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| 02:38.26 | bleach | ~seen timriker |
| 02:38.34 | ibot | timriker <~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #ldstech, 7h 9m ago, saying: 'yes. needs cleanup as he'll admit. :)'. |
| 02:38.37 | JeffM | what are you looking for? |
| 02:38.56 | bleach | a new back |
| 02:38.58 | bleach | set of lungs |
| 02:39.08 | bleach | and dinner on the table NOW |
| 02:39.16 | JeffM | not sure how tim can help you with that |
| 02:39.42 | bleach | well it was worth a try :x |
| 02:42.31 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7714 10/w/Development_RoadMap: /* 3.2 */ |
| 02:44.09 | JeffM | DTRemenak: is update notification going to make it into 2.4? |
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| 09:18.43 | Pimpinella | is there a way to check out old cvs versions? |
| 09:30.16 | ruskie | if the repo is still available sure.. if it was imported to svn then also sure |
| 09:31.31 | blast007 | pretty sure we turned CVS off |
| 09:31.40 | blast007 | but it would all be in SVN |
| 09:31.56 | blast007 | what are you looking for specifically, Pimpinella? |
| 09:35.48 | Pimpinella | revision 2.255 of bzfs.cxx |
| 09:36.52 | blast007 | do you know the commit message for that revision..? |
| 09:37.12 | blast007 | because that's the CVS numbering, so you couldn't easily find that in SVN afaik |
| 09:37.23 | Pimpinella | Give tanks unrequested flags |
| 09:38.00 | blast007 | SVN r12370 |
| 09:38.23 | Pimpinella | how would i determine that in similar cases? |
| 09:38.52 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/bzflag_svn_log.txt that's from around the time we started the 2.3.0 coding |
| 09:39.47 | blast007 | if necessary we could probablay turn CVS on temporarily, but I'd think for the most part you could just use 'svn blame' to find the right revision |
| 09:40.45 | Pimpinella | ok, ty |
| 10:22.59 | Pimpinella | things still didn't really worked for me... |
| 10:23.40 | Pimpinella | i tried 'svn cat -r 12370 bzfs.cxx' |
| 10:24.09 | Pimpinella | though it gives me a file back it doesn't to be what i expected |
| 10:24.33 | Pimpinella | svn blame doesn't even list that revision |
| 10:25.08 | Pimpinella | svn log didn't help either |
| 10:25.44 | Pimpinella | do i have to add a branch or tag or something like that? |
| 10:26.57 | Pimpinella | i'm not really comfortable with svn yet |
| 10:34.36 | Thumper_ | svn blame only gives you the last commit that touched the lines in the file. All the lines in 12370 were changed by subsequent commits so you don't see 12370 in the blame output |
| 10:52.27 | Pimpinella | Thumper_: so how can i get how that one revision looked like? or probably i can't at all? |
| 10:53.28 | Pimpinella | i thought cat would do that, but aparrently it doesn't |
| 10:56.15 | Thumper_ | You should be able to get the file out with svn cat for any revision: svn cat -r 12370 bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx >/tmp/bzfs.cxx |
| 10:56.28 | Thumper_ | Doesn't this give you the file exactly as it was in r 12370? |
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| 10:57.15 | Pimpinella | i guess no |
| 10:57.34 | Thumper_ | why do you say it is different? |
| 10:57.41 | Pimpinella | the changes that should have been made in that revision are not in there |
| 10:58.50 | Thumper_ | they are for me |
| 10:58.59 | Thumper_ | I see the searchFlag function and call |
| 10:59.14 | Pimpinella | hmm |
| 10:59.25 | Pimpinella | let me try again |
| 10:59.36 | Pimpinella | tried twice before though |
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| 11:02.49 | Pimpinella | no |
| 11:02.55 | Pimpinella | hmm |
| 11:04.09 | Pimpinella | no idea whats wrong then |
| 11:04.35 | Thumper_ | strange - the svn cat command I pasted above saves the file in /tmp/bzfs.cxx for me from the specified revision |
| 11:04.55 | Pimpinella | svn cat -r 12370 bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx > ~/bzfs.cxx |
| 11:05.00 | Pimpinella | thats what i used |
| 11:05.44 | Thumper_ | what works for me too |
