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| 00:42.57 | Bountty_Hunter | Hey! Would anyone like to explain to me how meshes work? The wiki dosen't really explain it.... |
| 00:43.44 | blast007 | no |
| 00:43.46 | blast007 | nobody can |
| 00:44.00 | Bountty_Hunter | lol |
| 00:44.09 | Bountty_Hunter | Well... I mean how can I create them? |
| 00:44.21 | JeffM | it's a mesh |
| 00:44.26 | Bountty_Hunter | obviously |
| 00:44.28 | JeffM | usualy you use an editor |
| 00:44.33 | JeffM | like blender or wings |
| 00:44.41 | Bountty_Hunter | well, im using my hand... |
| 00:44.42 | JeffM | it's a list of polygons |
| 00:45.03 | JeffM | you define a list of vertexes, normals, and texture coordinates |
| 00:45.09 | JeffM | then define polygons that use them |
| 00:45.21 | Bountty_Hunter | i understand that... the confusing part is creating the verticies.. |
| 00:45.29 | JeffM | they are the points on the polygons |
| 00:45.37 | JeffM | a triangle has 3 points |
| 00:45.41 | JeffM | each one is a vertex |
| 00:46.00 | JeffM | each vertex has 3 bits of data, it's position point, it's normal, and it's UV coordinate |
| 00:46.11 | JeffM | those are indexes into the appropriate list |
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| 00:46.36 | Bountty_Hunter | whats the normal and UV coordinate? |
| 00:46.51 | JeffM | the normal is a vector that points away from the surface at the vertex point |
| 00:46.59 | JeffM | the UV is where on the texture the point would map to |
| 00:47.04 | JeffM | it's a 2d value |
| 00:47.08 | JeffM | from 0 to 1 |
| 00:47.19 | JeffM | or more if you do repeats |
| 00:48.33 | Bountty_Hunter | and defining the verticies you can also define the size as well.. like 1 verticex of a pyramid that is 10 big would be like: 10 10 0 |
| 00:48.37 | Bountty_Hunter | or...what? |
| 00:48.50 | JeffM | the vertex point is a 3d coordiante |
| 00:48.54 | JeffM | in world space |
| 00:49.14 | JeffM | points that are further apart will be larger |
| 00:49.37 | JeffM | but unless it's in a group it won't have an "origin" point like a box does |
| 00:49.55 | JeffM | really the mesh is not intended to be done by hand |
| 00:49.56 | Bountty_Hunter | so... if i had one vertex at 10 10 0.. what would that create... just a random point or what/ |
| 00:50.04 | JeffM | there is a tool to convert files from other editors into mesh obhjects |
| 00:50.10 | JeffM | no it would not be random |
| 00:50.15 | Bountty_Hunter | im brave..i wanna do it by hand |
| 00:50.17 | JeffM | it would be a X 10, Y 10, Z 0 |
| 00:50.25 | Bountty_Hunter | oh.. |
| 00:50.30 | JeffM | it's world coordinates |
| 00:51.00 | Bountty_Hunter | so...when defining the verticies im really giving positions of X Y Z? |
| 00:51.04 | JeffM | yes |
| 00:51.11 | JeffM | that would be why there are 3 values :) |
| 00:51.23 | JeffM | positions are coordinates |
| 00:51.25 | Bountty_Hunter | okay! why didnt you just say tht! |
| 00:51.27 | JeffM | normals are unit vectors |
| 00:51.32 | Bountty_Hunter | i didnt need the normal and UV crap |
| 00:51.33 | JeffM | I belive the docs say that |
| 00:51.37 | Bountty_Hunter | :P |
| 00:51.47 | JeffM | you do if you want it to be correctly lighted |
| 00:51.49 | JeffM | and textured |
| 00:51.59 | Bountty_Hunter | ehh..dont care about that for now :P |
| 00:52.03 | JeffM | you should prehaps learn the basics of 3d modeling first |
| 00:52.14 | JeffM | meshes are a rather advanced subject |
| 00:52.25 | Bountty_Hunter | no. i like hand editing...its fun and challenging ;) |
| 00:52.45 | JeffM | I don't care how you edit it, you still need to know the CONCEPTS of 3d modeling |
| 00:52.53 | Bountty_Hunter | yea,yea... |
| 00:52.54 | JeffM | they are independent of the tools |
| 00:53.02 | JeffM | weeps for the future |
| 00:53.12 | Bountty_Hunter | okay... im gonna go try this out... you stay online in case i did something wrong! |
| 00:53.20 | JeffM | nope |
