| 00:21.56 | ahs3- | allejo: ping |
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| 00:47.42 | Tanx | Anyone here an admin on turrent defense? |
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| 02:24.02 | apeman | is there something that determines bzfs's loop rate? |
| 02:25.40 | apeman | by that i mean the tickEvent rate |
| 02:33.12 | blast007 | yes |
| 02:33.35 | apeman | nvm |
| 02:33.44 | blast007 | plugins can set a maximum wait time (which the lowest one then applies) and it also depends on how active the server is |
| 02:34.15 | blast007 | no player == a longer sleep between loops |
| 02:34.15 | blast007 | players* |
| 02:34.54 | apeman | hmm i set wait to be 1E-14, and i still got one frame that took 0.5 s |
| 02:35.12 | apeman | that means my server has processing spikes or something right? |
| 02:41.12 | blast007 | 1E-14 ? |
| 02:41.59 | apeman | smallest float > 0 |
| 02:42.23 | blast007 | well, of course that won't work ... |
| 02:42.30 | blast007 | bzfs does SOME work |
| 02:43.36 | blast007 | what are you trying to do? |
| 02:43.39 | apeman | well i wasn't trying to set the rate -- i thought bzfs does its own thing and calls the plugin only if it can keep up |
| 02:44.06 | blast007 | if you have a tick event, it will be called once per bzfs loop |
| 02:44.35 | blast007 | and if your tick even code takes 5 seconds to run, bzfs will be sitting there 5 seconds not able to do other things |
| 02:44.38 | apeman | regardless of maxWait? |
| 02:44.40 | blast007 | event* |
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| 02:44.59 | blast007 | maxWait just makes bzfs not sleep as long if it was going to |
| 02:45.08 | blast007 | that's all it does |
| 02:45.09 | apeman | ah |
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| 02:45.33 | blast007 | read the code |
| 02:45.41 | blast007 | that part should actually be pretty obvious |
| 02:54.07 | I_Died_Once | anyone in here seen this? |
| 02:54.09 | I_Died_Once | http://bzflag.blogspot.com/ |
| 02:54.20 | I_Died_Once | some asshat was spamming this url |
| 02:54.32 | I_Died_Once | bzflag cheat site |
| 02:54.33 | blast007 | please don't post that link |
| 02:55.09 | I_Died_Once | I apologize, my intentions are for you all to "fix" these |
| 02:57.47 | blast007 | actually that one doesn't seem to be a cheat blog.. |
| 03:01.07 | allejo | are custom flags even fully functional? they don't show up in the console, they don't appear on the radar when a player grabs it. you can't drop them |
| 03:01.43 | apeman | server messages for custom flags dont work |
| 03:01.59 | blast007 | allejo: dunno |
| 03:09.07 | allejo | yea custom flags aren't functional entirely |
| 03:09.41 | blast007 | probably never will be, then |
| 03:10.52 | allejo | i'll see if i poke around the source and see what the problem is when i get some time this weekend |
| 03:18.51 | blast007 | do you think it's just a server-side issue? |
| 03:20.33 | allejo | not entirely sure. as the flag does not appear as it was grabbed on the client |
| 03:20.48 | allejo | but the main problem with it is that the server doesn't recognize it properly as a flag |
| 03:21.24 | allejo | like if a player was killed with a custom flag, the flag name isn't put in killedWith or whatever the string is |
| 03:21.27 | blast007 | if it's a problem client-side, it will probably not be worth fixing |
| 03:21.36 | blast007 | since it would need to wait for a new major release |
| 03:21.52 | blast007 | and I don't think we'll even be doing minor releases after 2.4.2 is out |
| 03:22.04 | allejo | i think the main issue is server side as the radar issue can wait |
| 03:22.42 | apeman | i thought the flag description does get through |
| 03:23.06 | allejo | well in the console, whenever i grab the flag, it shows as "allejo: grabbed flag" |
| 03:23.32 | allejo | and awwwwwww no 2.4.4? :( |