| 11:05.47 | Thumper_ | static void searchFlag(GameKeeper::Player &playerData) |
| 11:06.40 | Thumper_ | (from line 2687) |
| 11:06.55 | Pimpinella | so are there probably any tags missing? |
| 11:07.07 | Thumper_ | ? |
| 11:07.17 | Pimpinella | should i have checked out with some tags? |
| 11:07.33 | Thumper_ | I don't think so. I used the command above you just pasted and got the file |
| 11:07.35 | Pimpinella | i do this on trunk |
| 11:07.43 | Thumper_ | me2 |
| 11:07.56 | Pimpinella | is confused |
| 11:09.42 | Thumper_ | I'm still on the old trunk in this svn checkout though |
| 11:09.58 | Thumper_ | tries updating to see if this changes the behaviour |
| 11:13.32 | Thumper_ | Pimpinella: okay ... now it doesn't work for me anymore |
| 11:13.49 | Pimpinella | that explains |
| 11:14.24 | Pimpinella | so i probably need an older revision to do it? |
| 11:14.41 | Pimpinella | i might have something older here |
| 11:14.54 | Thumper_ | svn cat bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx@12370 >~/bzfs.cxx |
| 11:16.38 | Pimpinella | ok, that did |
| 11:16.40 | Pimpinella | ty |
| 11:16.52 | Thumper_ | yw |
| 11:16.59 | Thumper_ | sorry about the wrong format earlier :/ |
| 11:17.24 | Pimpinella | that other format should also have done, no? |
| 11:18.04 | Pimpinella | hmm, lunch. ty much |
| 11:18.31 | Thumper_ | not sure - enjoy lunch :) |
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| 12:16.45 | KTL | fastmap server still fails with latest svn |
| 13:22.33 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21837 10/branches/experimental/v2_99continuing/bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): * renamed premake4_config/ to premake4_tools/ |
| 14:19.14 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * r21838 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Backport of tupones server side flag grab and flag ID stuff. |
| 14:20.07 | Pimpinella | should work fine now, Thumper helped me find the b0rked part |
| 14:20.09 | Pimpinella | ;) |
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| 14:31.56 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * r21839 10/trunk/bzflag/ChangeLog: modify ChangeLog |
| 14:37.17 | Thumper_ | Pimpinella: ID seems to work on the flag buffet map again :) |
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| 14:37.29 | BulletCatcher | yay |
| 14:37.51 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 14:38.27 | Pimpinella | don't ask me what might have fixed it ;) |
| 14:41.46 | Pimpinella | so, anyone can give me a hint where to find GM shot checks? |
| 14:42.27 | Thumper_ | Pimpinella: do you have the rev numbers for server side flag grab and id stuff handy? |
| 14:43.24 | Pimpinella | takes a minute |
| 14:44.37 | Pimpinella | r12367 |
| 14:45.10 | Pimpinella | r12370 |
| 14:45.17 | Thumper_ | Pimpinella: GM shot checks... is this the one you want? r12029? |
| 14:45.49 | Pimpinella | looks good, ty |
| 14:46.30 | Pimpinella | r12380 |
| 14:46.58 | Pimpinella | r12388 |
| 14:47.31 | Thumper_ | thx - it would be good if you can include the backported commit info in the commit so I don't have to ask you waht they are :) |
| 14:47.41 | Thumper_ | I'm removing these from the backport list I have |
| 14:47.43 | Thumper_ | thanks |
| 14:48.51 | Pimpinella | ok |
| 14:48.56 | Pimpinella | too late this time |
| 14:49.11 | Thumper_ | that's fine - just for future stuff |
| 14:49.25 | Pimpinella | do you want the remaining revisions? |
| 14:49.50 | Thumper_ | do you have more for the flag id/flag grab stuff? |
| 14:50.14 | Pimpinella | r12394 <- that one probably fixed the flag id |
| 14:50.28 | Pimpinella | yep one or two more |
| 14:50.36 | Thumper_ | yes please. Already marked 12394 as done |
| 14:50.42 | Thumper_ | in my list of atupone's commits |
| 14:54.39 | Pimpinella | guess thats all |
| 14:55.57 | Thumper_ | ok thanks (that's what I thought since I don't have anything else that looks like it is flag id/grab related) |
| 14:56.57 | Pimpinella | there's a goody later, but thats after Jeff started to make gross changes that we probably don't want to touch now |
| 14:58.08 | Pimpinella | r12467 |
