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| 01:39.19 | blast007 | randomparticle: you don't check if you violate patents. If you check if you do, then they can sue you for three times as much since they can consider it "willful violation". Welcome to US patent law. |
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| 02:01.25 | randomparticle | hehe |
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| 06:13.23 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22113 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/Makefile.am: Remove fastmap from the EXTRA_DIST list now that it is being built as usual. |
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| 06:36.50 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22114 10/trunk/bzflag/misc/ (4 files): Backport the swear lists from 2.99 revision 21379. |
| 06:38.52 | BulletCatcher | They are actually from r21233, but the revision history is intact. |
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| 14:42.36 | Supra7 | question about server permissions... what command would i give in the group file if i wanted for a particular group to be able to run *all* commands |
| 14:47.11 | BulletCatcher | GROUPNAME: ALL |
| 14:49.27 | Supra7 | thanks BulletCatcher |
| 14:49.33 | BulletCatcher | np |
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| 16:41.53 | Supra7 | any way to show scores from bzadmin? |
| 16:48.59 | blast007 | Supra7: if you're using a pdcurses build of bzadmin, press F2 and you'll get a menu |
| 16:49.44 | blast007 | (F2 again will return you to the chat line so you can chat while leaving the menu/scores/etc up top, and F2 a third time closes the menu) |
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| 16:52.33 | Supra7 | what would be the best way to go about inviting/adding "legends of bzflag" to your map's admin group? is it best to add them without invitation or maybe send a note to each of them? not sure what the protocol is here for that now that you guys use the global groups. |
| 16:53.12 | Supra7 | there are some people here i know who have been playing at least five years now and wanted to add them as an admin on the ziggurat server. |
| 16:53.56 | JeffM | tis a silly idea, but people have done it in the past |
| 16:54.05 | JeffM | just add em to the group if you want, it's your group |
| 16:54.54 | Supra7 | JeffM: you think it's a bad idea? |
| 16:55.30 | JeffM | yes, you should never blindly add admins, specialy if it's not one on one |
| 16:55.56 | Supra7 | ok |
| 16:55.58 | JeffM | who says the people in your group WANT to be admins? |
| 16:56.40 | Supra7 | yeah that's what i was wondering... i didnt know if i added certain players that they might be offended. never know with this online etiquette thing. |
| 16:57.04 | JeffM | it isn't an etiquette thing, it's a being smart about your server thing |
| 16:57.10 | JeffM | how do you know they would be good admins? |
| 16:57.27 | JeffM | how do you even know they know what your rules are? |
| 16:58.35 | Supra7 | good point JeffM |
| 16:59.17 | JeffM | if you have a group you want to approach as possible admins that's fine, send them a PM on bzbb asking them if they are interested. If some are then lay down your ground rules, if they agree add them to your admin group |
| 16:59.25 | JeffM | that's how you normaly find admins |
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| 17:26.15 | Supra7 | ok thanks JeffM |
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| 19:04.28 | Supra7 | have now a file and a -groupdb entry for it... the file has: ziggurat.admin: antiban antikick antikill antipoll ban flagHistory flagMaster hideAdmin kick kill lagstats mute sendHelp veto playerlist ... I added another user as an admin and he can't do anything as admin. I made sure i restarted the server and rejoined with the user. Did I miss a step? |
| 19:04.52 | Supra7 | the ziggurat.owner group works as expected. It has ALL as its commands though |
| 19:25.46 | blast007 | Supra7: if you do a /showgroup as that user, do you see ziggurat.admin there? |
| 19:26.09 | Supra7 | ill have a look blast007 |
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| 19:27.09 | Supra7 | blast007: it has... Global Groups (only extras) for SUPRA7: EVERYONE VERIFIED LOCAL.GLOBAL ZIGGURAT. ADMIN |
