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| 01:35.42 | ts3d | Jeff: I got a question about storing game input events. |
| 01:36.57 | ts3d | Say the user hit the up arrow, then the down arrow, then up again, all within between simulation steps. Should I use the last state for my physics? |
| 01:39.14 | JeffM | ts3d, process all 3 |
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| 01:53.37 | ts3d | I have a bit more to ask on this but I have to go. Talk to you later. |
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| 02:03.19 | Propane_Tank | blast007 or anyone that knows. does each apache vhost need it's own ssl key pair? right now i have just one .pem and .key for all my ssl enabled vhosts, but i wonder if thats not messing it up? I did a clean install and its working fine until i added another ssl enabled vhost and now it's serving the wrong site to the wrong servername |
| 02:04.03 | blast007 | generally an SSL certificate is associated with a single hostname |
| 02:04.11 | blast007 | unless it's a wildcard or multi-domain |
| 02:05.15 | Propane_Tank | i think i made the common name hostedfree.net, but i can recreate some ssl keys tho. |
| 02:05.30 | Propane_Tank | i guess i don't remember how i set them up. |
| 02:05.34 | JeffM | is it self signed or did you buy it? |
| 02:05.46 | JeffM | cus the wildcards usualy cost more |
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| 02:08.42 | Propane_Tank | self signed. i'm too poor to purchase ssl certificates |
| 02:09.16 | Propane_Tank | it's only for my own benifit anyways, so it'd also be a wast of money. i use ssl for phpmyadmin and my stats site |
| 02:09.49 | Propane_Tank | i don't think rewrite is working... http://minecraft.hostedfree.net |
| 02:16.46 | blast007 | Propane_Tank: you can get SSL certificates for $10 |
| 02:17.00 | Propane_Tank | why buy when i can make them for free? |
| 02:17.12 | blast007 | $9, even: http://www.namecheap.com/ssl-certificates/comodo.aspx |
| 02:17.21 | Propane_Tank | if i was selling stuff, then i'd buy for customer assuance, but with only be at advantage here, free is better |
| 02:17.32 | blast007 | guess it depends what you're doing |
| 02:17.49 | blast007 | is this just for you to access? |
| 02:17.50 | Propane_Tank | yea, i only want ssl for phpmyadmin for sure and i have it setup on my stats site |
| 02:17.57 | blast007 | phpmyadmin ...... |
| 02:18.00 | Propane_Tank | so yea, only me |
| 02:18.14 | blast007 | you have a publically accessable phpmyadmin? |
| 02:18.42 | Propane_Tank | i've always wondered, for the state or province name, should i use where i'm at or the server is at? |
| 02:19.20 | blast007 | regarding that minecraft site, did you copy the .htaccess file from the old server? |
| 02:19.42 | Propane_Tank | i never moved anything |
| 02:19.50 | JeffM | you don't httaccess the phpymadmin? |
| 02:19.50 | blast007 | you said you did a clean install |
| 02:19.52 | Propane_Tank | i just reinstalled apache from scratch |
| 02:19.58 | JeffM | smells tacos |
| 02:19.59 | Propane_Tank | it kept my /var/www |
| 02:20.02 | blast007 | k |
| 02:20.16 | Propane_Tank | and modrewrite is enabled |
| 02:21.04 | blast007 | well, in any case, http://httpd.apache.org/support.html |
| 02:21.25 | blast007 | let me know when you run out of tacos |
| 02:23.00 | blast007 | JeffM: I don't even bother running phpmyadmin anymore, at least not on a production system |
| 02:23.19 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:23.24 | JeffM | I use webmin on dev |
| 02:23.25 | blast007 | locally, sure - then I just dump the database and import it manually on the server |
| 02:23.32 | JeffM | then just give IT sql files |
| 02:23.39 | blast007 | webmin is worse than phpmyadmin ;) |
| 02:23.50 | blast007 | when that gets hacked, they have your whole box, not just MySQL |
| 02:24.59 | JeffM | our dev systems are on not on the interwebs |
| 02:25.20 | blast007 | yah, I just mean in general |
| 02:25.43 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:25.57 | JeffM | production should just be the site :) |
| 02:26.47 | blast007 | I don't even bother with a firewall now, since there's nothing listening publically that shouldn't be accessible |