| 14:58.24 | Pimpinella | thats the one i omitted |
| 15:06.21 | blast007 | yay |
| 15:06.50 | blast007 | now I can throw away my YesTheIDFlagIsOnTheMap() function |
| 15:13.36 | a_meteorite | man we should have someone that decides function names for you ;) |
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| 15:22.14 | blast007 | a_meteorite: yeah, probably |
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| 15:34.32 | JeffM | SF is asking for project releases in June, should I reply and say that bzflag is going to finaly have a release? |
| 15:36.01 | cygal | trepan: ^ |
| 15:36.36 | BulletCatcher | As much as anyone can predict the future, I think we will indeed release 2.4 late this month. |
| 15:38.49 | trepan | cygal: that's 2.4, not 3.0 |
| 15:39.05 | cygal | retires |
| 15:44.44 | catay | What is the plan with the former 3.0 release ? That tree will be totally abandoned ? |
| 15:45.01 | JeffM | depends |
| 15:46.26 | JeffM | if we get all the other devs back on it and it's salvageable we'll use it |
| 15:46.29 | JeffM | if not we won't |
| 15:47.44 | JeffM | I've been making a roadmap to keep all our ideas together |
| 15:47.58 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, so should I reply? see if we can get some good press? |
| 15:48.00 | catay | Biggest issue there was probably that's it's quite demotivating working on something that was quite broken |
| 15:48.11 | JeffM | catay, indeed |
| 15:48.24 | JeffM | and for that reason alone we may just pick parts out if it and make a 2.6 release |
| 15:48.44 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Development_RoadMap |
| 15:48.56 | JeffM | but if we salvage that then we go right to 3.0 |
| 15:49.12 | JeffM | if we survive this release that is |
| 15:49.18 | catay | I think that's a very good approach, happy to see there is again dev activity |
| 15:49.59 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, so I want to pull fastmap and webreports, where should I keep the code for that untill 2.4.x? |
| 15:50.08 | JeffM | in a branch with just those chunks? |
| 15:50.27 | JeffM | or leave them in and just remove them from the build? |
| 15:50.37 | JeffM | thinks the latter is icky |
| 15:50.48 | BulletCatcher | Maybe just make a note of the last rev number before deleting them. |
| 15:50.59 | JeffM | not a fan of that due to buss factor |
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| 15:51.41 | JeffM | and it's not visable if someone else wants to work on it |
| 15:52.29 | BulletCatcher | Then just add some kind of warning that they are not finished. |
| 15:52.37 | JeffM | ok |
| 15:52.46 | JeffM | "for the love of god don't run this" |
| 15:53.04 | BulletCatcher | Perhaps require some special load-time parameter. |
| 15:53.21 | JeffM | I'd rather just remove them from the build then |
| 15:53.26 | JeffM | then you have to manualy build them |
| 15:53.36 | JeffM | just don't have the makefile refernce that folder |
| 15:53.44 | JeffM | should just skip it right? |
| 15:55.04 | JeffM | our other option is to leave em there, on the 14th snap off a 2.4.0 rc branch and do all our bug fixes/removals there |
| 15:55.11 | JeffM | leaving them in trunk for 2.4.2 |
| 15:55.26 | JeffM | just means that when we fix a bug in the RC we have to merge it into trunk |
| 15:55.36 | BulletCatcher | I think if we move them from SUBDIRS to EXTRA_DIST in plugins/Makefile.am it will simply not build them. |
| 15:55.37 | BulletCatcher | Let me test... |
| 15:55.44 | JeffM | cool |
| 15:55.49 | JeffM | that would make me most happiest :) |
| 15:56.33 | JeffM | I could probably get them working but since we are close I'd rather spend the time reviewing actual bugs and not shove code in right under the wire |
| 15:56.53 | BulletCatcher | I like that plan. |
| 15:57.08 | JeffM | and it's good stuff for a .2 |
| 15:57.10 | JeffM | and a .4 |
| 16:00.17 | JeffM | if we release this am I allowed to say "I love it when a plan comes together?" |
| 16:00.26 | BulletCatcher | Yes. |
| 16:00.39 | JeffM | heh that could be the name of the release |
