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| 01:17.31 | blast007 | wtf... the VPS host increased the monthly invoice by a dollar... |
| 01:18.16 | JeffM | maybe it's to pay for taking the beta flag off the website |
| 01:18.40 | JeffM | so you are up to 16$ a month now? |
| 01:18.53 | blast007 | $9 |
| 01:19.30 | blast007 | I had it set up for automatic payments, so I haven't been looking at every invoice |
| 01:19.41 | blast007 | and today I see an "invoice overdue" email |
| 01:19.46 | blast007 | cuz it's a dollar short |
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| 01:24.16 | JeffM | yeah the host I left had issues like that, when I upgraded service they couldn't redo the auto bill for the difference |
| 01:25.13 | blast007 | had I realized, I'd have asked about this sooner and/or recreated the auto billing subscription |
| 01:25.32 | JeffM | so what are you getting for 9$? |
| 01:25.47 | blast007 | 512MB-ish RAM, 15GB space, 1TB bandwidth |
| 01:25.58 | JeffM | oh |
| 01:26.04 | JeffM | yeah I pay less and get more then that |
| 01:26.13 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:26.26 | JeffM | 6$ 512 ram, 20 gigs of space |
| 01:26.41 | JeffM | are you on openVZ or zen? |
| 01:26.47 | JeffM | sorry xen |
| 01:27.12 | blast007 | xen HVM |
| 01:27.20 | JeffM | ok, then that makes sense |
| 01:27.24 | JeffM | I'm on openVZ |
| 01:29.44 | blast007 | xen with the same specs is $5.95/month |
| 01:29.51 | blast007 | sorry, openvz |
| 01:29.56 | JeffM | then it's comprable |
| 01:30.05 | blast007 | and Windows is $9.45! |
| 01:30.13 | JeffM | just a bit more disk space |
| 01:30.18 | blast007 | yeah, which would be nice |
| 01:30.28 | JeffM | what datacenter you at? |
| 01:30.53 | blast007 | new jersey, I think |
| 01:32.58 | JeffM | I was thinking of getting another VPS in chigago for testing SQL mirroring |
| 01:33.08 | blast007 | 1.2GB free disk space right now ;) |
| 01:33.13 | JeffM | ouch |
| 01:33.21 | blast007 | deletes the torrents |
| 01:33.31 | JeffM | save the pr0n |
| 01:33.36 | blast007 | I did |
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| 11:52.51 | a_meteorite | ~mp |
| 11:52.52 | ibot | rumour has it, mp is Northern Mariana Islands |
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| 12:15.47 | blast007 | .... and the email to their billing address.. bounced? grrrrrrrr |
| 12:18.23 | blast007 | and there's no phone number to call, it seems |
| 13:14.10 | blast007 | looks like it went through that time |
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| 17:21.43 | blast007 | ~BulletCatcher++ |
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| 17:41.08 | JeffM | wow, you know it's bad when BulletCatcher gets anoyed |
| 17:53.34 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, in my testing I saw no memory issues with the callsign, it just was not set yet |
| 17:54.03 | JeffM | and for his playerinfo offset comment I just don't think he understand how C++ works |
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| 18:23.59 | blast007 | JeffM: there's a lot he doesn't understand |
| 18:24.35 | blast007 | he got confused by 'r22139' |
| 18:24.39 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:24.47 | JeffM | I don't think he's actualy worked on a sizeable project |
| 18:25.01 | JeffM | is he doing anything other then wasting time? |
| 18:25.05 | blast007 | I use a VCS for even small stuff... |
| 18:25.37 | JeffM | the "Bug" he found has no effect on the code whatsoever, it is actualy an undesired feature |
| 18:25.54 | blast007 | though I suppose I didn't as much early on - but I throw most of my tiny side projects into a Mercurial repo now |
| 18:26.12 | JeffM | yeah I just have a svn runiing on my vps |
| 18:26.18 | JeffM | everything goes in that |
| 18:26.34 | blast007 | I used to do SVN for that, but it was a bit more complicated to get working right |
| 18:26.55 | blast007 | partially because I did an SVN repo for each project instead of one big one for everything |
| 18:27.01 | JeffM | ahh |
| 18:27.04 | JeffM | yeah that would be a pain |
| 18:27.14 | JeffM | I just have a jeffm repo :) |
| 18:27.25 | blast007 | I prefer keeping stuff separate though - since some of it I made public, and other parts I didn't |
| 18:27.43 | JeffM | I belive there are ways to copy from one repo to another with history |
| 18:27.52 | JeffM | so if I need to go public i'll do that |
