IRC log for #bzflag on 20110804

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00:06.10randomparticlei've replaced gettimeofday with mach_absolute_time, and used the non-delta method
00:06.42randomparticleseems to work. 5 lines for my code, 11 for the original, 49 lines for the windows code
00:07.01randomparticlei could have made it 1 line of code, but it's 5 for legibility
00:08.26JeffMso using the code from 2.99 didn't work?
00:08.49randomparticlemy fix works
00:09.01randomparticlehaven't tried backporting
00:09.16JeffMreinvent the wheel first
00:09.32randomparticlewell, it's  a 1 line of code wheel :)
00:09.40JeffMfor your OS
00:09.49JeffMfrom code that used to be common with another OS
00:09.57randomparticlewhy's it 49 lines for windows (not counting comments and empty lines)?
00:10.07JeffMcus windows isn't posix compliant
00:10.21JeffMand the QPF is the most accurate clock
00:10.37JeffMa nessisary evil
00:11.05JeffMin .net it'd be a single object
00:11.06randomparticleby the time you've executed those 49 lines, it will be last years timestamp :)
00:11.08JeffMStopwatch
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00:13.02JeffMmost of that code is to detect clock changes due to CPU scaling
00:13.23JeffMsince QPF is a hardware clock
00:14.05JeffMI could replace it if I built BZ mixed mode
00:22.44Erroneousqpf is very, very fast.  much faster than a manged-to-native transition.
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10:34.26mimor_lo
10:35.11blast007hi
10:35.17mimor_no one seems to be playing :(
10:35.32mimor_I'm on my midday brake thought I might give it a go :)
10:36.02blast0072.0 or 2.4?
10:36.16mimor_2.0
10:37.17blast007there is a total of 8 players on 2.4 right now..heh..
10:37.46mimor_:)
10:37.54mimor_all idle admins prolly :)
10:39.40blast007no, that was players
10:39.57blast007the 2.4 list shows how many players (people joined to teams) there is
10:40.06mimor_oh
10:40.32blast007what operating system do you run?
10:45.25mimor_Arch linux
10:45.31mimor_getting the pckg now
10:45.44mimor_looks like the official repo's still nog tupdated
10:47.06mimor_let's check the new 2.4 now :)
10:47.18blast007yeah, I don't think many distros have updated packages
10:47.46mimor_whooo
10:47.51mimor_I'm in ...
10:47.54mimor_thx
10:47.55mimor_:)
10:48.40blast007:)
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14:54.19Propane_Tankanyone know the command for xchat for a double click on a nickname to open a dialog window?
14:55.06brad#xchat might know :p
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15:57.54randomparticleTimeKeeper::getCurrent(void) for Mac OS X (my version):
15:57.56randomparticlecurrentTime = 1.0e-9 * (double) UnsignedWideToUInt64(AbsoluteToNanoseconds(UInt64ToUnsignedWide(mach_absolute_time())));
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16:46.04blast007randomparticle: so have you backported the 2.99.x fix yet?  :P
16:47.41JeffMhe probably implemented an entirely new clock that works off NNTP and the hard drive seek time
16:49.23blast007< randomparticle> TimeKeeper::getCurrent(void) for Mac OS X (my version):
16:49.24blast007< randomparticle> currentTime = 1.0e-9 * (double) UnsignedWideToUInt64(AbsoluteToNanoseconds(UInt64ToUnsignedWide(mach_absolute_time())));
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16:49.46JeffMyeah I saw he did that
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16:49.55blast007k
16:50.05JeffMhence my joke of him taking it further
16:50.11JeffMhe did that BEFORE even trying the backport
16:50.18JeffMcus what we need is more #defs ;)
16:53.06randomparticlei've just diagnosed a mac os x kernel filesystem bug :--)
16:53.39randomparticlecan barely believe my luck
16:54.31randomparticlethank goodness xnu is open source
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18:39.16corndawghi guys
18:39.28corndawganyone know why im getting a make config error?
18:39.46corndawgwait nm
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19:16.00blast007corndawg: figured it out?