| 02:28.39 | blast007 | hey, why is my mouse moving by itself! |
| 02:29.34 | Propane_Tank | going back to minecraft site, rewrite isn't the issue. i just remembered my blog using wp also and that works fine |
| 02:29.52 | blast007 | Propane_Tank: and really, you don't need SSL for what you're doing. Just set up those vhosts to only listen on 127.0.0.1, and access it via an SSH tunnel + a local hosts file. |
| 02:30.14 | Propane_Tank | i changed the port for the me stuff |
| 02:30.20 | blast007 | AllowOverride set up properly for that vhost? |
| 02:30.44 | Propane_Tank | good thinking. used to it just working. i moved to the httpd.conf method |
| 02:31.00 | blast007 | httpd.conf? |
| 02:31.02 | Propane_Tank | so half the options aren't there and options +indexes is set by defaukt |
| 02:31.13 | Propane_Tank | yea, not the sites-enabled stuff |
| 02:31.17 | blast007 | wtf |
| 02:31.29 | blast007 | why on earth would you do that? |
| 02:31.34 | Propane_Tank | why not? |
| 02:31.39 | Propane_Tank | works better i think |
| 02:31.41 | blast007 | ... |
| 02:31.42 | JeffM | cus he don't know what he's doing |
| 02:32.02 | blast007 | it works worse |
| 02:32.21 | blast007 | you lose the ability to individually enable/disable specific sites without commenting stuff out |
| 02:32.40 | blast007 | and you don't modify sites-enabled directly |
| 02:33.01 | blast007 | you put stuff in sites-available and use a2ensite and a2dissite to enable/disable the available sites |
| 02:33.30 | Propane_Tank | but then i have that wildcard domain setup too |
| 02:33.37 | blast007 | so? |
| 02:33.40 | Propane_Tank | iudk |
| 02:33.42 | Propane_Tank | idk* |
| 02:33.48 | JeffM | that's just vhost |
| 02:34.09 | blast007 | Propane_Tank: and again, http://httpd.apache.org/support.html |
| 02:34.25 | JeffM | yeah you may want to learn more about how apache works |
| 02:34.29 | JeffM | and what accepted practices are |
| 02:34.56 | JeffM | otherwise you may let yourself get oppened to security issues |
| 02:35.04 | blast007 | dunno if the a2* commands are debian specific or not |
| 02:35.33 | JeffM | I use them on debian |
| 02:35.38 | JeffM | and ubuntu |
| 02:35.57 | blast007 | yeah, dunno if they're in, say, something redhate based |
| 02:36.11 | JeffM | I would think they would be, they are super handy |
| 02:37.04 | blast007 | RPM hell is a real place, and you will be sent there at the first sign of package dependency. |
| 02:38.15 | JeffM | you monster |
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| 15:33.20 | Quol | JeffM: just curious here, can one use the express versions with any of the BZ projects, or do people always use the real VS versions? (I have the full VS 2010 - so it makes no difference for me, just curious) |
| 15:33.47 | JeffM | we don't build with 2010, but yeah express works the same as retail |
| 15:33.57 | JeffM | we should run fine in express 2008 |
| 15:34.25 | Quol | ya - noticed all the projects were 2008, everytime I open them up the converter wizard thing comes up |
| 15:34.38 | JeffM | yeah and there will be code problems |
| 15:34.47 | JeffM | 2010 uses a newer standard for C++ |
| 15:35.21 | JeffM | I have not been able to get bzflag proper to build and run under 2010 |
| 15:39.55 | Quol | hmm, that's good to know. For the collector: you forsee any issues if I stick to 2008 express? or would you recommend I stick with retail VS? now that work is calming down, I will start looking into the date issues with the stats site (store all dates in GMT in DB and modify web site/javascript) |
| 15:40.17 | JeffM | the compilers between retail and express are the same |
| 15:40.26 | JeffM | so it dosn't matter |
| 15:40.36 | JeffM | the collector should be fine in 2010 |
| 15:41.19 | Quol | ya it is, I converted it, and all is well, but just didn't want to commit that way without talking to you, and if everything else is 2008...I thought it makes sense to keep it that way |
| 15:42.04 | Quol | in fact the Collector.exe on your server was built with 2010 :) |
| 15:42.19 | JeffM | I tend to use 10 when I can |
| 15:42.46 | JeffM | gahhh. who put an and or into the code again!!!! |