| 16:01.05 | BulletCatcher | I like "Wake the Dead" from the RoadMap page. |
| 16:01.32 | JeffM | pondered making it "I feel happy" |
| 16:01.44 | BulletCatcher | I am a fan of that Addams Family movie, too. |
| 16:01.55 | JeffM | addams famialy? |
| 16:02.02 | JeffM | I was thinking monty python |
| 16:02.13 | BulletCatcher | MP is "Bring out your dead!" |
| 16:02.25 | JeffM | yes, then "I'm not dead.. I feel happy" |
| 16:02.36 | JeffM | I didn't know wake the dead was from AF |
| 16:02.39 | BulletCatcher | In one of the Addams Family movies they played a game called "Wake the Dead". |
| 16:02.44 | JeffM | all I remember is made from real girl scouts |
| 16:02.52 | BulletCatcher | Uncle Fester: "You've got to *dig*!" |
| 16:02.58 | JeffM | ahh |
| 16:04.00 | Thumper_ | pulls the fastmap plugin from my trunk servers |
| 16:04.09 | JeffM | it's for the best |
| 16:04.31 | JeffM | at least the clients got changes to be compatable with HTTP that's all that matters for the breaking release |
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| 16:08.01 | BulletCatcher | The aforementioned Makefile.am change, plus removing fastmap & webreport from configure.ac, will make those plugin directories included but inert. |
| 16:08.18 | JeffM | cool |
| 16:08.28 | JeffM | that and taking them out of full build should do it |
| 16:08.37 | JeffM | and some notes in the readme files they have |
| 16:09.00 | BulletCatcher | I'll let you deal with the MSVC stuff. |
| 16:09.12 | JeffM | yeah I can do that it's easy |
| 16:10.54 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r21840 10/trunk/bzflag/ (configure.ac plugins/Makefile.am): Do not configure nor build the fastmap and webReport plugins, but keep them around for future development. |
| 16:11.12 | BulletCatcher | Linux/Mac developers should do a "make maintainer-clean" *before* updating to r21840. |
| 16:12.50 | Pimpinella | don't we have DEBUG(...) anymore? |
| 16:13.35 | Thumper_ | don't think so |
| 16:14.23 | Pimpinella | ah, it's logDebugMessage() now |
| 16:15.35 | Thumper_ | I'm not sure which one is 'newer' is 3.0 |
| 16:21.12 | blast007 | JeffM: "Still Alive" |
| 16:21.25 | blast007 | though that's too easy |
| 16:26.37 | Thumper_ | "Regurgitated" :-P |
| 16:28.38 | blast007 | what was the problem with fastmap? |
| 16:29.07 | blast007 | was *it* crashing the server, or was it just causing a situation that did so? |
| 16:29.47 | blast007 | cuz I have a backtrace from mine that was running fastmap and it doesn't seem to be related to a plugin |
| 16:29.48 | Thumper_ | probably the latter - segfault was in the HTTPApi stuff |
| 16:29.52 | blast007 | hmm |
| 16:30.03 | blast007 | mine was in logDebugMessage |
| 16:30.30 | Thumper_ | it was trying to log something but I don't have the details ATM |
| 16:30.36 | blast007 | http://pastebin.com/9fB6AuUi |
| 16:30.54 | Thumper_ | yup that looks similar |
| 16:31.51 | Thumper_ | JeffM: can/should we backport r16662 for the spin inversion bug? |
| 16:32.12 | JeffM | if you want to do it |
| 16:33.16 | Thumper_ | I'm updating the BUGS file and this is still outstanding. I'll leave it as a bug ATM and will backport it later (hopefully before the release) |
| 16:33.21 | Thumper_ | I want to get the BUGS file committed first |
| 16:34.37 | blast007 | could someone join bzexcess.com port 5000 with a 2.3 client? (it's not on the list) |
| 16:34.42 | blast007 | want to see if it crashes |
| 16:34.42 | JeffM | I'm mostly woried about 2 outstanding items, the flag ID/pickup that Pimpinella is working on and DTRemenak's update notification |
| 16:34.48 | JeffM | those are the ones I'd realy like to have in |
| 16:34.51 | blast007 | flag ID thing is in |
| 16:35.23 | JeffM | did he commit the rest of his changes? he said he was testing this weekend |
| 16:35.42 | blast007 | 09:19:14 < CIA-103> BZFlag: pimpinella * r21838 /trunk/bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Backport of tupones server side flag grab and flag ID stuff. |
| 16:35.53 | JeffM | ok good |
| 16:36.14 | Thumper_ | blast007: just a sec |
| 16:36.19 | blast007 | I have yet to test, but BulletCatcher said that flag buffer map had a working ID flag after that :) |