19:16.21corndawgyea
19:16.47corndawgdidnt know ya had to finisht he install as root
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19:27.45blast007the make install part?  yup.  at least if you don't set a prefix somewhere in your home directory (instead of letting it do the usual system-wide install)
19:38.47corndawgahh
19:38.58corndawgdamn lol Chestal is still around?
19:39.18JeffMsometimes
19:39.34corndawgah
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19:46.11CIA-5BZFlag: 0368.108.198.108 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r7899 10/DevelopmentPlans/2.4.2: /* Secondary */ Remove duplicate entry about filtering ANSI codes with -publictitle since it is in primary now.
19:46.33corndawgk, wheres the best place for maps?
19:46.48JeffMplace?
19:46.52JeffMyou mean to find them?
19:46.54corndawgor site
19:46.57corndawgyea
19:47.04JeffMthe forums have a release section for maps
19:47.12corndawgahhh kl
19:47.17corndawgill head there and check it out
20:19.49corndawgk last ?, how do you start bzfs so you can actually close the ssh window without the server dying?
20:19.59JeffMdetatch it
20:20.04JeffMor run it in screen
20:20.07corndawgin linux?
20:20.10JeffMyes
20:20.35JeffMyou need to have it background but then you can't kill it, or run it in screen and detatch from the session
20:20.50corndawgah k
20:21.00JeffMjust typing in the command runs it in that user session, and closing the ssh windows closes that user session
20:21.08JeffMso you need to run it in another session
20:21.09corndawgyea running is the background is what im after
20:21.21corndawger is = in
20:33.06blast007if you background it, you can use the -pidfile option to write the PID of bzfs to a file of your choice
20:33.19blast007I use that for my stop script so I know which process to kill
20:34.34blast007and by "background it" I mean having a & after the command which returns you to a shell
20:37.01blast007the easier way to do it initially is to use screen as JeffM said.  then you just have a window in there per bzfs you want to run, and you can kill one by just doing ctrl-c
20:42.57JBdiGrizscreen for the win. You can also leave an irc session open forever. :)
20:49.45joevanoJBdiGriz: or until the power goes out longer than your battery holds out
20:55.57JBdiGrizMy server is on a UPS. It should hang on for about 15-30 minutes.
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21:03.12corndawgsame here, vps
21:12.37JeffMor untill the IRC client eats all ram and swap and some one turns it off on you ;)
21:22.05corndawglol
21:44.40JBdiGrizIt's nice being in control of your own server (physical as well). I can lock it in the closet, and nobody else in the family touches it.
21:46.07JBdiGrizirssi seems to be a well behaved client. You just have to be able to tolerate CLI. :D
21:46.20JeffMif you have a non buggy version
21:46.31JeffMit was a buggy set of scripts that killed .bz in the past
21:46.53JBdiGrizBugs in the script or bugs in irssi?
21:48.39JBdiGrizI haven't updated irssi in a long time, and I haven't updated the server kernel in a long time either. Since things are working, I prefer to leave them alone.
21:48.57JBdiGrizOf course, I'm receiving a new machine so everything will change next week.
21:55.12JeffMwe were not sure
21:55.25JeffMit was just less then awesome
21:55.51JeffMbut thankfully, only 3 more things to move off of the old server to the new one :)
21:56.05JBdiGrizAnd when you asked the developers they replied "Patches welcome"
21:56.18JeffMit wasn't our process
21:56.26JeffMit was sportchicks
21:56.58JeffMwe just killed it and let the list server work again :)
22:10.17blast007corndawg: UPS != VPS ;)
22:10.48corndawglol
22:11.08corndawgive got a server as well, its almost working haha
22:11.16blast007UPS is a battery backup
22:11.19corndawgdell 2500
22:11.32JeffMhopefuly a vps would have a ups
22:11.45corndawgah, yea, mistook the u for a v
22:13.59corndawgso anywho, thanks for the & trick, worked like a charm
22:14.09blast007:)
22:14.26blast007eventually I'll probably publish my hosting scripts
22:14.47blast007just not stable enough yet
22:15.01corndawgah
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