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| 14:46.12 | blast007 | joevano / BulletCatcher / etc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15RbOaFC98yjrhx9yWxQ6oreaJJNMI6icnnq_sUuNn_c/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1 (BZFlag.org Hosting) |
| 14:46.28 | blast007 | been looking through VPS hosts if we decide to go that route |
| 14:46.50 | blast007 | currently the forum/list/stats is on brlcad's server yet |
| 14:47.15 | blast007 | the main site, wiki, and image site is on JeffM's server, and those need to migrate soon |
| 14:47.39 | blast007 | and of the four VPS hosts on that document, ThrustVPS and Linode are ones I know have been around for some time |
| 14:48.27 | blast007 | there's also other VPS platforms at ThrustVPS - I picked Xen HVM since it sounded like it provided the most flexibility |
| 14:48.45 | blast007 | but I think it's also the most expensive option then (though still cheaper than the other providers) |
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| 16:03.38 | BulletCatcher | Hey, tupone. |
| 16:03.44 | BulletCatcher | When I run autogen.sh it creates the src/other/curl/missing file. |
| 16:03.45 | BulletCatcher | Does it not do that for you? |
| 16:04.04 | tupone | Hi |
| 16:04.34 | tupone | I dont run it |
| 16:05.02 | BulletCatcher | That would explain why you don't have that file. |
| 16:05.04 | tupone | I do autoreconf -i |
| 16:05.40 | tupone | Yeo |
| 16:05.46 | tupone | P |
| 16:07.41 | tupone | I See something like peer.deleteMe in bzfs.cxx without any assignment. |
| 16:07.56 | tupone | What it meant to be? |
| 16:07.58 | BulletCatcher | If you would use autogen.sh, as described in the README file, then most of the changes in r22119 and r22120 are unecessary. |
| 16:08.59 | tupone | I understand. But using autoreconf is more distro friendly |
| 16:09.38 | BulletCatcher | Which distro do you use? |
| 16:09.45 | tupone | I tend to use that |
| 16:10.30 | tupone | You could see in my cloack :) |
| 16:10.41 | tupone | Gentoo |
| 16:11.09 | BulletCatcher | I saw that, but decided to ask just to be sure. :-) |
| 16:13.19 | BulletCatcher | Other distros, such as Fedora, work more cleanly when the "missing" file is present. |
| 16:13.21 | BulletCatcher | It is better to include it in distributions. |
| 16:14.48 | BulletCatcher | deleteMe is just a bool variable, so there isn't any point in those "peer.deleteMe;" statements in bzfs.cxx. |
| 16:14.49 | BulletCatcher | I haven't looked to see if they can be removed or should be changed to do something. |
| 16:15.45 | tupone | Then Add it |
| 16:16.33 | BulletCatcher | It was there until you removed it in r22120. |
| 16:17.16 | tupone | I meant Add in svn |
| 16:17.33 | BulletCatcher | No, it is supposed to be a generated file. |
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| 16:24.39 | tupone | Driving and 3G on and off |
| 16:26.10 | tupone | Well that file is on the curl directory so that should not used in real distro |
| 16:26.34 | tupone | I will think about it |
| 16:26.41 | BulletCatcher | Thanks. |
| 16:27.24 | tupone | What about that deleteMe issue? |
| 16:28.32 | tupone | Is really a Jeff things but maybe you know |
| 16:30.34 | BulletCatcher | You are correct that "peer.deleteMe;" does nothing. |
| 16:31.04 | BulletCatcher | Need to look to see if should be changed to do something, or simply removed. |
| 16:32.14 | tupone | I hope you take the action |
| 16:32.29 | tupone | :) |
| 16:33.07 | BulletCatcher | It is harmless the way it is, but I'll look at it. |
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| 16:35.50 | blast007 | should probably be set to true there, no? |
| 16:35.51 | atupone | Buenos |
| 16:36.00 | atupone | Bye |
| 16:36.04 | BulletCatcher | later |
| 16:39.25 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: if you look at the second instance of that line (line 5264 for me, but that might be off a few lines) it would almost have to be setting to to true, or else the retry code wouldn't get hit |
| 16:40.09 | blast007 | sorry, or else the retry code WOULD be hit even if they are banned |
| 16:43.17 | BulletCatcher | Yup. Although it would be polite to retry sending the ban message if needed, that could cause trouble in the case of especially malicious banees. |
| 16:47.47 | blast007 | wonder if that has anything to do with hostbanned clients getting stuck when connecting |
| 16:50.01 | BulletCatcher | Those two lines (and their surrounding code) were added by JeffM in r21789 and r21790. |
| 16:50.02 | BulletCatcher | I think he just overlooked doing the assignment. |
| 16:50.18 | BulletCatcher | I'll set them to true. |
| 16:54.35 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22121 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Set deletion flag on banned network connections. |