| 03:23.40 | blast007 | probably not |
| 03:23.52 | blast007 | do you think there would be? ;) |
| 03:24.08 | allejo | i was already making a map for bz 5.0 :P |
| 03:24.30 | blast007 | I mean, look at all the development activity! |
| 03:25.02 | allejo | i'd be more than happy to help out but i'm still learning c++ :-/ |
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| 06:17.51 | DTRemenak | allejo: custom flags work fine for me |
| 06:18.06 | DTRemenak | including all messages |
| 06:18.14 | DTRemenak | what plugin are you trying? |
| 06:18.33 | DTRemenak | and have you tried customflagsample? |
| 06:20.06 | allejo | i've tried the customflagsample and it works, but what I can't do is get a plugin to recognize it with the "flagKilledWith" part |
| 06:20.32 | CIA-112 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r22346 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/customflagsample/customflagsample.sln: upgrade solution to vc9 |
| 06:20.37 | allejo | and also, in the console, I get "allejo: grabbed flag" |
| 06:20.49 | DTRemenak | which console? ingame? |
| 06:20.52 | DTRemenak | or server? |
| 06:20.52 | allejo | yea |
| 06:20.56 | allejo | ingame |
| 06:21.01 | DTRemenak | I get "dtremenak: grabbed Custom Flag flag" |
| 06:21.23 | allejo | i'll double check with the latest svn checkout |
| 06:22.53 | allejo | does your PlayerDieEvent recognize "Custom Flag (+CF)" as a valid flag for the flagKilledWith data? |
| 06:24.16 | JeffM | it should not be the full name |
| 06:24.21 | JeffM | it should be the short code |
| 06:24.29 | JeffM | IIRC |
| 06:26.34 | allejo | ahhh that may be the issue. let me test after i compile the latest revision |
| 06:26.34 | JeffM | I don't recall any messages that use the display name for flag codes in the API |
| 06:26.48 | JeffM | use the debuger and see what it is sending you :) |
| 06:27.15 | allejo | waits for compiling to be finished |
| 06:27.57 | JeffM | the debuger is your friend, use it before you say other people's code dosn't work ;) |
| 06:29.47 | allejo | uhhhh is this supposed to show up? |
| 06:29.48 | allejo | AccessControlList.cxx:189:21: warning: declaration of ‘__x’ shadows a previous local |
| 06:29.48 | allejo | AccessControlList.cxx:189:21: warning: shadowed declaration is here |
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| 06:30.07 | JeffM | sure for shadowed variable |
| 06:30.11 | JeffM | it's a warning |
| 06:30.36 | JeffM | it's not a good idea, but if you have a shadow that is what it will say |
| 06:30.36 | allejo | and this: |
| 06:30.39 | allejo | SDLMedia.cxx: In member function 'virtual void SDLMedia::audioDriver(std::string&)': |
| 06:30.40 | allejo | SDLMedia.cxx:344: error: invalid conversion from 'const char*' to 'char*' |
| 06:30.51 | JeffM | also a valid error |
| 06:31.35 | allejo | bz won't compile on my mac because of that error |
| 06:31.46 | JeffM | not suprizing |
| 06:32.25 | JeffM | probably wont' compile on any platform |
| 06:33.05 | allejo | fair enough |
| 06:33.26 | JeffM | what the heck does that function even do? |
| 06:33.56 | JeffM | ahh I see |
| 06:34.49 | CIA-112 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22347 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/SDLMedia.cxx: they see me constin, they be hatein. |
| 06:36.28 | JeffM | I don't see the code that would cause the shadow warning, did you get the line numbers right? |
| 06:37.02 | JeffM | unless you have a macro for mask or s_addr |
| 06:37.44 | allejo | shadow warning -> http://pastebin.com/7igFRpfK |
| 06:38.14 | JeffM | what they heck is like 189:21 |
| 06:38.25 | JeffM | yeah you don't like the world mask is my bet |
| 06:39.09 | JeffM | change all the instances of "mask" in that function to "_mask" and see if it gives the same error |
| 06:41.36 | DTRemenak | macros ought not leak variables. |
| 06:41.37 | allejo | is compiling |
