IRC log for #bzflag on 20110730

00:32.43Propane_Tanki know this isn't the proper channel, but anyone here mind helping me use ssh keys instead of the insecure password authentication?
00:34.03Propane_Tanki have some help document up on linode.com but it's confused the hell outa me
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10:12.50jh`where is 2.4 config file located
10:13.07jh`in windows
14:51.23CIA-5BZFlag: 03blast007 * r22100 10/trunk/web/mainsite/motd.php: Fix some warnings in the code, and make the RSS somewhat valid.
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15:16.17blast007Propane_Tank: I believe there is an LDAP authentication extension for mediawiki that you could look at if you were wanting to integrate a different auth system
15:32.08KTLmmm great... plane lands in guyana, breaks in 2 pieces on the runway, passengers climb out, a cab comes by and asks money to drive a passenger to the terminal
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15:32.23Gabe_G23:O
15:32.30jh`where is 2.4 config file located?
15:32.33jh`client
15:32.45Gabe_G23What OS
15:32.51jh`windows
15:35.39Gabe_G23C:\Users\<yourusername>\AppData\Local\BZFlag\2.4\
15:41.33jh`thx
15:41.42jh`in new to windows 7, it was hidden
15:48.08CIA-5BZFlag: 03A11 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r7895 10/Config_File: /* Linux and unix platforms */ updated to version 2.4
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17:00.24blast007JeffM: fastmap seems to be working properly now
17:00.31JeffMhuzah
17:00.59JeffMhow are we doing on the rest of the bugs?
17:01.02blast007also, the main site is moved to the your server
17:01.07JeffMooooooo
17:03.37blast007gonna start rewriting the backend of the main site now
17:04.07blast007and I'm planning to use Mercurial instead of SVN :)
17:04.40JeffMk
17:04.46JeffMwhere will you host it?
17:05.18blast007your server
17:05.24blast007oh
17:05.24JeffM<PROTECTED>
17:05.29blast007the repo you mean?
17:05.29JeffMnever tried to set up hg
17:05.31JeffMyeah
17:05.32blast007bitbucket
17:05.36JeffMk
17:05.51JeffMhad git setup on my machine, didn't like that every user had to have a local user
17:06.12blast007going to use the super cool mvcish framework (that a super awesome guy is making *cough cough* )
17:07.29JeffMdo you want to do that or move auth first?
17:08.00blast007shrugs
17:25.28JeffMDTRemenak, we have to reboot OC, you'll loose teamspeak for a bit
18:00.27BulletCatcherHere is a cartoon especially for JeffM: http://www.gocomics.com/cornered/2011/07/29/
18:02.15blast007hehe
18:03.31JeffMheh
18:08.41BulletCatcherJeffM must have died laughing.
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18:19.14CIA-5BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r7896 10/DevelopmentPlans/2.4.2: /* Features */ mark that fastmap is fixed
18:19.34JeffMThumper_, you going to do bzfschron?
18:20.05Thumper_JeffM: I'm going to try - do we have a deadline yet?
18:20.15JeffMI'd like to shoot for the end of august
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18:20.29Thumper_ok
18:20.44Thumper_we want the one from trunk backported right?
18:20.45*** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://my.BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || BZFlag 2.4.2 is in devlopment, please take a task || The PLAN http://my.bzflag.org/w/Development_RoadMap
18:20.49JeffMyes
18:21.02JeffMunles you can think of a better way to write it
18:21.19Thumper_I know I don't want the old one that mofo is using :)
18:21.41JeffMok
18:22.07JeffMDTRemenak, if you are awake, are you willing to do the joystick stuff?
18:23.26JeffMBulletCatcher, that bz game is the entire reason I purchased a SGI machine
18:33.38AAA_awrightJeffM: What do you mean every user had to have a local user?
18:34.00JeffMAAA_awright, every git user had to have a user on the linux machine as far as I could see
18:34.25AAA_awrightFor doing what?
18:34.37JeffMusing GIT
18:34.54AAA_awrightWell if you want to login to the machine that has nothing to do with using software?
18:35.14JeffMthe only way I could see to use git was to use ssh to tunnel in
18:35.23JeffMso you had to log into the machine
18:35.44JeffMperhaps the info I found on setting it up just didn't cover how to make it work more like SVN
18:36.34AAA_awrightAll you need is some way to push changes, you can use ssh, you can use a user account or setup a dedicated 'git' user to do that, or use WebDAV
18:37.02JeffMok
18:37.04JeffMgood fo rit
18:37.07JeffMfor it :)
18:37.09AAA_awrightAll the DVCSes work pretty much the same way in this regard
18:37.15JeffMI was unable to get that to work
18:37.23JeffMbut then I didn't have tons of time to set it up
18:37.41JeffMI know it's possible, since I assume GIThub dosn't give everyone a user :)
18:38.11BulletCatcherNot using ssh (or similar) would require a dedicated server process with its own authentication scheme.
