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| 00:22.25 | JeffM | ts3d: it should not quit, it should just minimize |
| 00:22.32 | JeffM | tho that screws up the VC debugger |
| 00:38.14 | ts3d | Did this outside the debugger |
| 00:38.27 | ts3d | I'm investigating that hunt bug. |
| 00:39.34 | ts3d | do all key events go through doKeyCommon in playing.cxx? |
| 00:52.24 | ts3d | Nvm. Disregard that question. |
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| 01:09.20 | ts3d | obs bug is 100% reproducible |
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| 01:59.31 | ts3d | helo mds |
| 02:05.59 | ts3d | Is the hunt selection considered part of the HUDui code? |
| 02:12.03 | mdskpr_ | maybe scoreboard? |
| 02:17.44 | ts3d | found it. |
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| 02:28.30 | ts3d | What should the correct behavior for hunt selection while moving? Stop the tank while selecting? |
| 02:28.42 | ts3d | be* |
| 02:32.17 | JeffM | if I am using the mouse why would you punish me for selecting something? |
| 02:33.27 | ts3d | right... |
| 02:34.01 | JeffM | personaly I don't like the hunt feature, makes bullying to easy. but it should use different keys then movement, like pageup/down |
| 02:35.13 | ts3d | I don't use the feature myself |
| 02:35.54 | ts3d | forward movement gets stuck aswell |
| 02:36.14 | JeffM | it was a bad design choice to use the same keys |
| 02:36.23 | JeffM | the fix is to make a better design choice |
| 02:36.36 | JeffM | are they tied to the same binding event? |
| 02:37.30 | ts3d | Yup, playing.cxx looks with c with classes. |
| 02:37.51 | ts3d | Dunno, about the binding. |
| 02:37.56 | JeffM | best fix is to make hunt up/down use it's own event type |
| 02:38.06 | JeffM | then by default bind it to like page up/down |
| 02:38.20 | JeffM | then if people want the old behavor they can bind it to arrow up/down |
| 02:38.27 | JeffM | but it gives them the options |
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| 03:11.37 | ts3d | I'm lost. I'll try this tomorrow. |
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| 12:51.40 | joevano | Thumper_: pipe has been ordered... install most likely early January, 50MB fiber |
| 13:04.04 | blast007 | joevano: 50MB or 50Mb? :) |
| 13:04.43 | blast007 | either way, niiice |
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| 18:02.05 | blast007 | hi WarPig :) |
| 18:02.30 | blast007 | nice load average on bzflag.bz |
| 18:02.37 | blast007 | almost up to 15 now |
| 18:02.45 | blast007 | woo, 15.09 |
| 18:02.55 | JeffM | is that why it's slow? |
| 18:03.01 | JeffM | what's he doing? |
| 18:03.11 | WarPig | blast007: Hi |
| 18:03.12 | blast007 | apache is doing stuffs |
| 18:03.20 | kierra | oh wonderful global....... |
| 18:03.21 | JeffM | suck |
| 18:03.45 | blast007 | quick, reboot the server! |
| 18:03.52 | blast007 | that always works for Windows |
| 18:04.50 | JeffM | when do you feel you will be ready to move auth and forums? |
| 18:05.20 | blast007 | I'm pretty much ready already |
| 18:05.32 | JeffM | when do you want to do it? |
| 18:05.48 | blast007 | I'll see what I can do this weekend |
| 18:06.38 | blast007 | I'm hoping that mod_proxy is enabled on .bz so I can pipe the requests for my.bzflag.org through to the new server while DNS gets updated |
| 18:06.53 | JeffM | that would be nice |
| 18:07.02 | blast007 | I'll try that the reverse way first to make sure that actually works |
| 18:08.04 | blast007 | I've been using that here at work to get around the issue of limited public IPs - so far so good here, so should work equally well for this |
| 18:09.31 | JeffM | kierra, I'm sure the 25 people playing BZ will be fine :) |
| 18:11.29 | blast007 | weeee "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) [2002]" |
| 18:11.50 | JeffM | can you tell who the main connections are from? |
| 18:11.52 | blast007 | Game Over. Insert Coin. |
| 18:13.45 | JeffM | are any leagues still hosted on .bz? |
| 18:13.51 | blast007 | no |
| 18:13.58 | blast007 | I'm hosting the ducati site |
| 18:14.03 | JeffM | that's good |
| 18:16.02 | blast007 | good number connections from this IP: https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_216.105.208.2 |
| 18:16.22 | blast007 | was around 14 connections, down to 6 now |
| 18:18.54 | kierra | smacks JeffM a good one |
| 18:19.37 | blast007 | kierra: of course, that smack is delayed by 5 minutes because the server is so slow, so he can easily dodge it ;) |
| 18:20.01 | kierra | he cant dodge forever |
| 18:20.10 | blast007 | ooo, I think we hit a 20 load average |
| 18:20.20 | blast007 | let's go for the high score! |
| 18:20.57 | JeffM | I know kung fu |
| 18:21.14 | JeffM | and smacks don't change the truth |