| 06:41.52 | JeffM | indeed |
| 06:41.56 | JeffM | I'm just guessing |
| 06:41.58 | allejo | still getting the shadow warning |
| 06:42.06 | JeffM | then your system is wierd |
| 06:42.15 | JeffM | I can't see anything in there that would leak a var |
| 06:42.41 | JeffM | unless ntohl or htonl are inlined macrs |
| 06:42.44 | JeffM | macros or anything |
| 06:42.52 | allejo | sdl error: |
| 06:42.52 | allejo | SDLDisplay.cxx: In member function 'bool SDLDisplay::getKey(const SDL_Event&, BzfKeyEvent&) const': |
| 06:42.53 | allejo | SDLDisplay.cxx:317: error: invalid conversion from 'const Uint16' to 'SDL_Keymod' |
| 06:42.53 | allejo | SDLDisplay.cxx:486: error: 'SDLK_FIRST' was not declared in this scope |
| 06:43.22 | JeffM | sucks to be mac I guess |
| 06:43.34 | JeffM | we should have someone with a mac try to build and fix all the cruft |
| 06:43.45 | JeffM | does it only not work in debug? or does it have the same errors in release? |
| 06:44.00 | allejo | i'm compiling from terminal |
| 06:44.11 | JeffM | for debug or a normal build? |
| 06:44.18 | allejo | normal build |
| 06:44.45 | JeffM | could have been broken when tupone cleaned up the warnings in gentoo |
| 06:45.02 | allejo | as for the macros warning, i'm not sure what OS it is. i'm just compiling on bzbattleground |
| 06:45.27 | JeffM | you said your mac |
| 06:45.38 | allejo | yes. my mac is getting the sdl error |
| 06:45.44 | JeffM | ok |
| 06:45.49 | JeffM | you were not exactly clear |
| 06:46.01 | allejo | bzbattleground is a linux distro getting the macros warning |
| 06:46.11 | allejo | pardon the ambiguity |
| 06:46.26 | CIA-112 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r22348 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/customflagsample/customflagsample.cpp: Demonstrate custom flag detection in bz_ePlayerDieEvent, 'cause that might actually be useful. |
| 06:46.29 | JeffM | it may not be a macro warning |
| 06:46.40 | JeffM | I have no idea what it is |
| 06:46.47 | JeffM | but I know people are bulding on linux |
| 06:46.51 | DTRemenak | and yeah, ePlayerDieEvent works fine...check against the abbreviation |
| 06:47.19 | JeffM | that file was last changed in december |
| 06:47.40 | JeffM | and blast has built a package since then, so it compiles on a debian system |
| 06:47.52 | JeffM | did you run configure and all that properly? |
| 06:47.54 | allejo | ah i'm getting the macros/unknown error in arch linux |
| 06:48.02 | allejo | warning* |
| 06:48.04 | JeffM | ok |
| 06:48.09 | JeffM | did you do it properly? |
| 06:48.30 | BulletCatcher | The shadow warnings have been around a long time on Linux, where htonl() and ntohl() are macros. |
| 06:48.31 | BulletCatcher | Thanks to this discussion I may have a clue how to fix it. |
| 06:48.37 | I_Died_Once | anyone know about iptables in here? |
| 06:49.01 | DTRemenak | allejo: your SDL is too new |
| 06:49.03 | BulletCatcher | Just basic stuff, I_Died_Once. |
| 06:49.04 | JeffM | ahh so macros were a good guess then :) |
| 06:49.12 | BulletCatcher | Yup. |
| 06:49.14 | DTRemenak | you need to build against SDL 1.2, not SDL 1.3 |
| 06:49.29 | allejo | DTRemenak, ahhh ok. let me get SDL 1.3 |
| 06:49.31 | allejo | 1.2* |
| 06:49.33 | I_Died_Once | i wanna get someone who knows whats what to look over my setup |
| 06:49.51 | JeffM | perhaps #linux? |
| 06:51.03 | I_Died_Once | well its related to my bz server and the ports, i just wanna get someone familiar with these things to tell me if its jacked |
| 06:51.15 | JeffM | sorry wrong window ;) |
| 06:51.24 | JeffM | but really it is dangerous for us to give out network advice |
| 06:51.36 | JeffM | and yes IP tables are mystic socery |
| 06:51.40 | JeffM | do you have a chicken? |
| 06:51.45 | I_Died_Once | i do, in fact |
| 06:51.51 | BulletCatcher | lol |
| 06:51.52 | JeffM | is it a full moon? |
| 06:51.57 | I_Died_Once | http://pastebin.com/Qm8QXrnS |
