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| 05:23.48 | JeffM | hmm I can't get bz to use the system libcurl on a new ubnutu install |
| 05:24.58 | I_Died_Once | i had a similar problem with cares earlier |
| 05:25.03 | I_Died_Once | c-ares |
| 05:25.07 | I_Died_Once | had the dev installed |
| 05:25.26 | I_Died_Once | only way i could get the configure script to 'see' it was after a "make maintainer-clean" |
| 05:25.37 | I_Died_Once | then rerun autogen, etc |
| 05:26.29 | I_Died_Once | not that i know anything on this that you dont |
| 05:27.19 | JeffM | you have more experience building on linux then I do :) |
| 05:27.52 | I_Died_Once | not sure if that means having compiled on so many machines..... |
| 05:28.07 | I_Died_Once | or compiling multiple, multiple times on a few machines |
| 05:28.18 | I_Died_Once | multiple, multiple time |
| 05:28.24 | I_Died_Once | mucho mas multiples |
| 05:29.28 | I_Died_Once | "make sure you have the libcurl dev files installed!" |
| 05:29.29 | JeffM | yeah a distclean helped |
| 05:29.37 | JeffM | good call |
| 05:29.48 | I_Died_Once | glad to be of actual help |
| 05:30.03 | I_Died_Once | i think it has something to do with cache files storing what you have and what you dont |
| 05:30.07 | I_Died_Once | something of that nature |
| 05:30.19 | JeffM | probably |
| 05:37.05 | JeffM | ok, unity in a vm is friggin wierd |
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| 06:12.15 | I_Died_Once | .so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 06:12.48 | I_Died_Once | ummm, santa's elf vs keebler elf ?? |
| 06:16.08 | BulletCatcher | ELF is a binary file format. |
| 06:16.09 | BulletCatcher | If your bzfs is a 64-bit program then it can't mix with 32-bit libraries. |
| 06:17.26 | BulletCatcher | Use the "file" program (e.g. "file ./bzfs") to see whether the format of bzfs and the plugin are the same. |
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| 19:06.35 | Constitution | JeffM: mac I am! I do not like green eggs and ham! |
| 19:06.41 | Constitution | er, I mean yes, I do have a mac |
| 19:12.18 | BulletCatcher | To remove any doubt, Constitution, you could remind us of your SourceForge account name. :-) |
| 19:15.30 | blast007 | or you could link us to that why-mac page again ;) |
| 19:21.20 | macsforme | http://www.apple.com/why-mac |
| 19:21.25 | macsforme | bows |
| 19:22.32 | JeffM | Constitution, ever work with mono? |
| 19:23.02 | JeffM | does that page have one of the reasons as "cus I have an extra thousand dollars I want to waste" ? |
| 19:23.06 | Constitution | don't think so, aside from a test I think you had me do once |
| 19:23.21 | JeffM | how hard was it to setup mono that time? |
| 19:23.31 | Constitution | not difficult iirc |
| 19:23.41 | JeffM | k |
| 19:23.50 | JeffM | I've been testing my curent app on win and lin |
| 19:24.01 | JeffM | was just curios how hard mac would be |
| 19:24.36 | JeffM | I assume that it should be possible to build a .app with mono as a framework |
| 19:24.43 | JeffM | and then shove the C# bins in it |
| 19:25.30 | blast007 | JeffM: no, but the page does have both "Doesn't get PC viruses" and "Runs Windows" as reasons ;) |
| 19:25.36 | JeffM | and I was curious if monodev worked on the mac |
| 19:25.43 | JeffM | blast007, heh |
| 19:25.51 | JeffM | what bout the mac viruses? |
| 19:26.03 | blast007 | that's not a PC virus! |
| 19:26.22 | blast007 | or as the mac fans say, "a trojan is not a virus!" |
| 19:26.36 | JeffM | heh |
| 19:26.49 | Quol_ | I think I like you 2 :) |
| 19:26.51 | JeffM | so macs arn't personal computes? |
| 19:27.00 | Constitution | in my experience, buying a mac is like buying a car... never buy new! |
| 19:27.18 | JeffM | yeah the you can have less time with it before it's bricked |
| 19:27.41 | blast007 | motions to his mini brick |
| 19:27.52 | JeffM | feels bad about that |
| 19:27.58 | blast007 | doesn't |
| 19:28.06 | blast007 | it served it's purpose |
| 19:28.15 | JeffM | that's good |
| 19:28.25 | JeffM | we still have a few of the PPC minis here |
| 19:28.26 | blast007 | though I need to find something to do with that mac copy of Halo I bought... |
| 19:28.31 | Quol_ | remember when Apple first went to Intel, and they said "windows will never be able to run on a MAC.." then everyone got it to run on a MAC, and now it's listed as a feature on the why mac page :) |
| 19:28.31 | JeffM | heh |
| 19:28.40 | Constitution | I will call you out on that one... I've had relatively few hardware issues with my macs, and service is always good |
| 19:28.42 | blast007 | barely ran on the mini to begin with ;) |
| 19:28.58 | JeffM | Quol_, remember when they moved to PPC and said it was a WAY beter chip then intel could ever make? |
| 19:29.08 | Quol_ | JeffM, yes - lol |
| 19:29.21 | JeffM | Constitution, I would like to buy a mac |
| 19:29.27 | JeffM | I may get a mini |
| 19:29.31 | blast007 | remember when they made the hockey puck shaped mouse for the iMacs? |