| 15:44.51 | Quol | so, do you have any objections if I convert the Collector project to 2010, make the changes and commit that way? if not, I will just do that...that way I don't have to install 2008 (at work we just use 2010, and now we are testing 11) |
| 15:45.06 | JeffM | go for it |
| 15:45.10 | Quol | k |
| 15:45.11 | Quol | thx |
| 15:45.57 | JeffM | who is jwmelto? |
| 15:49.40 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22451 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/sound.cxx: remove and, or, and not and replace with && || and ! to be like the rest of the code and make it work on windows. |
| 15:51.39 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22452 10/trunk/bzflag/DEVINFO: Mention operator consistency, not that anyone ever reads this file. |
| 15:56.12 | BulletCatcher | jwmelto == Flash |
| 15:56.20 | JeffM | k |
| 15:56.32 | JeffM | I'll let him know to review the devinfo |
| 15:56.59 | BulletCatcher | He is idling here, and may see the highlight. |
| 15:57.03 | JeffM | even if we could use and and or I think we should be consistent in it's useage |
| 15:58.21 | BulletCatcher | The most important thing is to support compilers that are actually in use. |
| 15:58.33 | BulletCatcher | So for now, we use the classic operators. |
| 15:58.58 | JeffM | I think they just make the code longer |
| 16:01.16 | BulletCatcher | So do comments. ;-) |
| 16:03.21 | JeffM | most code with good variable and function names don't need comments :) |
| 16:05.00 | JeffM | man... ares and curl are warning machines in 2010 |
| 16:09.19 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22453 10/trunk/bzflag/include/network.h: don't define things if they are already defined. |
| 16:09.44 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22454 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/base64.h: iterator is no longer automatically included in many of the std headers. |
| 16:10.16 | blast007 | JeffM: could we define 'and', 'or', and 'not' macros and make them do the opposite? :P |
| 16:10.31 | JeffM | blast007, yeah cus THAT would make debuging fun :) |
| 16:10.35 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 16:11.32 | blast007 | wonder if there's some build flag for gcc that would disallow those. or is that part of a newer C++ standard? |
| 16:11.39 | JeffM | are there word versions of bitwise and and or? |
| 16:11.47 | JeffM | it's part of the newer standards |
| 16:11.54 | JeffM | 2010 probalby supports it |
| 16:11.59 | joevano | if you don't make mistakes you never have to debug;1 yeah, I'm solutions guy! |
| 16:12.44 | JeffM | do all linux versions use the most current GCC? |
| 16:13.06 | JeffM | or at least ones that have C++11 support? |
| 16:13.25 | blast007 | "all linux versions" is rather vague ;) |
| 16:13.39 | JeffM | the linux distrobutions we want to support and sup under |
| 16:13.43 | JeffM | ship not sup |
| 16:17.25 | BulletCatcher | The latest GCC is 4.7.0, and Fedora 16 (latest Fedora release) includes 4.6.3. |
| 16:19.06 | blast007 | http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html |
| 16:19.21 | BulletCatcher | I still have a Solaris 10 server with gcc 3.4.3. |
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| 16:21.57 | BulletCatcher | So I prefer to avoid C++11 features for the foreseeable future. |
| 16:36.41 | blast007 | JeffM: from what I can tell, his commit also introduced the first 'try/catch' in the game code. |
| 16:36.50 | JeffM | good |
| 16:36.56 | JeffM | those are good things |
| 16:38.04 | blast007 | k, was just noting it. On Linux, exceptions had been explicitly disabled via a build flag. |
| 16:38.16 | JeffM | yeah and I questioned that :) |
| 16:38.32 | JeffM | something about it being faster by a plank time |
| 16:38.44 | blast007 | okay, couldn't remember who it was that pointed that out :) |
| 16:39.35 | blast007 | just wasn't sure if there was a specific reason we hadn't used them (and had them turned off in *nix builds) |
| 16:39.59 | JeffM | good thing GCC isn't warning about type safety, otherwise you'd never get a debug build out of it |
| 16:45.58 | blast007 | ah, nice one google. "We're sorry, but your Gmail account is temporarily unavailable ..." with a "Show Detailed Technical Info". So I click that, and I get "Numeric Code: 93". So. Much. Detail. |
| 16:58.51 | JeffM | may have bz building in 2010 |