| 06:52.38 | I_Died_Once | i'm ultimately wanting the machine to list on port 22 (ssh) 80 (http) and 4200 thru 4210 for bzfs |
| 06:52.55 | I_Died_Once | i'm scared i'm going to lock myself out |
| 06:53.14 | JeffM | you can get to a virtual console right? |
| 06:53.29 | I_Died_Once | you mean ssh? |
| 06:53.32 | JeffM | no |
| 06:53.43 | JeffM | a virtual or real serial console |
| 06:53.54 | JeffM | it's like loging in localy by typing at the machine |
| 06:53.58 | JeffM | or a virtual KVM |
| 06:54.04 | JeffM | where is the machine? |
| 06:54.12 | I_Died_Once | in Atlanta! |
| 06:54.22 | JeffM | is it a VM or a real machine? |
| 06:54.26 | DTRemenak | if you have subinterfaces you can leave one un-firewalled while you test the other. if you have no subinterfaces and no console access...good luck :) |
| 06:54.27 | I_Died_Once | its a remote server |
| 06:54.35 | JeffM | is it a VM or a real machine? |
| 06:54.39 | I_Died_Once | vm |
| 06:54.51 | JeffM | for VMs the ISP usualy has a console web app |
| 06:55.07 | JeffM | that gets you access to the machien just like it was a real computer that you type on |
| 06:55.13 | JeffM | you can't firewall that |
| 06:55.31 | JeffM | mine runs in a wierd ajax thing but it works |
| 06:55.42 | JeffM | cus I locked myself out once :) |
| 06:55.49 | DTRemenak | mine's run over VNC, which is mighty nice |
| 06:56.06 | JeffM | indeed |
| 06:56.22 | JeffM | mine costs 6$ :) |
| 06:56.23 | DTRemenak | though I've never locked myself out with a firewall, I HAVE borked my bootup config... |
| 06:56.29 | BulletCatcher | To prevent ssh lockout, put "-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" early in the file. That will allow everything to TCP port 22. |
| 06:56.32 | allejo | still getting the same SDL error even when using 1.2 |
| 06:56.52 | I_Died_Once | so, let me ask this then, and i apologize for the derail, since I am firewalled, and my machine is only open to so many provided ports, iptables would be fairly useless? |
| 06:57.12 | JeffM | do you have services running on other ports? |
| 06:57.27 | BulletCatcher | iptables lets you control what gets through the firewall. |
| 06:57.36 | I_Died_Once | no, i'm wanitng to secure the machine airtight and take as many preventive strikes as i can |
| 06:57.40 | DTRemenak | allejo: it should be in SDL_keysym.h |
| 06:57.56 | DTRemenak | they removed it for 1.3. make sure bz is finding the right one. |
| 06:58.17 | JeffM | what is the ISP? |
| 06:58.23 | allejo | alright DTRemenak |
| 06:58.24 | I_Died_Once | paetec |
| 06:58.52 | I_Died_Once | if i want a port opened, i have to send an email and they open it |
| 06:59.10 | JeffM | oh then you are behind another firewall already? |
| 06:59.33 | I_Died_Once | man, i dont know if i can explain it, i'm behind a firewall thats behind a super firewall |
| 06:59.34 | JeffM | would make sense, they could firewall the interface on the VM host |
| 06:59.41 | I_Died_Once | with some NAT love thrown in there somewhere |
| 06:59.42 | JeffM | then you don't got to do anything |
| 07:00.01 | JeffM | but really you should know how to get to the console for the machine if it borks |
| 07:00.06 | I_Died_Once | took a while to hammer out connection |
| 07:00.44 | JeffM | how much do you pay for the VM if you don't mind |
| 07:01.03 | I_Died_Once | time and love |
| 07:01.31 | JeffM | so a "special" deal |
| 07:01.37 | DTRemenak | allejo: 'sdl-config --version' should tell you which one it's trying to use, I think. but my m4-fu is rusty. |
| 07:01.45 | I_Died_Once | family |
| 07:01.45 | JeffM | did they give you a login to the site? or just an IP and username for the VM? |
| 07:02.11 | allejo | DTRemenak, 1.2.14 |
| 07:02.14 | JeffM | and are you the only user of the VM? |