18:38.12BulletCatcherIt could also be done via a web server.
18:38.23AAA_awrightGitHub lets you use a private key, connect with a "git" user, or https I think
18:38.29JeffMok
18:38.38JeffMI got SVN working and that's good enough for me
18:38.43AAA_awrighthttps://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite/ is the most popular program to use for access control I believe
18:42.04JeffMfun
18:49.08jcp|1JeffM: Fraps doesn't do what I want. If BZFlag could record locally, then you could take different perspectives while watching a playback
18:49.21JeffMsorry
18:49.27jcp|1hm?
18:49.35JeffMbzflag can't do everything
18:50.04JeffMthere is an enhancment to redo the recording system when simulation is redone
18:50.28JeffMat that point the client and server will probably use the same simulation code that will support serialization so then you could record on the client
18:51.50JeffMyou would still need a local server for playback as the client can not create a worldstate
19:00.22JeffMdo we have poll mute?
19:00.28JeffMand should we?
19:00.42JeffMcus local mute shoudl be fine I'd think
19:03.01BulletCatcherI see no support for poll mute.
19:04.33JeffMker-closed
19:05.14JeffMcan you not make a poll for anything even if it has no effect?  like a poll for "shut the heck up"?
19:05.40BulletCatcherYou can do that with set, such as /pool set JeffM on fire
19:05.48JeffMok
19:06.32ruskieomg... bug noise on an ancient bug of mine
19:06.39ruskiehmm feature request even
19:06.52JeffMyeah I'm going thru them
19:07.37JeffMcouple of them are rather good ideas
19:08.20JeffMtho I am about ready to reject any request called "another new flag" ;)
19:10.23BulletCatcherThat may be reasonable if new flags can be created with plugins.
19:10.44JeffMI closed a bunch with that reasoning
19:10.47DTRemenakmost cannot be
19:10.51JeffMmostly I'm just sick of the title being that
19:11.04JeffMI mean come on be a bit more descriptive :)
19:11.32DTRemenakplugin flags don't allow any gfx changes, for instance.  just means plugin devs don't have to use "useless" for everything.
19:11.52JeffMonce server side lua is in then can do a lot more
19:11.56JeffMsorry client side lua
19:12.05JeffMand better simulation on the server
19:12.12DTRemenakyup, and if we put the flag/shot split back in we'll get more too
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20:13.48blast007JeffM: a poll mute wouldn't be useful since a rejoin gets rid of mutes
20:13.53JeffMindeed
20:13.59JeffMI closed it rejected
20:14.20blast007unless we get a mute system in like the ban system (ipmute/hostmute/idmute)
20:14.36blast007but that's far more work and less likely to happen right now
20:14.40JeffMif you do that may as well do permisions based on that
20:14.43JeffMthen you can do anything
20:14.47JeffMnospawn based on IP/host etc..
20:15.01JeffMtechincaly we have ID mute now
20:15.14blast007via groups, yeah
20:15.40blast007just not as easy as doing /idmute +180 30d shut up blast
20:15.54JeffMsure
20:16.10JeffMbut that could just hook into the same system
20:16.24JeffMjust have it set a perm :)
20:21.58JeffMcan seer see IB?
20:34.14BulletCatcherYes, SE reveals IB bullets.
20:35.26JeffMthanks
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21:01.20JeffMthere we go, down to 44 open feature requests
21:01.55JeffMdoes not know how many times he typed "no ramps" and "no turrets"
21:03.37Gabe_G23lol
21:07.43JeffM96 patches to eval next, but lunch first
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22:02.55JeffMhmm wonder if I flooded out TimRiker's email with sf stuff like I did my own :)
22:06.43blast007hmm, a Nokia N800 gets pretty warm when running BZFlag :)
22:10.04blast007got a debian chroot on it for something else, then got the bright idea to see if BZFlag was in the repo.. and it was
22:10.18blast007took a bit of toying to get it to run after that since the x server doesn't have GLX
23:03.03JeffMbleh... patches finaly done
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23:21.16JeffMdid do an evil laugh every time he closed/rejected a patch from Pimpinella :)
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