| 16:36.25 | blast007 | buffet* |
| 16:39.53 | Thumper_ | blast007: you still need someone to join that server? |
| 16:41.18 | Thumper_ | didn't crash |
| 16:47.37 | Pimpinella | i'm looking at the GM shot check right now |
| 16:48.24 | Pimpinella | it probably can't be done with just c&p without losing a couple of shot checks |
| 16:48.46 | Pimpinella | oh and API call |
| 16:49.10 | Pimpinella | nto sure if i can do it by end of this week |
| 16:50.12 | blast007 | hmm |
| 16:50.26 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r21841 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: Update BUGS file from old trunk |
| 16:50.39 | blast007 | Thumper_: that was a server with fastmap loaded, though the map is just a single box :) |
| 16:50.44 | Thumper_ | yes I saw that |
| 16:52.32 | blast007 | Thumper_: okay, I have a considerably larger map there now - mind trying again? should be obvious if it's using fastmap or not, as the compressed size is around half a MB |
| 16:53.01 | Thumper_ | working... |
| 16:53.11 | Thumper_ | it used to jsut do Download World... and hang |
| 16:53.15 | Thumper_ | 80% done |
| 16:53.30 | Thumper_ | connected |
| 16:54.01 | blast007 | hrm |
| 16:54.07 | Thumper_ | works |
| 16:54.21 | blast007 | darn it, why won't it crash ... :P |
| 16:54.25 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 16:54.35 | Thumper_ | I had 3 plugins loaded when it died |
| 16:54.44 | Thumper_ | I can load it up again if you want |
| 16:54.47 | blast007 | I'll try loading my normal server |
| 16:54.52 | Thumper_ | unless you fixed it already |
| 16:54.55 | blast007 | the one I had a core dump for |
| 16:55.47 | blast007 | should be a server on the list at 15155 now |
| 16:56.57 | Thumper_ | still works |
| 16:56.59 | blast007 | arg |
| 16:57.11 | Thumper_ | adds fastmap to alpine assault... |
| 16:57.19 | blast007 | perhaps you have that world file cached? |
| 16:58.08 | Thumper_ | hmm fastmap isn't built anymore though... so I'll need to 'fix' that first |
| 16:58.11 | blast007 | unless the server settings change the MD5, look for c23069ddfec5a3a4d55773d34242353b.bzc and delete that (or whatever extension it uses..) |
| 16:58.14 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:58.24 | Thumper_ | I'm not caching the map AFAIK |
| 16:59.17 | Thumper_ | .bwc I think |
| 17:01.03 | blast007 | the client caches it, I mean |
| 17:01.16 | blast007 | under ~/.bzf/cache/ iirc |
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| 17:14.59 | Pimpinella | Tupone made one function "relayMessage" that does the same as "BroadcastMessage" except that it omits bots. |
| 17:15.17 | Pimpinella | should i backport that too? |
| 17:16.00 | Pimpinella | r11985 |
| 17:16.27 | JeffM | what called it? |
| 17:17.18 | Pimpinella | it's for relaying client Messages in bzfs, 4 hits |
| 17:17.51 | JeffM | I'd rather not just move code back unless we understand why |
| 17:18.03 | Pimpinella | ok |
| 17:18.05 | JeffM | why do those 4 places need that over the existing broadcast? |
| 17:18.29 | Pimpinella | as far as i understand just to save bandwidth |
| 17:18.35 | JeffM | ah |
| 17:18.41 | JeffM | then yeah don't care about that right now |
| 17:19.37 | JeffM | I'm not a huge fan of the multiple players on a single network line |
| 17:19.58 | JeffM | I'm not convinced there is a need to have bots on the playable client |
| 17:21.06 | Thumper_ | blast007: mine crashes |
| 17:21.15 | blast007 | hrm |
| 17:21.24 | blast007 | were you running in gdb? |
| 17:21.27 | Thumper_ | I moved the .bzf/cache dir to cache.old |
| 17:21.45 | blast007 | oh, and mine crashed now too |
| 17:21.51 | Thumper_ | no bt I can do that again if you want |
| 17:21.55 | Thumper_ | but* |
| 17:22.02 | blast007 | again in logDebugMessage.. |
| 17:22.19 | blast007 | are we sending bad arguments perhaps? |
| 17:22.42 | Thumper_ | no idea - I haven't spent any time looking into it yet - other than reporting it with the stack trace to Jeff |
| 17:23.03 | Thumper_ | and if we're pulling fastmap it's probably not worth pursuing now |
