| 00:10.50 | delusional | is it just me, or is the 2.4 listserver down? |
| 00:11.54 | PlasticTank | Just you |
| 00:12.14 | bryjen | its the same one |
| 00:13.37 | delusional | gah, i have 3 client versions... thought I only had 2 |
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| 02:02.19 | randomparticle | i've compiled bz and it wants /usr/local/lib/libcares.2.dylib which doesn't exist, so it doesn't run |
| 02:02.26 | randomparticle | mac |
| 02:02.56 | randomparticle | do i need to configure it in a special way? |
| 02:04.16 | McSpider | yeah, add --enable-ares-build |
| 02:05.01 | randomparticle | have tried that |
| 02:05.24 | randomparticle | the library is here: ./src/other/ares/.libs/libcares.2.dylib |
| 02:05.32 | McSpider | which os version? |
| 02:05.37 | randomparticle | 10.6.7 |
| 02:06.28 | McSpider | works fine for me with --enable-ares-build and I'm on the same os. |
| 02:06.45 | McSpider | might try doing make clean then ./autogen etc |
| 02:06.49 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 02:07.40 | randomparticle | maybe i should delete the whole directory and check it out again |
| 02:08.22 | McSpider | make clean should clean it sufficiently, but sure you could do that |
| 02:21.35 | randomparticle | ok, runs now. thanks |
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| 02:25.10 | McSpider | yep |
| 02:28.39 | randomparticle | jumps feel more springy for some reason. wonder why |
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| 02:54.46 | randomparticle | in FontManager.cxx you have glGetBooleanv(GL_DEPTH_WRITEMASK, &depthMask) in a loop |
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| 02:55.25 | randomparticle | would be best to move that out of the loop for efficiency |
| 02:55.46 | randomparticle | since the value of depthMask probably isn't going to change |
| 02:58.04 | JeffM_ | font manager will be totaly replaced at some point |
| 02:58.12 | JeffM_ | bzflag dosn't really need more fps ;) |
| 02:58.31 | randomparticle | for now i'm hacking my client to have: GLboolean depthMask = 1; |
| 02:58.45 | JeffM_ | whatever floats your boat |
| 03:00.15 | JeffM_ | at some point we should move the font manager from 2.99 into 2.4 or 2.6 |
| 03:09.20 | JeffM_ | he must have quit because of the mad high FPS he was getting with the change |
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| 04:01.58 | sms | for ubuntu 8.04, I should be compiling from source? |
| 04:11.28 | QuantumBeep | What would cause "Peer 63.246.136.16 connection timeout with data """ |
| 04:11.41 | QuantumBeep | (that's bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 04:11.58 | QuantumBeep | I've ruled out a firewall or other internet access issue on the server side |
| 04:13.03 | QuantumBeep | I beleive this means BZFS and the listserver aren't talking, but I can't figure what to do about it |
| 04:13.32 | blast007 | QuantumBeep: that's normal |
| 04:13.40 | QuantumBeep | ah cool |
| 04:13.58 | QuantumBeep | then problem I thought it was causing remains - players join, but cannot spawn |
| 04:14.09 | QuantumBeep | and auth status symbols do not appear on scoreboard |
| 04:14.17 | blast007 | the list server connects back to the server when it gets an 'ADD' operation |
| 04:14.26 | QuantumBeep | nbut flags appear on rader and HUD just fine, so it ain't that |
| 04:14.46 | blast007 | you have a public key set? |
| 04:14.50 | QuantumBeep | I do |
| 04:15.00 | QuantumBeep | my server shows up public just fine |
| 04:15.12 | blast007 | hmmm |
| 04:15.58 | QuantumBeep | ah, I'm a moron |
| 04:16.02 | QuantumBeep | don't have debugging on |
| 04:17.38 | blast007 | sms: for now, yes |
| 04:18.45 | blast007 | not sure if 2.4 packages would ever get built for 8.04 |
| 04:19.20 | sms | after apt-get 'in similar packages to what was said in README.Linux, it seems to be rolling along (make) |
| 04:20.57 | blast007 | you can install the game into your home dir if you want |
| 04:20.59 | sms | blast007: probably not a big target... but I do "multiseat" 2 Xorg sessions and OpenGL for 2 login users. it was easy on 8.04.. gnome team broke some stuff |
| 04:21.41 | blast007 | (via --prefix on the call to configure) |
| 04:22.24 | sms | I'm cool with /usr/local... thanks for the hel[p |
| 04:31.02 | QuantumBeep | blast007, looks like it's soething about flags - I disable all flags, it works |
| 04:31.08 | QuantumBeep | I'll firgue it out |
| 04:41.38 | QuantumBeep | Aha, this is interesting |
| 04:41.43 | QuantumBeep | I can have up to 68 flags |
