell the client what to load |
| 18:42.49 | JeffM | edit server_data/test/client/Game.py |
| 18:42.59 | JeffM | and change the paths it uses |
| 18:43.15 | JeffM | and for you, you probalby want to set YIsUp to False |
| 18:44.15 | Delusional | ok, i can do that |
| 18:44.27 | Delusional | game.py |
| 18:44.44 | JeffM | in the client, not the server :) |
| 18:48.04 | Delusional | this one texture per tank thing is gonna kill me |
| 18:53.33 | Delusional | this one texture per tank thing is killing me |
| 19:00.18 | Delusional | I guess there won't be anything like wheels or treads tha appear to rotate? or do you have a plan for that? |
| 19:27.07 | JeffM | Delusional, eventualy the script will tell the game what parts do what |
| 19:27.16 | JeffM | wheels, treads, turrets, etc.. |
| 19:27.24 | JeffM | and how many models will be up to the game script |
| 19:27.51 | JeffM | it's design supports asking the client to fill out a set of options for what it wants to join as, team, model, class etc.. |
| 19:28.07 | JeffM | and as for flag, flags are for CTF |
| 19:28.13 | JeffM | flags are not guns |
| 19:28.25 | JeffM | when you want to pick up a gun, you pick up gun ;) |
| 19:28.49 | JeffM | it'll all be difined by the scripts, what each pickup does |
| 19:30.02 | blast007 | there's advantages and disadvantages to customization. I think BZFlag's issue with customization is that you never know what was customized until you play on a server and find out the hard warey (short of doing a /diff to see the BZDB settings) |
| 19:30.14 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:30.16 | blast007 | way* |
| 19:30.29 | JeffM | the scripts will need to be able to provide clear descriptions of what they are doing |
| 19:30.33 | JeffM | they will have limits |
| 19:31.33 | JeffM | probably have them define tool tips for players too, so you can get mini tutorials on the changes while playing |
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| 19:54.49 | Delusional | so the tank models... you'll have server defined tank models... and possibly players who will design models and submit them.... you should try to make it easy on them. maybe if there was something like a "magic material name" they could have treads and wheels that appear to spin. |
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| 19:55.40 | JeffM | Delusional, if it gets that far we'll make a tool to help define the model parts |
| 19:55.48 | JeffM | or make that part of the editor |
| 19:56.00 | JeffM | "Magic" names are lame |
| 19:56.13 | JeffM | better to give them a visual editor that lets them set all metadata |
| 19:56.19 | Delusional | i want seperate material for treads and tank body |
| 19:56.32 | JeffM | right now it draws very simple things |
| 19:56.37 | JeffM | it's a test app, not a final game |
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| 23:53.51 | joevano | Happy Birthday, brlcad |