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| 16:56.16 | BulletCatcher | That change ought to help banned clients get disconnected more quickly. :-) |
| 16:59.32 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22122 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/clientConfig.cxx: Remove any lingering displayZoom and radarShotLineType settings from the config file. |
| 17:03.29 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22123 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: |
| 17:03.29 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: Clarify the sender's view of a private action message. |
| 17:03.29 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: Remove superfluous "->" from the recipient's view of same. |
| 17:21.53 | BulletCatcher | blast007: The ThrustVPS Mystic package looks good on paper. |
| 17:21.55 | BulletCatcher | It is interesting that they show no avaiability for the cheaper packages. |
| 17:23.21 | BulletCatcher | If we can come up with a failover plan in case the VPS provider doesn't actually meet our requirements, then that will minimize the risk. |
| 17:24.16 | BulletCatcher | Would payment be made from BZFlag funds or has someone volunteered to cover the costs? |
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| 18:26.25 | randomparticle | is there a built-in function in mathematica for n-fold composition of a function? |
| 18:28.21 | meem1029 | I have no idea, but it shouldn't be hard to write such a function. |
| 18:32.47 | blast007 | randomparticle: this is the BZFlag channel... |
| 18:33.40 | randomparticle | is that metalevel on-topic? |
| 18:35.59 | randomparticle | aha. "Nest" |
| 18:42.31 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: well, currently we wouldn't be moving the critical services anyway |
| 18:42.39 | blast007 | just the main site, wiki, and images |
| 18:42.52 | blast007 | we need to move off Jeff's server |
| 18:43.31 | blast007 | list/forum/auth would still be on brlcad's server for the time being |
| 18:44.12 | blast007 | I think that would give us an idea of how it was going to perform as well |
| 18:48.47 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.47 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.48 | Tupone | on HUDRenderer.cxx does not look smart |
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| 19:51.24 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22124 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsAPI.cxx bzfsHTTPAPI.cxx): Silent unused parameter warnings |
| 19:52.54 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22125 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (effectsRenderer.cxx playing.cxx): Silent unused parameter warning |
| 19:53.34 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22126 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/BackgroundRenderer.cxx: Removing unused vars |
| 19:54.15 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22127 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: removed unused glIsEnabled |
| 19:54.59 | CIA-70 | BZFlag: 03atupone * r22128 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: Changing inizialization order |
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| 21:00.07 | Ebert | sigonausr2 is doing some interesting things lately |
| 21:01.20 | Ebert | right now hes on hosting.bzaddict.net 5227 And bzflag.ca 5160 at the same time, logged in as admin |
| 21:01.52 | Ebert | on both places |
| 21:07.06 | brlcad | Ebert: is that surprising? |
| 21:07.46 | brlcad | bzadmin lets you do that very easily |
| 21:09.13 | Ebert | he's been doing fishy things, yea i guess that ones not fishy |
| 21:09.51 | brlcad | not at all |
| 21:10.15 | Ebert | ok didnt know that, havent used bzadmin |
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| 21:12.49 | brlcad | could run bzflag twice, could have a laptop and a desktop, could be logged in at home and at work/school/wherever |
| 21:13.21 | Ebert | yea ive done that, just upset how he bans people so easily and interrupts play |
| 21:13.24 | brlcad | there is nothing fishy about that |
| 21:13.35 | brlcad | so don't play on those servers, problem solved |
| 21:13.56 | Ebert | well, theres another issue but im looking into it |
| 21:15.10 | brlcad | if it's his server setup, he's perfectly entitled to ban anyone at any time for any reason (or no reason) .. |
| 21:15.32 | brlcad | there are plenty of servers running, pick another and others will follow if it's really a problem |
| 21:15.59 | brlcad | otherwise, play by his rules when you're on his turf, even if it's a zero-tolerance or unpredictable/unstated set of rules |
| 21:16.11 | Ebert | ok thx |
| 21:16.59 | brlcad | best you can do is tell him that you think he's being a jerk or too strict or whatever, but then MOVE ON to someplace else |
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