IRC log for #bzflag on 20111112

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06:44.25I_Died_Oncegot this when compiling 2.4
06:44.27I_Died_Onceother/curl/lib/libcurl.la ../../src/other/ares/libcares.la -lc -lz -ldl ../date/libDate.la -lm  -lpthread
06:44.27I_Died_Once/usr/bin/ld: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `base64.o' is incompatible with i386 output
06:44.27I_Died_Oncecollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
06:44.33I_Died_Onceduring make
06:45.42I_Died_Oncedid i miss something during conigure?
07:03.50Constitutionwhat os
07:04.37I_Died_Oncedebian i386
07:05.14Constitutionwhat did configure report as the build architecture?
07:05.56I_Died_Oncechecking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
07:05.56I_Died_Oncechecking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
07:05.56I_Died_Oncechecking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
07:05.56I_Died_Oncechecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
07:06.19I_Died_Once386... 686...  w/e
07:06.27I_Died_Oncecompiling from source
07:07.42Constitutionbase64 appears to refer to src/bzfs/base64.cxx... which appears for some reason to have built 64-bit
07:09.20Constitutionwhat does "file src/bzfs/base64.o" give you?
07:10.01I_Died_Oncedeath@sr1303wm:~/bin/bzflag-2.4.0$ file src/bzfs/base64.o
07:10.01I_Died_Oncesrc/bzfs/base64.o: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
07:10.30Constitutionweird... this is a clean source checkout? not transferred from another machine?
07:10.42I_Died_Onceyeah it is transferred from another machine
07:10.46Constitutionah
07:10.49I_Died_Onceshould i delete thjat?
07:10.51Constitutionmake distclean
07:11.14Constitutionthen ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make, etc. again
07:11.53I_Died_Oncei bet it'll work now
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11:04.19CIA-117BZFlag: 03cobrafast * r22227 10/trunk/bzflag/data/l10n/bzflag_de.po: Updated german localization.
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17:46.57I_Died_Oncethanks Constitution
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18:29.50remotei'm having some light misunderstanding of how to run bzflag servers
18:30.08remoteshould they broadcast to the list server by default?
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18:35.24blast007remote: no
18:35.41blast007remote: with 2.4, you have to have a public hosting key
18:35.59blast007and then of course, all the other necessary -public* stuff
18:36.31blast007http://wiki.bzflag.org/Public_Server
18:36.34remoteok thanks
18:36.39remotei was looking for the doc
18:37.14blast007hmm, I'll probably have to make sure that any new keys get migrated to the new server, as well
18:38.26remotedo i need to specify the subdomain in the host?
18:38.53blast007you need to specify whatever public hostname you're going to use
18:39.28remoteok
18:39.30blast007though I'm not sure I understand your question
18:40.08blast007I'm probably missing some context
18:42.06remotei was wondering if main domain would grant public listing to subdomains
18:42.14remotebut it's not important
18:42.20remoteoption "-publickey" cannot be set within a world file
18:42.22remote:(
18:58.44blast007yep
18:59.11blast007I use a shared config file between my various servers
18:59.19blast007that file contains stuff like the publickey
18:59.32blast007and then I include that shared config inside my per-server config
18:59.48blast007-conf ../shared/config
18:59.53blast007-world blah.bzw
18:59.53blast007etc
19:03.23remoteah cool
19:12.49remotehow can I know if my publickey is working ?
19:13.01remotethe server has not shown in list for ~10 minutes
19:15.27remotemight it be due to DNS not resolving correctly?
19:15.28blast007you can turn on level 4 debugging, which I think shows the HTTP responses
19:15.39blast007what's the hostname you're using?
19:15.43remotei mean, it should be resolving but it's still fresh
19:15.45remotebzbz.tuxpirate.com
19:16.00blast007resolves to 184.107.242.83 on the list server
19:16.10remotei changed it to 82
19:16.25blast007then you'll have to wait a while
19:16.43remoteok
19:16.44blast007another 26 minutes or so, it looks like
19:17.01remotealright
19:17.28remotewhere are you located blast?
19:17.34blast007the US
19:17.41remotewould you mind logging on the server 184.107.242.82:5154
19:17.47remoteand telling me how your lag is
19:52.08blast007remote: are you using -publicaddr in your config?
19:53.15remotehmm
19:53.30remoteGot line: "MSG: ADD debian.privatedns.com:5154  ...