| 17:01.23 | blast007 | hrm, can't even load the gmail support group :P |
| 17:04.44 | blast007 | ah, finally their status page reflects there's an issue with gmail |
| 17:07.16 | JeffM | can someone else please try this? http://burst2.opencombat.net/temp/bzflag-2.4.1_32Bit_VC10.exe |
| 17:08.40 | blast007 | should it be on a system without Visual Studio? |
| 17:08.57 | JeffM | it's a release build |
| 17:09.04 | JeffM | it will install the runtimes if they are not there |
| 17:09.23 | joevano | it installs... |
| 17:09.31 | blast007 | what I mean is.. it would be a better test on a system without Visual Studio, correct? ;) |
| 17:09.31 | JeffM | does it run? |
| 17:09.37 | JeffM | blast007, sure |
| 17:09.56 | JeffM | but having vc is not the only way to have the runtimes |
| 17:10.06 | joevano | seems to... testing now |
| 17:10.08 | blast007 | true |
| 17:10.31 | joevano | downloading world... |
| 17:11.01 | blast007 | huh, mine says "reticulating splines" |
| 17:11.24 | joevano | runs appocolypse (sp?) just fine in a VM |
| 17:12.16 | JeffM | now the fun of updating all the plugins :( |
| 17:12.40 | blast007 | oh, yeah, have fun with that |
| 17:12.54 | blast007 | I suppose I should pick up a copy of 2010 now.. |
| 17:12.56 | JeffM | it's just all the .sln files |
| 17:13.03 | JeffM | express should work |
| 17:13.19 | blast007 | yeah, but I'm wanting the full one anyway for other stuff |
| 17:13.32 | blast007 | full one has more templates, like, for windows services and installers |
| 17:15.54 | JeffM | is fairCTF being built by default on linux? |
| 17:16.24 | blast007 | yep |
| 17:16.35 | JeffM | it was never added to fullbuild |
| 17:16.49 | blast007 | seems like everything except pushstats and webReport is built by default |
| 17:19.45 | BulletCatcher | plugins added since the 2.4.0 release: fastmap, fairCTF, autoFlagReset. |
| 17:23.14 | JeffM | k, got them |
| 17:24.48 | JeffM | yay, I'm down to the Ns |
| 17:33.17 | JeffM | wow. thief controll is still VC 7.1 |
| 17:34.00 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:43.35 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22455 10/trunk/bzflag/ (178 files in 35 dirs): update project to VC10 |
| 17:44.37 | JeffM | I think I got everything |
| 17:48.42 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22456 10/trunk/bzflag/README.WINDOWS: |
| 17:48.42 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: change references of VC9 to 10 |
| 17:48.42 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: remove section on configuring direct X since that isn't needed anymore. |
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| 18:59.02 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22457 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/flagStay/Makefile.am: .vcproj -> .vcxproj in one Makefile.am missed in r22455. |
| 18:59.45 | JeffM | so close! |
| 19:00.02 | BulletCatcher | Yup. You would have caught it if you could test. |
| 19:00.40 | JeffM | I have yet to get a make dist to work on my VM |
| 19:02.02 | BulletCatcher | Does plain "make" work? |
| 19:02.06 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:02.29 | JeffM | the dist stuff was always failing in curl for me |
| 19:02.40 | JeffM | I can try again |
| 19:03.01 | BulletCatcher | Do you have the curl development package installed? |
| 19:03.11 | JeffM | probably |
| 19:03.33 | BulletCatcher | README.Linux says it is called libcurl3-dev. |
| 19:03.49 | blast007 | heh, they even proliferated that extra 'x' into the VS stuff now? docx, xlsx, ..., vcxproj? |
| 19:05.19 | JeffM | Note, selecting 'libcurl4-openssl-dev' instead of 'libcurl3-dev' |
| 19:05.19 | JeffM | libcurl4-openssl-dev is already the newest version. |
| 19:05.34 | BulletCatcher | That should be good enough. |
| 19:05.35 | JeffM | that's what my system says when I try to install libcurl3-dev |
| 19:05.57 | BulletCatcher | Try "make dist-bzip2", which works for me. |
| 19:06.12 | JeffM | I'm doing a normal make now to ensure that my svn up is good |
| 19:06.16 | JeffM | then I'll try that |
| 19:06.18 | BulletCatcher | It creates only the .tar.bz2 and not the others. |
| 19:08.00 | JeffM | 4 line paste incoming. |