| 18:27.59 | JeffM | but they are both valid methods |
| 18:28.17 | JeffM | I do get mad that schools don't teach VCS these days |
| 18:28.31 | JeffM | I'd make every student have to check in and out to turn in projects |
| 18:28.56 | JeffM | then make em swap repositories to fix bugs and add features to other people's code |
| 18:29.32 | blast007 | "Today, class, we'll be learning Visual SourceSafe" *kids run out of the room screaming* "Fine, fine, we'll do git..." |
| 18:29.39 | JeffM | heh |
| 18:29.46 | JeffM | SS is actualy super easy to setup |
| 18:29.50 | JeffM | it has no server |
| 18:29.57 | blast007 | never used it |
| 18:30.07 | JeffM | it's all file system based |
| 18:30.15 | JeffM | you use a tool to create a repository on some share somewhere |
| 18:30.22 | JeffM | then just point to the path |
| 18:30.40 | JeffM | it uses lock files and such to manage the datatabase |
| 18:32.19 | JeffM | that method makes it very limited, hard to use over the internet, and prone to coruption. But it's easy to set up :) |
| 18:33.13 | blast007 | so is git or mercurial ;) |
| 18:33.49 | JeffM | for a single user git is easy |
| 18:34.04 | JeffM | I did not like that it had the requirement of a unix user per git user |
| 18:34.27 | blast007 | can it not be done over HTTPS? |
| 18:34.47 | JeffM | the simple way to set up git is over ssh on a local linux machine |
| 18:35.13 | JeffM | I had a hard time setting it up to do multiple users |
| 18:35.15 | blast007 | meh, I just use Bitbucket anyways ;) |
| 18:35.35 | JeffM | yeah that's what I've done when I wanted a git system |
| 18:35.50 | JeffM | svn was pretty easy to set up the way I wanted |
| 18:36.00 | JeffM | just enable some webdav and create the repo |
| 18:36.14 | blast007 | I did my SVN with SSL as well |
| 18:36.23 | blast007 | and authentication |
| 18:36.29 | blast007 | that part was the hardest to get "right" |
| 18:36.50 | blast007 | since I wanted anonymous access to the 'public' area, but wanted to require auth to access the 'private' area |
| 18:37.06 | blast007 | anonymous read-only access* |
| 18:37.33 | blast007 | I didn't even bother setting that up on my new server |
| 18:54.35 | JeffM | *sigh* I wold have banned him by now |
| 18:55.10 | blast007 | it's quote-tastic! |
| 18:57.12 | blast007 | I'll probably go add him to the readonly group now.. |
| 18:57.15 | JeffM | I love how he 1) dosn't even read my responce and 2) makes a completely wrong assumptionon the change. |
| 18:58.14 | blast007 | hmm, there's an asshats group as well. wonder what that one does. |
| 19:03.29 | blast007 | there, now he can only read the public forums ;) |
| 19:20.58 | JeffM | If you email him tell him he can email me about development questions if if he continues to have them. |
| 19:21.30 | JeffM | maybe he'll be less quoty in email |
| 19:21.50 | blast007 | probably not :P |
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| 21:19.55 | I_Died_Once | my goodness |
| 21:20.21 | JeffM | it was a grand culling |
| 21:49.39 | JeffM | how do we know that those that rejoined really are the same ones that left? Maybe they were replaced by pod people |
| 22:03.47 | I_Died_Once | ...gonna turn me back to the old me |
| 22:03.59 | I_Died_Once | .......smoke trees |
| 22:04.03 | I_Died_Once | ...........................the police! |
| 22:05.50 | I_Died_Once | So, random question - what would or could cause a bzfs server, with no plugins or anything 'bzfs -p 4201' make it run at 15 and 20 percent of the cpu? |
| 22:06.45 | I_Died_Once | one player joining with 10 bots |
| 22:12.43 | JeffM | the map |
| 22:12.51 | JeffM | computing spawns |
| 22:13.18 | JeffM | does it have a mesh ground or anything? |
| 22:19.57 | I_Died_Once | nope |
| 22:20.11 | I_Died_Once | you ever see dutchrai's "wild east wild west" map? |
| 22:21.32 | I_Died_Once | http://shellshock.bzflag.bz/images/tmf/mapslarge/eastwest.jpg |
| 22:22.05 | I_Died_Once | it does the same with a auto generated map |
| 22:24.06 | JeffM | does it only use that much CPU at the start then drop down or does it stay at that level? |
| 22:24.25 | JeffM | cus it could be networking |
| 22:24.28 | I_Died_Once | stays at that level when its populated |
| 22:24.42 | JeffM | the VM probably just donsn't hve a lot of CPU time then |
| 22:24.47 | JeffM | bbl |
| 22:43.08 | blast007 | it's a 1.6GHz Xeon quad-core, with one core given to the VM |
| 22:47.02 | I_Died_Once | blames terrorists |
