IRC log for #bzflag on 20120311

00:08.44*** join/#bzflag Pimpi (~frank@gondolin.pimpi.org)
00:48.31I_Died_Oncewhich bzfs conf option is it that sets the mandatory wait time for rejoiners?
00:50.27BulletCatcher-set _rejoinTime seconds
00:51.08I_Died_Oncethx
00:51.13BulletCatcheryw
00:51.21I_Died_Oncecan that be ran or changed during a game?
00:51.47BulletCatcherIt is a BZDB variable, so I assume it can be changed in-game with /set
00:51.55mdskpr_yes it can
00:52.03I_Died_Once<PROTECTED>
00:53.05I_Died_Onceok thx ;)
00:53.11I_Died_Onceis 45 too brutal?
00:53.33BulletCatcherThat's forever in Internet time!
00:55.55I_Died_Onceyoure right, made it 30
00:57.26brad<PROTECTED>
00:57.31brad<PROTECTED>
01:38.22*** join/#bzflag Delusional (~delusiona@pool-96-236-228-70.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
01:47.45*** join/#bzflag mdskpr_ (~mdskpr@108.25.124.197)
02:17.50*** join/#bzflag short_circuit (~spldart2@c-98-198-227-61.hsd1.tx.comcast.net)
02:29.49khonkhortisanif I join as observer to see the map to see if I want to play on it I automatically start that timer
02:30.24*** join/#bzflag Gnurdux_ (~gnurdux@adsl-69-228-95-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
02:59.20a_meteoritemrapple: ping
03:06.44khonkhortisanI can see two reasons why /mine wouldn't become mainstream
03:07.08khonkhortisanunavoidable death and planting them on well-traveled areas like teleporters
03:07.26JeffMthere are many thins that make mines not fun
03:25.35*** join/#bzflag short_circuit (~spldart2@c-98-198-227-61.hsd1.tx.comcast.net)
03:31.26mrapplea_meteorite: pong
03:36.35*** join/#bzflag Delusional (~delusiona@pool-96-236-228-70.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
03:37.40a_meteoritemrapple: do you still have winny's texture pack?
03:38.02a_meteoriteused to be at http://static.bzextreme.com/winny-bzflag-textures.zip
03:45.57mrappleheh, i just moved servers
03:46.00mrapplelemme check
03:47.19mrapplea_meteorite: http://oc.tc/winny-bzflag-textures.zip
03:50.19a_meteoritesweet, thanks
03:50.39JeffMno license :)
03:51.04a_meteoritemeh I could e-mail Winny, doubt he cares
03:51.19JeffMthat won't hold up in court :)
03:51.28JeffMtho 4 of them have to be LGPL
03:52.57a_meteoriteI thought he did more textures than that, guess not
03:53.16a_meteoriteat least boxwall and std_ground
04:53.21*** join/#bzflag noyb (~noyb@pool-98-119-151-35.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
05:13.17*** join/#bzflag bier (~bier@p5085F0FC.dip.t-dialin.net)
06:08.37*** join/#bzflag n_r00t (~r00t@95.82.120.18)
07:30.16*** join/#bzflag n_r00t (~r00t@85.133.186.7)
11:33.27*** join/#bzflag Delusional (~delusiona@pool-96-236-228-70.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
13:19.39*** join/#bzflag _lmnop (~lmnop@p5DC4F730.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:29.48*** join/#bzflag mdskpr (~mdskpr@108.25.124.197)
14:01.14*** join/#bzflag Delusional (~delusiona@pool-96-236-228-70.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
14:03.43*** join/#bzflag KTL (~KTL@77.109.97.8.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net)
14:57.39CIA-104BZFlag: 03atupone * r22409 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: UPnP man page
14:57.53*** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@gentoo/developer/tupone)
14:57.53*** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ
14:58.22*** join/#bzflag EbErT (~ebert@99-98-153-115.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net)
15:02.01*** join/#bzflag Quol_ (~Ian@webout3.futureelectronics.com)
15:12.14*** part/#bzflag EbErT (~ebert@99-98-153-115.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net)
16:28.31*** join/#bzflag JeffM (~Toybox@unaffiliated/jeffm2501)
16:28.32*** mode/#bzflag [+v JeffM] by ChanServ
17:03.30*** join/#bzflag _lmnop (~lmnop@pD9F650FA.dip.t-dialin.net)
17:19.06*** join/#bzflag yosef (62c6ab4d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.198.171.77)
17:22.52*** join/#bzflag _lmnop (~lmnop@p5DC4FCFB.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:18.20*** join/#bzflag echelon (~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/harel)
18:18.24echelonlist server down?