| 19:08.01 | JeffM | make[4]: Entering directory `/home/jeffm/bzflag/src/other/curl/docs' |
| 19:08.01 | JeffM | groff -Thtml -man curl.1 > curl.html |
| 19:08.01 | JeffM | groff: can't find `DESC' file |
| 19:08.01 | JeffM | groff:fatal error: invalid device `html' (try installing the `groff' package?) |
| 19:08.29 | BulletCatcher | I recommend installing groff. :-p |
| 19:08.48 | JeffM | wasn't mentioned in the readme :) |
| 19:09.17 | JeffM | unless I missed it |
| 19:09.28 | blast007 | it was mentioned in the error output though ;) |
| 19:09.41 | JeffM | who reads linux errors |
| 19:09.43 | BulletCatcher | It isn't in any README. |
| 19:09.47 | JeffM | I though it had spelled my name wrong |
| 19:10.06 | BulletCatcher | lol |
| 19:11.00 | JeffM | man the output of make so friggin cryptic |
| 19:11.04 | JeffM | I have no idea if it worked or not |
| 19:11.13 | JeffM | a nice "package was made at...." would be nice :) |
| 19:11.29 | BulletCatcher | It succeeded if the exit status was zero. |
| 19:11.55 | BulletCatcher | Just run it again to see if it still reports errors. |
| 19:11.56 | JeffM | the last line in the output is this, { test ! -d "bzflag-2.4.1" || { find "bzflag-2.4.1" -type d ! -perm -200 -exec chmod u+w {} ';' && rm -fr "bzflag-2.4.1"; }; } |
| 19:12.01 | JeffM | it made the file |
| 19:12.02 | JeffM | I checked |
| 19:12.11 | JeffM | I'm just sayin from a user experience standpoint :) |
| 19:12.19 | BulletCatcher | Welcome to unix. |
| 19:12.39 | JeffM | I am pretty sure the makefile can putput a "it worked" message ;) |
| 19:13.03 | JeffM | I mean I could make a windows app that gives that kinda output, but I don't |
| 19:13.11 | BulletCatcher | I use "make && echo Success" in my build script for that very reason. |
| 19:13.46 | blast007 | make && echo Huge Success! |
| 19:13.53 | JeffM | testing the zip file on windows now to see if I missed anything |
| 19:14.49 | JeffM | besides a FABILION warnings |
| 19:16.41 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22458 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/fullbuild.sln: Fix dependency issues on koth and airspawn |
| 19:17.56 | BulletCatcher | There are references to .vcproj files in MSVC/build/bzadmin.sln, too. |
| 19:18.07 | JeffM | ohh ok, I missed that then |
| 19:18.33 | BulletCatcher | Also: tools/TextTool-W32/TextTool.sln & tools/modeltool/vc9/modeltool.sln |
| 19:18.38 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22459 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/fullbuild.sln: installer is dependent on all plugins. |
| 19:18.56 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22460 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/bzadmin.sln: upgrade standadlone bzadmin sln to VC10 |
| 19:19.03 | JeffM | those arn't actualy upgraded |
| 19:19.06 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 19:19.11 | JeffM | they don't have to be, but I'll do em |
| 19:19.33 | JeffM | heh, the VC6 files are still in text tool |
| 19:20.02 | BulletCatcher | Don't forget to change the Makefile.am files when you rename .vcproj to .vcxproj . |
| 19:20.11 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:20.20 | JeffM | those are the only 2 left I think |
| 19:20.26 | JeffM | I have to remove some other files too |
| 19:25.30 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22461 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (7 files in 3 dirs): upgrade model tool to VC10 |
| 19:26.39 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22462 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/TextTool-W32/ (Makefile.am TextTool.dsp TextTool.dsw): remove VC 6 files they are so 20th century |
| 19:27.36 | JeffM | of course text tool dosn't actyaly LINK in vc10..... |
| 19:43.02 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22463 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:43.02 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: upgrade text tool to VC9 since that's the last rev I can get it to work in. |
| 19:43.02 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: restore the vc9 zlib since text tool needs it. |
| 19:43.27 | blast007 | read "restore" as "redstone" ... too. much. minecraft. |
| 19:48.16 | JeffM | hmm what did I screw up in model tool |