| 07:02.15 | BulletCatcher | I_Died_Once: Your iptables configuration looks much like the one I use at work, except that I don't use "-m state --state NEW" anywhere. I can't vouch for what that will do. |
| 07:04.18 | DTRemenak | allejo: hm. should be ok. what does config.log say about $SDL_CFLAGS? |
| 07:05.15 | DTRemenak | http://svn.libsdl.org/tags/SDL/release-1.2.14/include/SDL_keysym.h <-- as you can see, should have SDLK_FIRST defined ;) |
| 07:05.57 | allejo | DTRemenak, my config.log has "SDL_CFLAGS=''" |
| 07:06.14 | DTRemenak | heh, ok |
| 07:07.45 | DTRemenak | don't know how to help then. it's not using what it claims to be. |
| 07:08.37 | DTRemenak | you can build w/o client if you're just trying to get server plugins |
| 07:12.04 | allejo | apparently this isn't the first time with the issue. i found an old pastebin from mrapple |
| 07:13.17 | DTRemenak | wouldn't surprise me if some distros were using SDL 1.3 by default now. it's relatively stable. |
| 07:14.31 | allejo | i'm using mac 10.7.2 |
| 07:21.14 | DTRemenak | actually looks like we have support for 1.3 anyway, as long as configure can detect it. |
| 07:22.28 | JeffM | this is why I ask if configure and the likes were run properly :) |
| 07:23.20 | DTRemenak | his sdl-config is reporting 1.2.14, but the headers being used are reporting errors symptomatic of 1.3 |
| 07:24.09 | JeffM | sounds like 2 versions are installed and conflicting |
| 07:24.38 | JeffM | windows builds just fine FYI :) |
| 07:24.48 | JeffM | just boot camp that little mac |
| 07:25.20 | DTRemenak | hm, actually that's 2.99 |
| 07:27.29 | DTRemenak | regardless, it won't work if sdl-config believes you're using a different version than you really are |
| 07:29.19 | allejo | i'm gonna go to bed. i'll look into my SDL tomorrow |
| 07:29.53 | DTRemenak | custom flags do work, though :) |
| 07:30.41 | JeffM | trust in the debuger, the debuger is your friend |
| 07:37.39 | BulletCatcher | I have made the shadow warnings go away from AccessControlList.cxx, but I need to test to ensure that I haven't broken anything. That won't happen tonight. |
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| 12:56.52 | mrapple | allejo: it was 2 sdl versions conflicting for me |
| 12:57.18 | mrapple | one in my user dir and one in the system one iirc |
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| 16:25.38 | YourImagination | I have a question... Is there a way to get the newest update for bzflag 2.4 on windows? |
| 16:36.13 | I_Died_Once | YourImagination: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag/files/bzflag%20win32/2.4.0/ |
| 16:37.41 | I_Died_Once | pick the one you need - 32 or 64 bitz0rz! |
| 16:37.50 | YourImagination | I have that downloaded "Idiedonce" but there is a SVN package for linux...it is an upgrade i think. I was wondering if i could load the newest SVN version on windows |
| 16:38.11 | I_Died_Once | oh |
| 16:38.13 | I_Died_Once | prolly not |
| 16:38.13 | BulletCatcher | You would have to compile it yourself. |
| 16:38.38 | I_Died_Once | yeah, that would involve downloading all sort of windows compiling software |
| 16:39.01 | YourImagination | ew....im not going to deal with that |
| 16:39.05 | I_Died_Once | unless you can compile windows programs... |
| 16:39.20 | YourImagination | i think everything is binary |
| 16:39.23 | I_Died_Once | Try upgrading your operating system to Linux |
| 16:39.29 | I_Died_Once | ;) |
| 16:39.34 | YourImagination | long story....but i cant |
| 16:39.49 | I_Died_Once | 2.4 is still good |
| 16:40.10 | I_Died_Once | why yo0u need the latest when nothing really has been added |
| 16:40.31 | I_Died_Once | go pwn some n00bz and quit worrying about such matters |
| 16:41.02 | BulletCatcher | Most of the changes in SVN since the 2.4.0 release are for the server. |
| 16:41.17 | I_Died_Once | 'xacyly |
| 16:41.26 | I_Died_Once | *'xactly |
| 16:41.41 | YourImagination | "idiedonce" the problem is that if i f4 it crashes |