18:30.25*** part/#bzflag echelon (~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/harel)
18:48.14I_Died_Oncebzbb down
19:13.48kierra<PROTECTED>
19:15.47JeffMwe knew it would happen one day
19:16.06kierrameaning?
19:16.13JeffMthe day bzflag died
19:17.46JeffMbut really, the drive is probalby out of space again
19:33.07*** join/#bzflag Delusional (~delusiona@pool-96-236-228-70.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
19:44.08*** join/#bzflag noyb (~noyb@pool-98-119-151-35.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
19:58.03JeffMyay, screenshots :) http://www.opencombat.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=Unit0Graphics#hn_Screenshots
20:06.55*** join/#bzflag mdskpr (~mdskpr@108.25.124.197)
20:13.43*** join/#bzflag Scrumpy (~Scrumpy@smurfnet.xs4all.nl)
20:32.25JeffMheh, beardy wants to be "unregisterd" from bzbb since I ignored his last email, even tho my last one to him was "I see what you are talking about, I'm going to try to get a fix in"
22:42.28*** join/#bzflag calvin (~IceChat77@108-93-117-56.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
22:50.07*** join/#bzflag noyb (~noyb@pool-98-119-151-35.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
22:58.43*** join/#bzflag echelon (~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/harel)
22:58.56echelonwhat's the deal with the list server
23:07.38JeffMit runs out of space a lot
23:09.16echelonoh
23:09.39JeffMblast mentioned that he would upgrade the server if needed
23:09.56JeffMif he can't I'll offer him a server that sould work better
23:11.36BulletCatcherIt should be working normally at the moment, but there is only 1 GB of free disk space.
23:12.14echelon1 gb isn't enough for the data it stores?
23:12.21JeffMoh god no
23:12.32JeffMit's a 15 gig machine
23:12.33echelonwhat does it store :/
23:12.47JeffMdatabases, all the uploads to the forums, all the images.
23:12.52JeffMbackups
23:13.12echelonoh, so it's not specific to just the server list
23:13.13JeffMpictures from blast's vegas trip that will never see the light of day
23:13.19echelonlol
23:13.20JeffMno
23:13.31JeffMthe server list and forums are integrated at some level
23:13.51JeffMthe server list uses the forum DB for authentication
23:13.57echelonyou can offload static content to a thttpd/nginx server or something
23:14.05JeffMthere are lots of things we can do
23:14.14JeffMbut there is little static content
23:14.27echelonoh
23:14.44JeffMI think it's just that blast dosn't have a lot of time to work on it.
23:14.53echeloni see
23:15.50JeffMBulletCatcher, you may want to look at the posts by HannahBella412, they seem very confused and cross posty.
23:15.58BulletCatcherk
23:37.15*** part/#bzflag echelon (~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/harel)
23:45.13FlashDarn Mofo ... always pushing the envelope
23:45.14Flashhttp://flash.pastebin.ca/2126982
23:50.43JeffMthat's useless with out knowing what the paramters to handleServerMessage were
23:51.24FlashI was amazed you found the other bug from the stack trace
23:51.28Flashso it was worth a shot
23:52.04JeffMhandleServerMessage is a very generic function
23:52.08JeffMit handles a LOT of messages
23:52.22JeffMmy gut tells me the size was too short and that caused a buffer overrun
23:52.40JeffMI've known about that for a long time but fixing that is quite tedious in the current code
23:52.50JeffMI had started fixing it on the server in 3.0
23:53.10FlashHave you considered Google Protocol Buffers?
23:53.34FlashI was thinking it could clean up the network layer a lot
23:53.50JeffMoh there are MANY ways that we could clean up networking
23:54.05Flashcertainly
23:54.09JeffMusing enet or somet third party UDP networking system would be simplest
23:54.28Flashwhy UDP ... you have to have a server connection to play
23:54.37JeffMUDP is faster
23:54.45FlashIs latency the biggest problem?
23:54.47JeffMyeah
23:55.04JeffMyou don't want to waste cycles having TCP resend postion data
23:55.17JeffMsince the server has a new positon data ready by the time the retransmit happens
23:55.24JeffMso it's better to let it die and send a new one
23:55.45JeffMmost action games will do pure UDP
23:55.59FlashI've never heard of enet before, but it looks nice (from the front page)
23:56.10JeffMthere are a number of good UDP game networking engines
23:56.47JeffMon the .net side I'm partial to lidgren network
23:57.09FlashI need to retire so I can spend some time programming here
23:57.16JeffMheh

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.