| 17:23.33 | JeffM | pull fastmap |
| 17:23.39 | blast007 | but are we pulling fastmap because of this? or was there another reason? |
| 17:23.43 | JeffM | it'll be in 2.4.2 |
| 17:23.52 | JeffM | HTTP is unstable |
| 17:24.08 | JeffM | webreport has issues too |
| 17:24.13 | blast007 | k |
| 17:24.16 | JeffM | and I'd rather not squeeze it in under the wire |
| 17:24.42 | JeffM | we got the connection changes in so we can fix up HTTP in a point release |
| 17:24.49 | JeffM | then we'll have more time to work it out |
| 17:24.54 | blast007 | just worried that there's going to be a crash bug in 2.4.0 |
| 17:25.12 | JeffM | we need to test that and see if it still happens with out fast map |
| 17:25.30 | JeffM | I was not hearing about any crashes untill I had people use fastmap |
| 17:25.33 | Thumper_ | it started crashing (for me) as soon as I loaded fastmap, it was fine before (and after) so far |
| 17:25.35 | JeffM | and that's the first HTTPER |
| 17:25.38 | JeffM | yeah |
| 17:25.44 | JeffM | so I feel that it is related to fastmap |
| 17:25.52 | blast007 | thing is that the backtrace is not talking about any plugin |
| 17:25.59 | JeffM | and my testing of webadmin shows that there are issues in in the HTTP system |
| 17:26.07 | JeffM | fastmap uses stuff in bzfs now |
| 17:26.11 | JeffM | bzfsHTTP |
| 17:26.19 | JeffM | so it may not show as being inside the plugin |
| 17:26.33 | JeffM | it may also be screwing with the net sockets |
| 17:27.00 | blast007 | I'm going to poke at it some more later today |
| 17:27.00 | JeffM | by pulling the 2 HTTP plugins nothing will ever load the bzfHTTP server and it should be fine |
| 17:27.04 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:27.13 | JeffM | I just didn't want it taking time from the release |
| 17:27.21 | JeffM | if someone can make it work and prove it, great :) |
| 17:27.50 | blast007 | I'd be just happy if I can't get it to crash in a similar fashion without the HTTP plugins |
| 17:28.10 | blast007 | but if I can fix the issue, great |
| 17:28.10 | JeffM | yes I would very much like to know that |
| 17:29.50 | Pimpinella | sb for a test on gondolin.pimpi.org:5154 ? |
| 17:31.28 | Thumper_ | sb? |
| 17:31.52 | Pimpinella | nvm, something is wrong anyway |
| 17:32.06 | Pimpinella | sb = somebody |
| 17:32.23 | Thumper_ | sb == SuperBullets ! |
| 17:32.30 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 17:33.01 | Pimpinella | hm, probably we should try anyway |
| 17:33.39 | Thumper_ | I'mon |
| 17:40.55 | Thumper_ | JeffM: for r16662 (fix spin inversion bug since proto changed., 2008-03-02) I can backport it but I don't understand what it's doing or how to test it - do you remember this one? |
| 17:42.28 | JeffM | nope |
| 17:42.29 | Thumper_ | backporting it just removes printing of the warning |
| 17:43.08 | JeffM | the commit message for it wasn't clear enough? |
| 17:44.14 | Thumper_ | This is just removing the check and the entry in BUGS, I need to find out what the actual fix was for this and see if it is applied (or not) |
| 17:44.25 | JeffM | ok |
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| 18:12.05 | trepan | would revisiting the idea of sending the map as text-over-the-wire worth revisiting? i think it could be done very easily by providing lua calls to build materials and meshes, and maybe providing a default lua lpeg script to parse the current object\nparams...\nend style maps |
| 18:13.37 | JeffM | I'm not even sure we should let the map be saved by the client |
| 18:13.43 | trepan | i guess that consistent floating point operations would be the main issue (streflop to the rescue?) |
| 18:14.01 | trepan | on the upside to using text, all the pack/unpack junk goes away |
| 18:14.19 | JeffM | I'd like it to be sent only as the copressed cached version and then have the map provide a URL to download the text version if the map author wants it |
| 18:14.20 | trepan | JeffM: ya, i understand your feelings there |
| 18:14.39 | JeffM | some maps don't have text versions, such as those made by plugins |
| 18:14.41 | trepan | the worldinfo object can be used for the URL |