| 16:41.50 | I_Died_Once | its not like you're missing any new flags |
| 16:42.01 | I_Died_Once | why you wanna minimize the game? |
| 16:42.28 | YourImagination | accidental or if i am observing |
| 16:42.43 | I_Died_Once | old computer / video card? |
| 16:43.08 | YourImagination | if im observing, i probly wanna multitask |
| 16:43.22 | I_Died_Once | i understand that as i have big, Fred Flintstone style digits |
| 16:43.47 | YourImagination | it is a 5 year old omputer |
| 16:44.08 | YourImagination | there arent any new flags on version 2.4 |
| 16:44.14 | I_Died_Once | if F2 crashes, i would suggest making sure you have all of your windows update and service packs installed |
| 16:44.25 | I_Died_Once | **if F4 crashes it.... |
| 16:44.38 | I_Died_Once | making sure all your video drivers are up to date |
| 16:44.43 | YourImagination | they are |
| 16:44.48 | YourImagination | i checked |
| 16:45.07 | I_Died_Once | another caveat that no one else will suggest is to run "msconfig" |
| 16:45.14 | YourImagination | what is weird though is if i just started up and is not logged onto a server it doesnt crash when i f4 |
| 16:45.52 | I_Died_Once | and go to the "services" and "startup" tabs and disable anything that doesnt need to run at boot time |
| 16:46.16 | I_Died_Once | if its a laptop, make sure you leave the synaptics pointing device enabled |
| 16:46.27 | I_Died_Once | and leave your anti-virus stuff enabled |
| 16:46.51 | I_Died_Once | make sure to check "hide all microsoft..." |
| 16:47.16 | I_Died_Once | disable anything not essential at startup in those two tabs |
| 16:47.24 | I_Died_Once | itunes |
| 16:47.40 | I_Died_Once | hp driver progs (the drivers will load when you go to print) |
| 16:47.48 | I_Died_Once | googleupdate |
| 16:47.51 | I_Died_Once | bonjour |
| 16:47.54 | YourImagination | I did all of that...it doesnt change anything |
| 16:48.04 | I_Died_Once | then restart once you are done |
| 16:48.14 | YourImagination | i changed it all back...but it didnt do anything |
| 16:48.17 | YourImagination | i did |
| 16:48.32 | I_Died_Once | when it comes back up with the changes applied, it may help since you wont have as much stuff running |
| 16:48.35 | YourImagination | The problem is quick keyes/hot keyes |
| 16:48.52 | YourImagination | i just dont know how to edit official windows hot keyes |
| 16:48.53 | I_Died_Once | then disable your quick keys / hot keys |
| 16:49.08 | YourImagination | i dont know how..? i didnt see it in control panel |
| 16:49.17 | I_Died_Once | what version of winder's ?? |
| 16:49.44 | YourImagination | XP |
| 16:49.47 | I_Died_Once | vista? 7? xp? millenium edition? |
| 16:49.59 | YourImagination | XP pro |
| 16:50.04 | I_Died_Once | i'm sorry to hear that |
| 16:50.09 | YourImagination | lol |
| 16:51.16 | YourImagination | You dont know anything about XP? |
| 16:52.16 | I_Died_Once | i'm looking |
| 16:52.20 | I_Died_Once | google loves you, ya know |
| 16:52.21 | I_Died_Once | https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+xp+hot+key |
| 16:52.44 | YourImagination | i should marry it |
| 16:53.08 | YourImagination | i'm in love...i was searching but i didnt find these goodies |
| 16:53.38 | I_Died_Once | http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp/248650-how-disable-hot-keys.html |
| 16:53.50 | I_Died_Once | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/how-do-i-turn-off-hotkeys/dce2db93-bb8c-43fc-88b3-334f522cacdc |
| 16:57.25 | YourImagination | The microsoft.com website is helpful but it does not say how toget rid of hot keyes |
| 16:58.54 | YourImagination | They all say rightclick on screen and select graphics properties...but i dont have graphics properties |
| 17:02.17 | CIA-112 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r22349 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: bug 3368409 - don't start team timeout until the last team flag is dropped. |