| 19:28.50 | blast007 | did you try running a ban as a test? like, try /ban 200.0.0.1 5 Test |
| 19:29.12 | Supra7 | well i did run playerlist and got only one player |
| 19:29.31 | mdskpr_ | why not try /showperms? |
| 19:29.53 | Supra7 | weird |
| 19:29.59 | Supra7 | all show up mdskpr_ except for playerlist |
| 19:30.58 | blast007 | do /groupperms and look at what permissions are set for that group |
| 19:31.46 | Supra7 | blast007: ok ... now playerlist shows up but the user can only see his own player "line" in playerlist |
| 19:32.12 | blast007 | it shows up under /groupperms? |
| 19:32.16 | Supra7 | ok everything else seems to work well. |
| 19:32.26 | Supra7 | i think ill take the hideAdmin out as well. |
| 19:34.47 | blast007 | also note that you can do '/reload groups' if you have permissions to do that - then you don't have to restart the server to reload the groupdb |
| 19:35.04 | Supra7 | ok cool |
| 19:36.00 | Supra7 | ahh there we go |
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| 19:44.54 | blast007 | Supra7: note that using bzadmin as a logger isn't recommended, since in some situations if the server crashes, bzadmin will go into an infinite loop |
| 19:45.25 | Supra7 | blast007: ok |
| 19:45.35 | Supra7 | is there a good logger plugin out there for it? |
| 19:45.48 | blast007 | depends what kind of logging you want |
| 19:45.53 | blast007 | there is logging built into bzfs |
| 19:45.58 | blast007 | and there is the logDetail plugin |
| 19:46.04 | Supra7 | well just whatever bzadmin puts out. |
| 19:46.14 | blast007 | chat and joins? |
| 19:46.28 | Supra7 | yeah pretty much |
| 19:46.31 | blast007 | cuz for that just the basic bzfs logging would work |
| 19:46.39 | blast007 | there's four debug levels |
| 19:46.43 | Supra7 | ok then you mean the output from bzfs? |
| 19:46.51 | blast007 | -d is level 1, -dd is 2, etc |
| 19:46.53 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:46.54 | Supra7 | elementary but i didnt even think of it. |
| 19:47.39 | blast007 | logDetail might be what you want though. It puts out formatted messages for stuff like player joins, chat, and so on |
| 19:47.46 | blast007 | I use that for my servers |
| 19:48.09 | blast007 | it lacks some stuff that the normal bzfs logging provides, but it has worked well enough for my purposes |
| 19:49.47 | Supra7 | hmm i think at this point bzfs out is good enough :-) |
| 19:51.55 | blast007 | k |
| 19:52.17 | blast007 | if you change your mind, logDetail is just a matter of doing -loadplugin logDetail |
| 19:52.39 | blast007 | (it's an official plugin, so if you built with plugin support, you have it) |
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| 20:07.15 | ThePurplePanzer | Not sure who's around, but my 2 servers on 2.4 no longer show up in the server list, nor can I connect to them directly; but they both seem to be running (I restarted one to see if that would fix things - no luck). This is recent behavior, in the last 24 hours. Anyone know what the problem might be? |
| 20:07.24 | blast007 | what host/port? |
| 20:07.57 | ThePurplePanzer | 1purplepanzer.hopto.org:4614 |
| 20:08.03 | JeffM | ThePurplePanzer, your membership expire? |
| 20:08.16 | ThePurplePanzer | Membership in what? |
| 20:08.22 | JeffM | bzflag |
| 20:08.26 | blast007 | the hostname is the issue |
| 20:08.43 | blast007 | 1purplepanzer.hopto.org -> 69.65.19.116 --> nx-deleted-host-1.no-ip.com |
| 20:08.58 | JeffM | ThePurplePanzer, I kidd ;) |
| 20:09.12 | JeffM | ahh his key not match his input host? |
| 20:09.14 | ThePurplePanzer | interesting! Sounds like the problem. THat was set up by Phil Matous or Thumper, don't recall which |
| 20:09.27 | blast007 | no, his dynamic hostname is deleted |
| 20:09.32 | JeffM | ahh |
| 20:09.35 | ThePurplePanzer | Let me look into that. |
| 20:09.36 | blast007 | should be pointing to mofo, iirc |
| 20:10.05 | blast007 | ThePurplePanzer: for now, you can switch to the IP of the server as your publicaddr |
| 20:10.18 | blast007 | though you might need a new key then :) |
| 20:10.18 | ThePurplePanzer | OK, will try that. |
| 20:10.29 | JeffM | good thing keys are cheap |
| 20:10.32 | ThePurplePanzer | oh yes, on key. |
| 20:10.33 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:10.34 | JeffM | 4 for a dollar |
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