19:53.40blast007yeah, saw that in the list server logs
19:53.49remoteyeah i don't
19:54.05blast007try adding -publicaddr bzbz.tuxpirate.com
19:54.14blast007(and if it's a non-5154 port, you have to include the port too)
19:54.21remoteok
19:54.46remoteah it works!
19:54.47remotethanks
19:54.52blast007yay :)
19:55.06blast007and then make sure to set the debug level to something more sane
19:55.11blast007-dddd will make lots of output
19:55.18blast007-dd or -ddd is probably the most you want
20:01.48remoteyeah i did that
20:07.02remotewhy do some servers constantly have observers logged in?
20:07.09remoteare they for logging or remote admin?
20:07.13blast007both
20:07.20remoteok
20:07.27blast007I don't recommend it
20:07.46blast007if the server crashes, bzadmin usually gets into an infinite loop ;)
20:08.37remotenice
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22:57.06JeffMstill no word from tim blast007 ?
23:32.16blast007~dns my.bzflag.org
23:32.19blast007nope
23:32.41JeffMsad not even a "i'm away I'll get to it soon" message
23:34.27BulletCatcherAre there any other bzflag.org DNS changes we may need in the foreseeable future?
23:34.28BulletCatcherIf so, we might as well get them CNAMEd to something we control when we get the chance.
23:34.51JeffMthat's what I was trying to get him to do last time, but he didn't do it
23:34.53blast007or we could ask for the NS records to be changed ;)
23:35.12JeffMthat should be the first request
23:35.30BulletCatcherWho wants to run the master server?
23:36.01blast007zoneedit does
23:37.29blast007I don't think one of "us" should host the DNS.. there's lots of services out there that can do it better than some self-hosted solution
23:37.41JeffMyep
23:39.04blast007trying to find the one I had found at work
23:39.12blast007think it was like $1/year/domain
23:39.19BulletCatcherzoneedit looks like it might be okay
23:39.24blast007yeah
23:39.30BulletCatcherAssuming we trust them.
23:39.39BulletCatcherI have no info on their reputation.
23:39.48blast007they've been around for a long time
23:40.02BulletCatcherso have spammers :-p
23:41.14blast007yeah, and I get great deals on these watches!
23:42.51BulletCatcherhttp://www.dnsreviews.com/hosteddns/zoneedit-reviews/ has mixed reviews
23:43.27blast007here's the other one I found: http://zonomi.com/
23:45.54BulletCatcherIs the zonomi limit of 10 records enough for us?
23:45.59BulletCatcher(for the free service)
23:46.16blast007no
23:47.03blast007not unless we kill some off
23:48.12blast007we'd also need more than one zone
23:48.27blast007.com, .net, .org
23:48.40blast007.com and .org are identical, afaik
23:48.49BulletCatcherProbably the best way to do it for free is to have the master server at bz.bzflag.bz.
23:48.51blast007but .net also has non-official stuff
23:49.05blast007*blinks*
23:49.07blast007no thanks
23:49.09BulletCatcherbrlcad will give several of us access to change it.
23:49.31blast007I would pay for DNS myself before we'll do that
23:49.37BulletCatcherk
23:50.44blast007I mean, really, Tim's domain registrar likely already provides DNS hosting for free
23:50.49blast007most of them do
23:51.27blast007if he used namecheap.com, it would even let him delegate control of DNS to additional people
23:51.52JeffMI think he's with something old
23:52.01JeffMlike before registrars existed
23:52.09blast007GoDaddy
23:52.23blast007the evil registrar
23:52.28JeffMnetwork solutions
23:52.29blast007;)
23:52.44Cobra_Fastdo you guys have any idea or planning about the stuck-in-teleporters thing?
23:53.11blast007Cobra_Fast: use 64-bit linux - problem solved
23:53.34Cobra_Fastany idea why?
23:53.45blast007nope
23:53.47JeffMfloating point math on 32 bit linus has issues
23:54.04Cobra_Fastbut im on 32bit windows
23:54.06blast007probably some optimization that is messing stuff up
23:54.10blast007well that's different
23:54.17blast007how are you getting stuck?
23:54.35Cobra_Fastwenn im facing inwards (angle) while still touching the outer wall
23:54.40Cobra_Fasti cant pass through
23:56.21Cobra_Fastwant to test?
23:56.31blast007nah
23:56.40Cobra_Fastcan i try fix?
23:56.46blast007we'll have to look into it when we next break protocol
23:58.47Cobra_Fasthow does this have to do with the protocol?
23:58.57JeffMso everyone has the same behavor
23:59.24Cobra_Fastyeah but people dont
23:59.46JeffMthats why we try to give them best possible footing

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