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14:24.46ziggiedoes anyone know meppy? i sent her/him a message for some ideas and would like to get in touch with them.
14:25.09ziggiei notice that meppy doesn't post much in the forums so i wasnt sure if he'd check his messages or not.
14:29.48BulletCatcherRegistered players are notified of new BZBB mail when they join a server, increasing the chance that they will see it.
14:32.08moireeI noticed that and am wondering if perhaps because of this the unread posts since last visit gets reset everytime I play bzflag.
14:34.55BulletCatcherYour BZBB "last visit" is updated every time you play the game with your registerd callsign, but that should not affect unread articles.
14:37.00BulletCatcherUnread articles should stay that way unless you read them or you click the "Mark forums read" link.
14:41.02moireeYes, that works as expected. I meant 'New Posts', which get reset.
14:46.30BulletCatcherThat makes sense.  In this case, "new" must mean "since the last time you authenticated."
14:46.31ziggieawesome
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15:22.08ziggietrying to set up a /help directive.... I have this in my conf file: -helpmsg ziggurat /home/bzfowner/web/ziggurat/etiquette.txt
15:22.33ziggieonce logged in using bzadmin I try: /help ziggurat  and get ziggurat page not found
15:22.47ziggieI try /help <path to .txt file> and I get that it can't be opened
15:23.00ziggieany idea how i set up this help page?
15:36.21ziggieok got it figured out.... supposed to be -helpmsg <path to file> <name of page>
15:36.26ziggiegoing to update the wiki with this.
15:37.45CIA-88BZFlag: 0366.6.146.58 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r7976 10/Sample_conf:
15:38.05ziggie~give me my props~ :-o
15:38.05ibotACTION gives my props~ :-o to ziggie
15:38.17ziggiethank you ;-)
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16:52.47blast007BulletCatcher / ziggie: eventually I'd like to make logging in to the game not change the "last visit" on the forum
16:52.55blast007just need to track down what actually triggers that change
16:53.27blast007it's probably one of the phpBB functions that we call from the list, perhaps when checking the password
16:53.51CIA-88BZFlag: 0366.6.146.58 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r7977 10/Category:Map_Making: /* Creating BZW files via scripting or trivial programming */
16:54.35blast007(and then *eventually* I'd like to make our auth system independent of a forum system)  :P
16:54.55ziggiethat would be pretty cool
16:55.27blast007JeffM: I should be getting my internets hooked up today, so then I'll look at the options for relocating the BZ sites
16:55.39JeffMblast007, okeys
16:55.50JeffMdid you move?
16:55.53blast007yep
16:55.55JeffMfun
16:56.05blast00710 minute drive to work now instead of an hour
16:56.11JeffMnice
16:56.29JeffMthat helps a lot
16:56.52ziggielooking at the transparency wiki page... http://wiki.bzflag.org/Transparency#Transparency ... says to change the alpha value for "color" in a material stanza... the color line has 4 values... which one would represent the "alpha channel" ?
16:56.59blast007last one
16:57.06blast007red green blue alpha
16:57.13ziggieahh excellent
16:57.19blast007not sure what the number range is though
16:57.24blast007might be 0 to 1
16:57.25JeffMshould be 0 to 1
16:57.39ziggiei think with transparency it says to use actually a negative number :-\
16:57.45JeffMno
16:58.06JeffMwe pass it right to GL IIRC
16:58.38ziggiehm so should it be set to 0?
16:58.46JeffMthat would make it not show at all
16:58.58blast007what are you trying to do, ziggie?
16:59.01ziggiewould it then not "be" there? if it doesnt show?
16:59.05blast007right
16:59.09ziggietrying to make an invisible pyramid
16:59.13JeffMthen use 0
16:59.24JeffMyou will stil collide with it, but it will not draw
16:59.32ziggieok that's what im looking for
16:59.38blast007there's also one to control radar, though it only works with the "fast" radar modes, not normal or enhanced (iirc)
16:59.39ziggiei can still make it drive through right?
16:59.48ziggiedrive-through
16:59.49JeffMyes
17:01.03ziggiein this case, could i just use: material: color 0 0 0 0; end ? and then just reference that material with my pyramid?
17:01.10JeffMyes
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17:28.24ziggieJeffM, for some reason this is not working... http://pastebin.com/b6ZfXVM2
17:28.42ziggiewhen someone spawns on the base, you're tank is stuck
17:30.24JeffMthere is no base in that text
17:30.30JeffMso I don't know what you are talking about
17:31.23ziggiegotcha
17:32.30ziggieJeffM, here we go... http://pastebin.com/grrbm0Wb
17:41.28ziggiefound the issue i think... http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=15447
17:43.22ziggiethat's it...had to make it a meshpy
17:43.27ziggieerr meshpyr
17:43.53JeffMwhen you apply a material it shoudl be converted to a mesh
17:43.55JeffMbut whatever works
17:44.14blast007there's drivethrough bugs with "meshified" primatives
17:44.21JeffMahh
17:44.28JeffMthey on the real list?
17:44.33blast007dunno
17:44.37JeffMnot that anyone will ever fix them
17:45.23blast007works with mesh objects, just not the old style objects with mesh attributes added to them
17:45.34JeffMsad
17:49.18TD-Linuxthat's just needing the inside point thing it sounds like
17:49.52TD-Linuxis this issue in trunk?
17:50.32ziggieblast007, JeffM now the flag i have that falls in the middle of the meshpyr gets put at the top of the meshpyr instead of on the base
17:50.44ziggiewhen it's at the top you can't get it
17:50.48ziggiethis is a SW flag btw
17:51.12blast007TD-Linux: trunk and 2.0
17:51.23ziggiethis flag is a zoneflag
17:52.13blast007ziggie: can't recall ever seeing a flag sit in a pyramid, unless the pyramid was flat, perhaps
17:52.19blast007on*
17:53.31ziggiewonder if i need an extra param for the material to allow flags to fall through blast007
17:53.39blast007no
17:53.50ziggieid like the flag to spawn inside the pyr
17:53.52blast007do you have an updated pastebin?
17:53.54blast007what
17:53.56ziggiethat's not permissable?
17:54.01ziggiesure.... ill get you one
17:54.10blast007flags will not sit on a pyramid
17:54.22blast007so you would need some other object for them to sit on
17:55.03blast007you're possibly venturing into "undefined behavior" territory as well :)
17:55.21blast007some things may not behave the way you would expect
17:55.26ziggieblast007, http://pastebin.com/0rUkcbS2
17:55.37ziggieahh i got you
17:55.40ziggiethat makes sense
17:57.13ziggiemay do something else like maybe invisible walls
17:58.03blast007not saying it won't work
17:58.04blast007it might
17:58.09blast007but it might not :)
17:59.06blast007are you just wanting to SW flag to spawn on the base?
18:01.48ziggieyeah
18:02.48ziggieok just did it with meshbox walls
18:02.53ziggielooks goofy
18:02.56ziggiebut it works
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19:40.45CIA-88BZFlag: 03Joevano 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r7978 10/Sample_conf: Undo revision 7976 by [[Special:Contributions/66.6.146.58|66.6.146.58]] ([[User talk:66.6.146.58|talk]]) Not the proper place for this edit, irrelevant to the configuration
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23:12.48delusionalhttp://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/396581/september-13-2011/cnn-tea-party-republican-debate
23:13.06delusionalGrim Reaper for running mate.
23:47.16delusionalwow, just realized, wrong channel
23:47.19delusionalsorry

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