| 19:49.06 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22464 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: vc9 was renamed to msvc for model tool |
| 19:58.44 | JeffM | there we go |
| 19:59.03 | JeffM | that now builds on windows from the zip made by make dist |
| 20:00.05 | JeffM | tag it, bump the rev and ship it! |
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| 22:36.17 | JeffM | yay, cpu temp is no longer 98deg. |
| 22:38.00 | ts3d | Why was it so high? |
| 22:38.41 | JeffM | busted cpu cooler |
| 22:46.30 | ts3d | How are you storing your input events for replay? |
| 22:46.36 | JeffM | in a list |
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| 22:50.27 | ts3d | I'm overthinking this. How and should I stored all my events of different types in a list in c++? |
| 22:50.51 | JeffM | what do you mean "of different types?"? |
| 22:51.12 | JeffM | an STL list is a doubly linkied list, it'll work fine for storage |
| 22:51.37 | ts3d | different class types derived from a base type |
| 22:51.49 | ts3d | Or should I go another route? |
| 22:51.54 | JeffM | why do you need or have more then one event |
| 22:51.58 | JeffM | other then "I moved" |
| 22:52.38 | JeffM | but if you need to make a list of smart pointers to the base object |
| 22:52.44 | JeffM | then just shove em in |
| 22:57.15 | JeffM | what derived classes do you have now? forward, turn, jump? that kinda stuff? |
| 22:58.24 | ts3d | No, more like events across my engine subsystems. I'm going for an event oriented system instead of the traditional callback hell. |
| 22:58.44 | JeffM | my simulation system has few callbacks |
| 22:58.47 | JeffM | not for movement |
| 22:58.56 | JeffM | but for simulation you only need movement |
| 22:59.11 | ts3d | I realize now that I don't really need to cache the events for all those systems. |
| 22:59.17 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:59.23 | ts3d | I can just cache the input and work off the last good state. |
| 22:59.34 | JeffM | does your base event class have a member that is the event type? |
| 23:00.04 | ts3d | You know I was/am doing that. But I think i'm going to change that. |
| 23:00.30 | JeffM | if it does then just make a std::list of smart pointers of your base class type |
| 23:00.37 | JeffM | then you can shove in pointers to your derived classes |
| 23:00.51 | JeffM | then when you read them out of the list, check the type in the base class and cast to the right type |
| 23:01.09 | JeffM | that's what I'm doing for messages |
| 23:01.18 | ts3d | Yeah. My though exactly the casting just seems 'dirty' |
| 23:01.23 | ts3d | thoguht* |
| 23:01.25 | JeffM | naw |
| 23:01.27 | ts3d | thought* |
| 23:01.40 | JeffM | it ain't as slick as reflection but it's what you got |
| 23:02.15 | JeffM | you are casting due to the limits of your container |
| 23:02.20 | JeffM | and that's just required |
| 23:02.34 | JeffM | it's just a pointer, the compiler will optimize it out |
| 23:03.18 | JeffM | are you using C++11? |
| 23:04.08 | ts3d | once I read up some more on it, i'll probably use some of the new features |
| 23:04.26 | JeffM | if so then you can just have std::list<std::shared_ptr>> |
| 23:04.48 | JeffM | sorry shared_ptr<your_class> |
| 23:04.49 | JeffM | then just shove smart pointers in there |
| 23:05.04 | JeffM | the system will throw them away when all refrences go out of scope |
| 23:08.57 | ts3d | Program.cs:70 s/Statup/Startup/ |
| 23:11.49 | ts3d | What's the difference between GameWindow::KeyPress and GameWindow::Keyboard.KeyDown |
| 23:12.02 | JeffM | keypress gives the character |
| 23:12.11 | JeffM | keydown tells you about any key |
| 23:12.16 | JeffM | even ones that don't make characters |
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| 23:49.22 | Quol | JeffM: what was your idea with the CollectorGUI? some type of management GUI? (cleanup stale data, perform admin actions on SQL data etc? |
| 23:49.40 | JeffM | oh god no, it's just at est |
| 23:49.43 | JeffM | test |
| 23:50.20 | Quol | ahh - ok...just a mono/winforms test? |
| 23:50.42 | JeffM | i used it to test the collector in a gui |
| 23:50.55 | JeffM | made debugin it simpler |
| 23:51.10 | Quol | ahh - ok, I will just ignore it for now :) |