| 19:29.45 | JeffM | I just wish there was other options then that monopoly they have |
| 19:29.53 | Constitution | has a mac mini |
| 19:29.59 | JeffM | I had one of those on my G3 |
| 19:30.19 | blast007 | yeah, we've got a few of them here in the elementary schools ;) |
| 19:30.23 | JeffM | the mini probalby has the least amount of "apple tax" |
| 19:30.23 | Quol_ | JeffM, I hear this year is the year of the linux desktop :) |
| 19:30.42 | blast007 | Quol_: no no, that was last year, and the year before that, and the year before THAT |
| 19:30.46 | JeffM | Quol_, I'll agree with that with what I saw with ubuntu, at least for my uses |
| 19:30.54 | JeffM | I took my C# app and just double clicked it |
| 19:31.05 | JeffM | they had the mono runtimes all set by default with correct bindings |
| 19:31.10 | Constitution | I thought ubuntu had it made with the easy user experience, until unity started breaking everything |
| 19:31.11 | JeffM | didn't have to intall a thing |
| 19:31.19 | Quol_ | blast007, yes - exactly...my attempt at sarcasm :) |
| 19:31.25 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:32.30 | blast007 | but yeah, the mini is about the only mac I would even consider buying |
| 19:32.36 | blast007 | I don't want a built-in screen.. |
| 19:32.54 | blast007 | and I don't really need a xeon :) |
| 19:33.42 | JeffM | I would prefer if it was under 500 still |
| 19:33.51 | JeffM | I'm not seeing the components are worth what they charge |
| 19:34.35 | JeffM | 599 with intel onboard seems like a scam |
| 19:36.09 | Quol_ | JeffM, that's because you are not a true MAC believer yet. Once you get one, the power of the darkside will consume you, and then you will think that it was a great deal, and get all the other i* devices |
| 19:37.33 | blast007 | probably get better overall performance out of the new AMD APUs |
| 19:45.01 | I_Died_Once | if I had a mac.... I would install debian on it. |
| 19:45.06 | I_Died_Once | just like my toaster |
| 19:49.07 | Constitution | wow, I didn't know OS X 10.8 is due in the summer already |
| 19:52.31 | Quol_ | Constitution, I hear it will be the best operating system mankind has ever made....because it can post to twitter |
| 19:53.11 | I_Died_Once | ..is there an official bzflag project twitter account? |
| 19:53.19 | blast007 | no |
| 19:53.23 | I_Died_Once | ducks |
| 19:54.40 | blast007 | Quol_: that feature probably violates some patent that Samsung owns ;) |
| 19:55.57 | Quol_ | blast007, I would hope so :) |
| 19:56.17 | Quol_ | meanwhile, MS just keeps sucking more and more...sheesh |
| 19:57.43 | Quol_ | man - this corrupt Asia exchange database has been rebuilding now for 52 hours...when will it end... |
| 19:58.23 | Quol_ | I got VP's and my CTO all over me :) |
| 19:59.29 | Quol_ | so - here's a question, if MS bombs with windows 8 - does Apple just take over and start rulling the world? |
| 20:02.31 | blast007 | nah, Windows 9 will fix all the problems |
| 20:04.35 | Quol_ | lol |
| 20:24.31 | JeffM | Quol_, I used to have several |
| 20:24.37 | JeffM | and I have an iPhone |
| 20:28.22 | Quol_ | JeffM, unfortunately - so do I...and soon most probably an iPad for my son (his school is requesting that all kids get one - and it must be an iPad).. |
| 20:28.47 | JeffM | that's lame |
| 20:28.53 | JeffM | I love my kindle fire |
| 20:29.35 | Quol_ | ya - I have heard that from lots of people...but in canada, the kindle fire doesn't really do anything.. |
| 20:29.52 | JeffM | I read books on it and look at web pages |
| 20:29.54 | JeffM | what more do you need? |
| 20:30.19 | Quol_ | well - there are no books avaiable for it in canada - so that goes out the window - there's half of it :) |
| 20:31.02 | JeffM | does amazon sell the fire in canda? |
| 20:31.07 | Quol_ | nope |
| 20:31.22 | JeffM | well that makes sense then :) |
| 20:31.41 | Quol_ | :) |
| 20:31.42 | JeffM | they probalby have to work out all the rights |
| 20:32.00 | JeffM | that's whats screwing us all over |
| 20:32.45 | Quol_ | ya - unfortunatly, our crazy laws make it hard on them..was the reason why rhpasody never came to canada, and Microsoft pulled the plug on the zune music store in canada |
| 20:33.21 | Quol_ | although - MS was just recently allowed to re-open/offer the windows phone/zune music store in canada again..so maybe things are a changing |
| 20:35.34 | Quol_ | JeffM, are you in the US? I thought you were UK? |
| 20:37.43 | JeffM | *le sigh*.. ok, I'm now officialy done with Beardy... I tried to be nice. |
| 20:37.48 | JeffM | Quol_, yeah US |
| 20:38.15 | Quol_ | ahh - OK...don't know why I thought you were UK for some reason...now i know :) |
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| 21:32.26 | JeffM | If I lived in the UK I'd be on the wrong side of the road |
| 21:44.48 | I_Died_Once | look kid, big ben |
| 21:44.56 | I_Died_Once | parliment! |
| 21:46.01 | Quol__ | if you want to see parliment - you can come to canada - don't have to go all the way to england :) |
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