| 18:26.04 | blast007 | oo, now I broke it good |
| 18:26.15 | blast007 | restarted mysql and I don't think it came back :P |
| 18:27.01 | blast007 | oh there it goes.. slowly... almost there ... *goes to lunch* *comes back* Hey, it loaded! |
| 18:29.55 | kierra | the truth is Leadership killed bzf starting from the top and filtering down |
| 18:30.16 | blast007 | leadership? what leadership? |
| 18:30.35 | kierra | those with titles :) |
| 18:30.42 | kierra | ownerships |
| 18:30.56 | kierra | he who must not be named |
| 18:31.07 | blast007 | points at kierra's 'title' of 'player' |
| 18:31.22 | kierra | :) |
| 18:31.24 | blast007 | we all have titles ;) |
| 18:31.27 | brad | ~spank TimRiker |
| 18:31.27 | ibot | ACTION bends TimRiker over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on TimRiker's pasty white buttocks. |
| 18:31.28 | kierra | I do what i can |
| 18:31.50 | kierra | with the meager skills that i have |
| 18:31.55 | TheRedBaron | its me, I broke bz :( |
| 18:31.56 | kierra | none in coding |
| 18:32.20 | blast007 | kierra: I have a 3D Game Development book I could loan you ;) |
| 18:33.08 | blast007 | last pid: 75064; load averages: 20.70, 16.90, 14.39 |
| 18:33.16 | blast007 | was at 22 for a bit ;) |
| 18:34.20 | kierra | see, even that is greek to me |
| 18:34.33 | kierra | TheRedBaron: is he making fun of me? |
| 18:35.00 | blast007 | that's the system load |
| 18:35.13 | TheRedBaron | I will neither confirm, deny, or be implicated in any form. |
| 18:35.23 | blast007 | essentially how many processes are requesting "cpu time" at the same time |
| 18:35.28 | kierra | so much for blood loyalty |
| 18:35.37 | blast007 | generally you want to keep that at or below the number of CPU cores |
| 18:35.58 | blast007 | so when we're hitting a 22 load on a single-core system, that's around 22 times what you want :P |
| 18:36.31 | TheRedBaron | blast007: have you tried pressing the turbo button? |
| 18:36.33 | blast007 | (that's a simplification of course.. I don't know if FreeBSD calculates the load average differently) |
| 18:36.44 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: I'll have support try that :P |
| 18:37.02 | TheRedBaron | Works every time for me :D |
| 18:37.11 | blast007 | hmm, support said they hit that and the server launched itself into a wall now. thanks. :P |
| 18:37.46 | blast007 | sigh... |
| 18:37.48 | blast007 | [blast@bz (Wed Nov 02 14:34:32) ~/apachetop-0.12.6]$ make |
| 18:37.49 | blast007 | make: Permission denied |
| 18:37.51 | TheRedBaron | Sounds like their rackmounts weren't up to par |
| 18:38.25 | blast007 | oh well, I guess I'll just let it go and see if it fixes itself |
| 18:38.54 | WarPig | I like it! The 'Head in sand' approach :) |
| 18:39.20 | WarPig | Maybe it'll be OK tomorrow |
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| 18:44.36 | blast007 | if it's still foobar when I get home, maybe I'll see about migrating it sooner |
| 18:46.29 | blast007 | ah, and see, it's working better now |
| 18:46.37 | blast007 | I just had to ignore it for a few minutes |
| 18:46.50 | blast007 | a watched server never responds |
| 18:47.42 | TheRedBaron | blast007: servers are like women |
| 19:20.11 | brlcad | blast007: mod_proxy is up on the new server (.bz's replacement) but not on .bz |
| 19:20.26 | blast007 | darn, okay |
| 19:20.48 | blast007 | guess we'll just have some downtime then |
| 19:23.24 | brlcad | how so? should be possible to update dns to new server, keep the old running, let a week go by |
| 19:23.40 | blast007 | eh, nope |
| 19:23.47 | blast007 | the database is written to |
| 19:24.06 | blast007 | if someone gets a token on the old server and the new server tries to check it, it won't work |
| 19:24.27 | blast007 | so I will be shutting the other stuff off when I make the switch |
| 19:24.48 | brlcad | if someone gets a token on the old server, it should be getting checked against the old server, no? |
| 19:24.59 | blast007 | not necessarily |
| 19:25.13 | blast007 | the token is requested on the game client, and checked from the game server |
| 19:25.30 | blast007 | nothing says that both will have the same DNS resolution |
| 19:25.31 | brlcad | it'd only matter in whatever short window where a token is requested, dns finally updates, then token is validated |
| 19:25.45 | brlcad | sure, but that's a pretty small window, not at all likely |
| 19:26.04 | blast007 | guess the TTL is set to 5 minutes |
| 19:26.06 | brlcad | at least no reason to turn anything off until you know dns propagated |
| 19:26.24 | blast007 | forum will be turned off for sure |
| 19:26.42 | blast007 | since I'm not going to keep resyncing that |
| 19:26.53 | blast007 | I'll leave the list up though |