| 04:42.12 | QuantumBeep | increase it to 69 in any combination, and players joining can't spawn or talk, and the authentication characters never show on the scoreboard. |
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| 05:42.42 | BulletCatcher | QuantumBeep: We have a test map with 126 flags that works fine. |
| 05:42.43 | BulletCatcher | What are some of the other characteristics of your map? |
| 05:44.00 | BulletCatcher | And the all-important question: how well does it work with a 2.0.16 server? |
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| 10:40.32 | blast007 | QuantumBeep: was that a server on Windows? if so, that's a known issue. Windows seems to have a smaller TCP send buffer (or something like that), so too many flags fills up the buffer and drops the connection. |
| 10:57.23 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I managed to find ISOs for Mandrake 9.1.. I'll see if I can get a VM up and running with that :) |
| 10:57.39 | blast007 | (if that would help) |
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| 13:09.54 | ahs3- | There is a player on bloodbath with high jitter 30ish, the gravity on this tank is random. possibly a bug? |
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| 14:29.55 | blast007 | ahs3-: hard to say |
| 14:48.08 | BulletCatcher | blast007: That's a lot of effort, but might be worth it if we can develop a configure test that will tell the difference between c-ares and ares. |
| 14:49.00 | blast007 | It's mostly installed |
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| 15:28.48 | ahs3- | blast007, another tank with the same problem, all windows clients so far |
| 15:28.56 | ahs3- | on badgerking now |
| 15:30.13 | blast007 | hmm |
| 15:30.25 | ahs3- | it seems to come and go |
| 15:30.30 | ahs3- | shot speed changes too |
| 15:30.36 | ahs3- | tank speed |
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| 17:26.43 | joevano | blast007, Constitution : thoughts on propane tanks advertisement banner ad in his profile |
| 17:27.10 | joevano | I deleted his blatent advertising post already |
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| 17:31.11 | blast007 | he made a POST about it? wtf. |
| 17:33.11 | joevano | yep... woke up a 6 month old thread to "suggest" that they use "this host" and then I am assuming it was a referal link |
| 17:33.27 | blast007 | the one is his signature is, at least |
| 17:33.33 | blast007 | has an affiliate code |
| 17:34.04 | joevano | yeah i assumed it did the same |
| 17:34.30 | blast007 | I have removed his sig |
| 17:35.36 | joevano | cool... was going to do that as well but thought maybe I was over-reacting (guess not) |
| 17:36.39 | blast007 | if he wants to throw up an ad on his own site (and even if he then links to his site from the forum), fine :) but not a direct link like that.. |
| 17:37.06 | blast007 | and wow does this Mandrake 9.1 suck |
| 17:37.13 | blast007 | can't get it to install the menu items :P |
| 17:37.32 | blast007 | also doesn't appear to have subversion available .. |
| 17:37.43 | joevano | hehe... i tried it when it was "new" and it wasn't good even then |
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| 17:38.39 | blast007 | I had used 8.1 as my first linux, iirc |
| 17:38.51 | blast007 | and that one sucked, but at least the menu items installed :P |
| 17:44.20 | blast007 | gives up on Mandrake 9.1 for now...... |
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| 18:24.59 | bryjen | how old is Mandrake 9.1? |
| 18:26.34 | trepan | 25 February 2003 -- google "mandrake 9.1 release date" |
| 18:34.54 | KTL | that might have been one of my first linux installations ... |
| 18:35.47 | KTL | the timing is the same, i started with lnx around winter 2002-2003 |
| 18:36.07 | KTL | bzflag idem |
| 19:10.27 | bryjen | hmm. if google knows everything... and trepan knows google... does that mean trepan knows everything ? ;) |
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| 19:52.40 | trepan | doubts that google knows everything (ex: google does not know what color shirt i'm wearing) |
| 19:56.53 | KTL | " A powerful-looking man in his sixties, wearing a beautifully tailored linen suit" ? |
| 19:57.10 | KTL | (the very wild google-guess) |
| 19:59.19 | KTL | observes that googling for this leads to inca skulls with holes in them |
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| 20:31.10 | trepan | KTL: heh, not close in any sort of way; my knives aren't subtle :) |
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