| 18:14.44 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:15.07 | JeffM | the ability to save a map on the client has only leed to complaints about map theft :) |
| 18:15.17 | JeffM | I haven't seen a positive use of it |
| 18:16.03 | trepan | i've used it a fair amount |
| 18:17.25 | blast007 | might be better to have a map download URL as part of the map info for those map authors that want to share their map |
| 18:17.52 | blast007 | and hey, maybe we could have a map site at some point ;) |
| 18:18.30 | blast007 | oh, and I guess you mentioned the URL, JeffM |
| 18:19.15 | trepan | JeffM: as to map plugins, i think that could be worked around easily |
| 18:20.09 | trepan | could make the 'save world' feature controlled by the server |
| 18:20.20 | trepan | _forbidSaveWorld :) |
| 18:23.30 | trepan | hm, i'm liking the simplicity -- think i'll give it a go |
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| 18:24.01 | trepan | (and it looks like streflop can be used by specific parts of a program, doesn't have to be used globally) |
| 18:25.10 | trepan | the other bonus is that all the grouping code can disappear, let lua do it |
| 18:27.00 | trepan | need addMesh{vertices={}, etc...}, addMaterial{name='',diffuse={}), and a couple of other calls, and it's done |
| 18:27.28 | Thumper_ | trepan: In r9925 and r9926 you added a check for an inversion bug in src/game/MeshTransform.cxx, which was removed by r16662 which I want to backport (assuming that's safe to do) Do you remember why we needed this check r9925,r9926 and why we can just drop it when the protocol changes? |
| 18:28.02 | trepan | remove the check/reporting, it's ancient |
| 18:28.24 | trepan | really should have bumped proto at the time, but we decided not to |
| 18:28.31 | Thumper_ | ok - I'm just trying to understand why it needed to wait for a proto break before removing hte check which just logs a message |
| 18:29.06 | trepan | only affected 2.0, iirc -- and 2.0 doesn't matter after a proto break |
| 18:29.14 | Thumper_ | ok thanks |
| 18:33.35 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r21842 10/trunk/bzflag/ (BUGS src/game/MeshTransform.cxx): |
| 18:33.35 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: Remove check for spin inversion bug |
| 18:33.35 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: This only affects 2.0.0 and can safely be removed since the protocol has changed. |
| 18:46.26 | trepan | a bzworld.PluginObject("type", "text") call will take care of map plugins |
| 18:47.09 | trepan | hm, maybe not, server map plugins can add objects to the map ... |
| 18:48.26 | trepan | (using the 'newData' parameter in 3.0, not possible in 2.4?) |
| 18:48.49 | trepan | crap, it is, bz_addWorldBox() and friends |
| 18:49.13 | trepan | </publi_musing> :) |
| 18:49.18 | trepan | *public |
| 18:50.43 | trepan | i'm still doing it, will just swap the "PluginObject(...)" code with whatever the server-side plugin wants to add |
| 18:51.11 | trepan | continues to muse, it's that kind of a Wednesday |
| 18:54.56 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * r21843 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (GameKeeper.cxx GameKeeper.h bzfs.cxx): |
| 18:54.57 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: backported r12027 Adding primitive to check shot |
| 18:54.57 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: and r12029 Double checking GM update. |
| 18:54.57 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: GM check kept mourning about expired shots, adding .01f fixed it for now |
| 18:57.16 | Pimpinella | JeffM: is this what was listed as "Guided Missile shot checks " ? |
| 18:58.06 | Pimpinella | it's not checking much actually |
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| 19:55.39 | JeffM | yeah I htink it was just to check for extra messages |
| 19:55.48 | JeffM | not that it made sure they go to the right place |
| 19:56.51 | JeffM | I dont' think we need to worry about saving maps as text for this release |
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