| 19:27.20 | blast007 | and stats I'm not migrating |
| 19:27.23 | brlcad | just because it's on doesn't mean you need to resync it :) |
| 19:27.37 | brlcad | could just put up a banner saying "reboot" :) |
| 19:27.50 | blast007 | what? |
| 19:28.46 | brlcad | once you migrate to the new server, dns is updated so as soon as a user's dns updates they won't be getting the old server |
| 19:29.08 | brlcad | the issue is only with users whose dns hasn't updated yet, so they get the old site for a few minutes, big deal |
| 19:29.46 | brlcad | even if it was 48 hours, a few posts that they'll have to repeat, but then few even read it |
| 19:29.48 | blast007 | I was talking about turning off the forum on the old server after I move the database/files to the new server, regardless of DNS changes |
| 19:30.31 | brlcad | right, and I'm saying "why bother" .. there's no harm being done, it's a forum |
| 19:31.01 | brlcad | whereas shutting it off will likely be very confusing, more confusing than hitting a site and losing a post or two at best |
| 19:31.26 | brlcad | degraded vs non-existent from their perspective, bad ju ju |
| 19:32.02 | blast007 | confusing how? the forum will *tell* them what's going on. that's why it has a spot for a message in the maintenance mode setting. |
| 19:32.32 | brlcad | ah, that's not the same as "turning it off" to me |
| 19:32.47 | brlcad | that's putting it in offline mode with a message .. sure, works too |
| 19:34.03 | brlcad | I associate downtime with something that doesn't respond, powered off, etc |
| 19:34.23 | blast007 | they're used to that already ;) |
| 19:34.30 | JeffM | a maint. message will tell them the new URL so they will be fine |
| 19:34.40 | JeffM | since we are getting away from the "my" stuff |
| 19:34.56 | brlcad | about time |
| 19:35.01 | JeffM | indeed |
| 19:35.02 | blast007 | heck, yeah, I could just have tim make that right from the start |
| 19:35.22 | blast007 | then DNS would already be set, and we'd just make my.bzflag.org/bb/ redirect to the forum |
| 19:35.42 | JeffM | he has already made forums.bzflag.org right? |
| 19:36.05 | blast007 | yeah, guess so |
| 19:36.09 | blast007 | and it's already pointing to me |
| 19:36.17 | JeffM | "it works" |
| 19:36.25 | JeffM | so yeah then the redirector can happen at any time |
| 19:36.36 | blast007 | problem solved (or actually, problem didn't exist after all..) |
| 19:36.54 | JeffM | he made all of the ones you asked when he did the last set of changes IIRC |
| 19:37.03 | blast007 | forgot about that |
| 19:37.26 | brlcad | you could also just add a redirect to the apache config |
| 19:37.35 | blast007 | that's what I'll do now |
| 19:37.41 | brlcad | don't believe mod_proxy is needed for that |
| 19:37.43 | blast007 | right |
| 19:37.56 | blast007 | my.bzflag.org/bb/* -> forums.bzflag.org/* |
| 19:38.29 | brlcad | "Redirect 301 /bb forums.bzflag.org" should do the trick |
| 19:38.31 | brlcad | or something similar |
| 19:39.02 | brlcad | probably: Redirect 301 /bb http://forums.bzflag.org |
| 19:39.42 | blast007 | yep |
| 19:40.26 | blast007 | BZFlag 2.0 server will have to be restarted :) |
| 19:40.40 | brlcad | DDoS has been hitting .bz for a few hours now, doesn't seem to be repeat IPs, just heavy load |
| 19:40.49 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:41.15 | blast007 | I was seeing double digit connections from sweden, france, etc |
| 19:47.52 | brlcad | firewalled a few suspect IPs, one subnet with lots of ips and no rdns |
| 19:48.41 | brlcad | seems to be regaining control |
| 19:53.55 | brlcad | there we go |
| 19:54.33 | blast007 | that looks much better ;) |
| 19:55.54 | brlcad | that anon subnet with no rdns seemed to be part of the problem |
| 19:57.05 | blast007 | they were doing it for the lulz |
| 19:57.13 | blast007 | but now they lost the game |
| 19:58.07 | brlcad | msnbot seemed to be hitting up the server hard at the same time too |
| 19:59.03 | TheRedBaron | we are actually on anon radar? |
| 19:59.23 | TheRedBaron | Cultural victory? |
| 19:59.31 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: different "anon" |
| 19:59.49 | brlcad | hosts without a reverse dns record |
| 20:00.04 | brlcad | apparently we're also not the first to get chewed up by msnbot: http://blogs.perl.org/users/cpan_testers/2010/01/msnbot-must-die.html |
| 20:00.28 | brlcad | blocked the same subnets |
| 20:01.19 | brlcad | apparently a crawl-delay rule might help, otherwise they go hog nuts |
| 20:09.56 | blast007 | sounds like people were saying that it seems to ignore that anyway and just do what it wants |
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| 22:00.08 | Thumper_ | joevano: sounds good :) |
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