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13:47.42KTLpfft my ranking mechanism based on a genetic algorithm -> very unstable stuff
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14:20.18JeffMany of the kiddies bucked up to save bzflag?
14:20.33blast007haven't seen anything here
14:21.57JeffMit's funny how surprised they act when we mention it's deadening
14:22.22Cobra_Fastsay what? bzflag is dying? :O
14:22.35JeffMit has the butt cancer
14:22.41Cobra_Fastoh noes!
14:23.45JeffMport it to the DS that'll save it
14:24.47Cobra_Fasti dont own a DS
14:25.24JeffMwhen has the hard fact of limited hardware ownership EVER affected what people posting about a port to a device matterd?
14:25.57Cobra_Fastnever
14:26.49Cobra_Fastmaybe we should rewrite BZFlag in Java. That'll make it run everywhere.
14:27.46blast007mono got ported to Android now too
14:27.57Cobra_Fasto rly? then lets do C#
14:29.07JeffMC# gets you the major benifits of java, less of the suck, and an installed runtime on your majority platform
14:29.40Cobra_Fasti know, im using it a lot
14:29.44JeffMit's also prety simple to make a mac .app that contains the mono runtime
14:29.51blast007JeffM: sometimes installed already ;)
14:30.26JeffMtargeting .net 2 would make it installed on any modern windows.
14:30.41JeffMblast007, unbutu has it premade right?
14:30.50blast007can't recall
14:31.04blast007I don't generally run GUIs with linux, so I don't get fancy stuff like that
14:31.38Cobra_Fasttime for wubi
14:32.15JeffMI do wonder what the CLI server needs for dependencies
14:32.36Cobra_FastSystem;
14:32.44blast007I had run mono on my last server, but it was debian, and I *think* I compiled mono from source
14:32.55JeffMit may need GL... I may have used the OpenTK vector classes
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15:09.33WarPigHmm...  I appear to be firewalled from bztank.net.  :(
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15:09.43WarPig...was it something I said?
15:10.20JeffMwho owns it?
15:10.44WarPigGood question
15:12.12WarPigtraceroute stops at  xe1-01.gwy01.mnuk01.hostnoc.eu
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15:38.12blast007doesn't Benfish run that?
15:38.19WarPigdefinately firewalled.  I can connect from another IP
15:38.39JeffMsend the owner an PM on bzbb
15:38.47JeffMall you can really do
15:39.00WarPigOK - is it Benfish?
15:39.43JeffMhard to say, we don't keep a list or anything
15:40.00WarPigA list would be helpful :P
15:40.16JeffMwe don't have any registration requirements for listing a server
15:40.26JeffMand servers are run indpendent of the project
15:41.19JeffMV3 was going to add a token a server owner had to get to list so we could at least know there bzbb name
15:41.57WarPigIs V3 still on track for release 'before the sun explodes'?
15:42.15JeffMbzflag is pretty much dead re: development
15:42.43WarPigYeah, that's a shame.  I wish I could do more.  I'm no C++ programmer though.
15:42.53JeffMit had a good 16 year run
15:42.57JeffMall things must end
15:44.11WarPigAny gsoc activity this year?
15:44.16JeffMno
15:44.32WarPigbummer
15:44.34JeffMwe have not participated in the last 2
15:44.41JeffMit would be silly to apply
15:44.54JeffMno SOC code has ever been released cus our development is dead
15:45.08JeffMand you can't base a projects development on student help :)
15:46.44brlcadwell you could, it just would be pretty messy :)
15:46.50JeffMindeed
15:47.08WarPigMore messy than it already is? :P
15:47.12JeffMyes
15:47.14brlcadyep
15:47.19brlcada lot more
15:47.30Manu:D
15:47.31JeffMand it would not teach the students anything valuable other then "nobody ever uses your code"
15:48.16brlcadi think it'd be more like them learning the "food fight" scene from animal house is how people actually eat :)
15:48.28JeffMyeah
15:48.32WarPigXD
15:48.41brlcadflings a pizza towards JeffM
15:48.54Manuhi brlcad JeffM
15:48.57JeffM"oh look.. logging"
15:49.00Manuhi WarPig
15:49.07WarPighi Manu :)
15:49.33Manuhow's your cooking brlcad? ;)
15:49.44brlcadManu: *fantastic*
15:50.31WarPig<-- spent 1982 to 1992 cooking in a French Creole restaurant.
15:50.56WarPigAieeeee!  Gumbo!
15:51.04Manuhas to cook every day...
15:51.53JeffMhow's the server move coming :)
15:52.12Manuit's taking long I guess ;)
15:52.21JeffM3 years now?
15:52.36Manuor longer.. :/
15:54.18Manubrlcad: is the european server still alive?
15:56.51brlcadManu: the german one was shut down over a year ago since it wasn't being used
15:57.00brlcadthe new server is coming along great
15:57.12JeffMcool
15:57.13brlcadthere's a lot to migrate, will take time
15:57.13Manuthat's good
15:57.30brlcadthe specs on the motd are out-of-date
15:57.37brlcadit's quite a bit faster, bigger, better now
15:57.58JeffMstill single core?
15:58.04brlcaddon't have the specs off the top of my head handy, but no
15:58.14brlcadit's multi
15:58.24JeffMtons more ram right?
15:58.28brlcadyep
15:58.32JeffMcus that essy thing is a pig
15:58.34brlcadand disk
15:58.42Manuone core only for SC ;)
15:58.59JeffMor just shunt her off to a VPS, be simpler to manage
15:59.01brlcadthe websites are going to be the first to migrate
15:59.27brlcadi'll post updates when it's under way since tim will have to update dns
15:59.47brlcadfor bzflag.org and m.b.o
15:59.52JeffMI think we are on a dual CPU 3.2 gig zeon now
15:59.57brlcadnods
16:00.14JeffMhow much traffic do you do a month?
16:00.38brlcaddon't recall exactly
16:01.14JeffMwe do squat
16:01.40JeffMeven when one of the drupal sites was getting spammed to the point where the machine died, we only did 70gigs that month
16:01.52brlcadyeah, that's nothing
16:02.01brlcadbz's way way more than that sustained
16:02.45JeffMwonder how much is forum spam :)
16:04.48brlcadlast I checked, it was split between bzfls traffic and web traffic for all sites, so probably less than 2% would be my guess
16:05.22brlcada lot of traffic from the seach engines
16:06.09brlcadfairly high index rating, so it gets requeried frequenty by lots of engines
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18:04.40Cobra_Fastubuntu ships with an old mono release which doesnt support .NET 4
18:05.19blast007wouldn't need support for 4
18:14.15JeffMtotaly should do a game in WPF
18:23.57trepanWPF, the new MFC?
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