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| 12:29.05 | CruelC | 0hai |
| 12:30.05 | CruelC | How much does a pre-logged copy of Firefox cost? I mean, a copy of Firefox that is pre-logged into BZFlag forum. |
| 12:31.23 | CruelC | like, during registration, the user pays and gets a password-protected copy of Firefox that has their BZflag username/password remembered, as well as cookie "remembering". |
| 12:33.07 | CruelC | I can't log to BZflag forum, so I need a pre-logged copy |
| 12:34.18 | brad | you what? lol |
| 12:34.35 | brad | you know bzflag is free to play right?:) |
| 12:35.06 | CruelC | I mean, I cannot log to FORUM |
| 12:35.11 | brad | why, what does it say? |
| 12:35.25 | CruelC | so I'm asking how much a pre-logged BROWSER costs. |
| 12:35.46 | CruelC | Whatever I enter, it zullqulls me with the captcha question |
| 12:37.28 | blast007 | then you probably don't know what you're signing up for |
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| 12:37.28 | brad | hehe |
| 12:37.52 | CruelC | My bzflag name is Losermemo |
| 12:38.10 | blast007 | okay? |
| 12:38.17 | CruelC | look up, I discussed the cache files issue |
| 12:38.20 | blast007 | maybe if you explain exactly what the issue is |
| 12:39.14 | CruelC | Without telling that p/w is incorrect, it just keeps me in login screen and poops at me with the 2 "bot questions" - what's the name of the game and the vehicle |
| 12:39.42 | blast007 | yeah, I'd think if you were a player you would know that |
| 12:39.50 | CruelC | Wish BZflag forum allowed assigning an account to an external login measure. |
| 12:40.02 | blast007 | I wish you were a player and not wasting my time |
| 12:40.34 | CruelC | I am trying to log to BZflag forum, but can't. So I want a pre-logged copy of Firefox and asking for the price |
| 12:41.10 | blast007 | why do you want to log in? you obviously don't play the game if you can't answer those questions. |
| 12:41.32 | CruelC | I can answer the question, but the login screen just loops |
| 12:41.51 | blast007 | then you're probably not answering right |
| 12:42.08 | blast007 | there is no such thing as a "per logged" browser |
| 12:42.10 | blast007 | so stop asking |
| 12:42.26 | CruelC | What is the name of the game? BZFlag |
| 12:42.26 | CruelC | What is the kind of vehicle you drive in the game? Tank |
| 12:43.06 | blast007 | clear your cache and cookies |
| 12:43.06 | CruelC | I am answering right, but it keeps returning me to login and not letting me in. |
| 12:44.41 | blast007 | and make sure you're actually giving the right password |
| 12:45.44 | CruelC | Both of my usual passwords fail |
| 12:46.01 | KTL | numlock |
| 12:46.05 | KTL | shift |
| 12:46.25 | CruelC | numlock is on, and the password is digits-only |
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| 13:16.09 | KTL | maybe an idea for the shop |
| 13:16.13 | KTL | prologged on browsers |
| 13:16.17 | KTL | pre* |
| 13:23.20 | blast007 | kinda a stupid idea |
| 13:24.08 | blast007 | his only problem was that he forgot his password :P |
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| 13:49.39 | KTL | :) |
| 13:49.47 | KTL | (that was a joke) |
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| 16:35.08 | KTL | can the same callsign be associated with 2 bzid's? |
| 16:35.11 | KTL | 52063|turbo_GOD |
| 16:35.12 | KTL | 52065|turbo_GOD |
| 16:38.10 | ts | KTL: Huh? |
| 16:38.12 | ts | http://my.bzflag.org/bzidtools2.php?action=id&value=turbo_GOD |
| 16:40.03 | ts | ah, right string to lowercase⦠|
| 16:40.09 | KTL | ? |
| 16:40.12 | ts | but look at these two |
| 16:40.16 | ts | http://my.bzflag.org/bzidtools2.php?action=name&value=52065 |
| 16:40.20 | ts | http://my.bzflag.org/bzidtools2.php?action=name&value=52063 |
| 16:40.57 | KTL | on the forum only 52065 exists |
| 16:41.01 | ts | KTL: In theory there is only one bzid per user |
| 16:41.36 | KTL | anyway, got the same guy with 2 bzid's in my ranking db |
| 16:41.44 | KTL | and different data about him |
| 16:41.52 | KTL | suggesting both played recently |
| 16:43.14 | ts | Well, the links were shortcuts to the data on forum |
| 16:43.25 | ts | It's likely 52063 got deleted |
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| 17:07.43 | JeffM2501 | people can change names |
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| 18:45.55 | blast007 | KTL: is signed up again after I deleted his account |
| 18:47.30 | KTL | mmm oki |
| 18:51.58 | blast007 | s/is/they/ |
| 18:53.46 | KTL | http://images.planet-mofo.com/donf/ranking.png <- trying to get an idea of the "connectedness" of players now, to understand better which rankings are really dubious |
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| 19:49.55 | joevano | KTL: very interesting |
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| 19:59.22 | KTL | learns how to work better with logarithms to transform distributions |
| 20:01.09 | KTL | rank = log(20.0 * rank + 1.0) / log(20.0); <- to get the lower ranks to a higher level in domain [0,1] |
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| 21:31.48 | KTL | when should i use sqrt to get values between 0 and 1 up, and when a logarithm ... |
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| 22:07.24 | BulletCatcher | KTL: square root can be computed using logarithms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_computing_square_roots#Exponential_identity |
| 22:07.26 | BulletCatcher | The answer to your question really depends on how close to 1 you want most of the ranks to be. |
| 22:09.10 | KTL | usually i need everything spread out |
| 22:09.14 | KTL | over the domain |
| 22:10.43 | BulletCatcher | You want the lowest value to be near zero and the highest to be near one? |
| 22:10.43 | KTL | (genetic algo's like noticable differences) |
| 22:11.40 | KTL | i encounter ranges from 0 to infinity here, i currently play with logarithm, sqrt, scaling down by the max value |
| 22:11.46 | KTL | to get that in 0 to 1 |
| 22:11.55 | KTL | (large becomes near 1) |
| 22:11.59 | KTL | (0 stays 0) |
| 22:13.07 | KTL | dont worry about it, i will get it eventually |
| 22:13.09 | BulletCatcher | Dividing by the largest value will make it 1, and the others between 0 and 1, but I assume that is too simplistic for what you want. |
| 22:13.58 | KTL | for scaling down it is usefull, not for spreading them out a bit evenly |
| 22:14.53 | BulletCatcher | There is no single computation that will evenly spread all sets of values. |
| 22:15.00 | KTL | indeed |
| 22:15.01 | KTL | :) |
| 22:15.14 | KTL | it depends on where my input values are concentrated |
| 22:18.03 | KTL | 5 sqrt's in a row seem to do the trick :D |
| 22:19.32 | BulletCatcher | groups the values in a way that requres 6 |
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