| 17:07.54 | YourImagination | kk thanks for helping |
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| 17:11.39 | YourImagination | @"idiedonce" I fixed it! |
| 17:12.15 | YourImagination | i had a ATI control center ...and one of the controls were disabling hot keyes....i tried it and it works now |
| 17:12.27 | YourImagination | ty |
| 17:17.40 | I_Died_Once | that'll be $35 |
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| 17:31.42 | JeffM | do a barrel roll! |
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| 17:33.10 | JeffM | awww he musta crashed |
| 17:33.30 | BulletCatcher | Some IRC clients aren't designed to fly upside down. |
| 17:34.21 | JeffM | well he always did like older things |
| 17:34.32 | JeffM | you have a mac right? |
| 17:34.52 | BulletCatcher | An old one, running 10.4. |
| 17:35.05 | JeffM | intel or PPC? |
| 17:35.10 | BulletCatcher | Intel |
| 17:35.19 | JeffM | did you see the issues with trying to build trunk on it last night? |
| 17:36.02 | DTRemenak | mrapple dropped by after you left and said his problem was with several SDL versions conflicting (same as allejo) |
| 17:36.12 | JeffM | ahh ok |
| 17:36.17 | JeffM | so the code is probably all good? |
| 17:36.28 | BulletCatcher | Yes. I don't even have SDL installed at all on my Mac so it wouldn't be much help in this case. |
| 17:36.33 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:36.44 | JeffM | just worries about things :) |
| 17:38.24 | DTRemenak | still needs SDL 1.2, but if it's set up correctly and sdl-config reports 1.2.x, everything should work |
| 17:40.26 | JeffM | that makes sense since it's based on 2.0 |
| 17:41.02 | DTRemenak | blast said 2.99 didn't work quite right with sdl 1.3 either, even though it built |
| 17:41.09 | DTRemenak | something about mouse clicks not being recognized |
| 17:41.11 | JeffM | ahh |
| 17:42.08 | DTRemenak | ah, wrong person...ts said that |
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| 21:49.47 | blast007 | DTRemenak: I was thinking that SDL 1.2 didn't work properly on recent versions of OSX |
| 21:50.05 | blast007 | and I think we built with 1.3 for our release of 2.4, but I'm not sure |
| 21:50.42 | blast007 | and I don't have a mac to test that on :) |
| 21:50.44 | mcSpider | It doesn't unless the recent SDL 1.2.15 release fixed it. |
| 21:55.45 | blast007 | it might |
| 21:56.12 | blast007 | looks like there were putting some fixes for OSX 10.7 into SDL 1.2 back in August, for instance |
| 21:56.25 | blast007 | http://lists.libsdl.org/pipermail/commits-libsdl.org/2011-August/004205.html |
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| 22:14.22 | McSpider | I get 2 errors when compiling with 1.2.15, after I fix them it compiles but crashes: http://pastebin.com/xw6S5XY8 |
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| 23:13.23 | Erroneous | blast007: 1.3 removes some symbols that we use in 2.4, so I'm pretty sure our release didn't use it ;) |
| 23:14.03 | Erroneous | but I do know we moved 2.99 to support 1.3 for that reason (x64 on recent osx) |
| 23:29.02 | blast007 | yeah, guess it's 1.2.14 that was used for the OSX release of 2.4.0 |
| 23:31.39 | swigg | Is the 'Precision' mode still available in 2.4? |
| 23:32.11 | swigg | blast007: Is the 'Precision' mode still available in 2.4? |
| 23:32.19 | JeffM | what does that mean? |
| 23:32.22 | JeffM | never heard of it |
| 23:32.56 | swigg | there was a mode for keyboard movement which allowed for a dampening effect |
| 23:33.11 | swigg | I think you would hit the 'p' key |
| 23:33.23 | swigg | similar to 'momentum' |
| 23:34.38 | JeffM | I don't recall backporting it |
| 23:36.10 | mdskpr_ | swigg: isn't the 'a'? |
| 23:37.15 | swigg | You are correct |
| 23:46.39 | JeffM | what version had it? |
| 23:46.55 | mdskpr_ | 2.4 has it |