| 00:53.31 | Bountty_Hunter | I demand you to. THAT IS AN ORDER, SOLDIER! |
| 00:53.34 | JeffM | you will do something wrong that is for sure |
| 00:53.37 | JeffM | don't go there |
| 00:53.39 | Bountty_Hunter | lol! |
| 00:53.39 | JeffM | seriously |
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| 00:53.44 | JeffM | thanks |
| 00:53.46 | Bountty_Hunter | thanks for the confidence in me |
| 00:53.54 | JeffM | you have shown you don't care about learning |
| 00:54.06 | Bountty_Hunter | 0-0 |
| 00:54.07 | JeffM | so why would I bleive you can magicaly make something you don't grasp work? |
| 00:54.18 | Bountty_Hunter | im confused now |
| 00:54.21 | JeffM | we know |
| 00:54.26 | Bountty_Hunter | WE>? |
| 00:54.28 | JeffM | it's very obvious |
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| 00:54.48 | JeffM | oh to be 10 again |
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| 00:54.59 | JeffM | did you even read the wiki page on meshes? |
| 00:55.02 | Bountty_Hunter | Wrong button |
| 00:55.09 | Bountty_Hunter | yes..but they dont explain it! |
| 00:55.22 | Bountty_Hunter | they just show what to input..not how it works |
| 00:55.23 | blast007 | Bountty_Hunter: no, no, it was the right series of buttons that I hit. |
| 00:55.24 | JeffM | it does, it just uses concepts from 3d modeling |
| 00:55.30 | Bountty_Hunter | LOL! |
| 00:55.45 | JeffM | it assumes you have a basic understanding of 3d geometry |
| 00:55.54 | JeffM | and no it's not LOL |
| 00:55.59 | Bountty_Hunter | im in geometry class now! :) |
| 00:56.15 | JeffM | yeah 2d geometry in Jr high |
| 00:56.20 | Bountty_Hunter | Im having fun with laughter...is that such a bad thing for you? |
| 00:56.27 | JeffM | it's a bit anoying |
| 00:56.48 | Bountty_Hunter | well then you obviously have no fun in life |
| 00:57.02 | JeffM | oh I have lots of fun, just not at the expense of others :) |
| 00:57.04 | Bountty_Hunter | cheer up and allow someone to make you laugh! |
| 00:57.30 | blast007 | Bountty_Hunter: what have you said that would make us laugh? "LOL" ? |
| 00:57.47 | Bountty_Hunter | I wasnt saying i would make you laugh.. |
| 00:58.00 | Bountty_Hunter | i was saying cheer up and have fun! :D |
| 00:58.01 | JeffM | no you just demanded that I could not go home from work |
| 00:58.16 | Bountty_Hunter | i was kidding around with you! Again..cheer up! |
| 00:58.43 | Bountty_Hunter | we all know that i am clearly not at authority to give you demands... you should have just gone with the joke |
| 00:59.15 | JeffM | riiiiiiiigggghhhhttttttt.......... |
| 00:59.23 | Bountty_Hunter | see...now your gettin it! :) |
| 00:59.29 | JeffM | oh I've had it for a while |
| 00:59.37 | JeffM | since before you started talkin |
| 00:59.55 | JeffM | typical 14 year old, variant 3 |
| 01:00.01 | Bountty_Hunter | I am 15, thank you~ |
| 01:00.04 | Bountty_Hunter | *! |
| 01:00.06 | JeffM | oh wow |
| 01:00.13 | JeffM | yeah a year changes EVERYTHING ;) |
| 01:00.19 | Bountty_Hunter | oh it does |
| 01:00.24 | JeffM | no.. no it dosn't |
| 01:00.26 | Bountty_Hunter | in a year u can start driving |
| 01:00.32 | blast007 | that's the scary part |
| 01:00.33 | Bountty_Hunter | thats a big change |
| 01:00.40 | Bountty_Hunter | ikr! |
| 01:00.41 | JeffM | dosn't always mean you should |
| 01:00.41 | Bountty_Hunter | :) |
| 01:00.46 | JeffM | irk is not a word |
| 01:00.59 | Bountty_Hunter | i know right... stop getting so old!! |
| 01:01.00 | Bountty_Hunter | ;P |
| 01:01.01 | JeffM | but really if you want to understand meshes you should read up on some basic modeling concepts |
| 01:01.11 | Bountty_Hunter | i dont wish to model! |
| 01:01.19 | blast007 | that's what a mesh is |
| 01:01.20 | blast007 | a model |
| 01:01.25 | JeffM | yes you do, defning a mesh is defining a model |
| 01:01.30 | JeffM | you don't have to use a modeler |
| 01:01.30 | McSpider | irk, to irritate or annoy :P |
| 01:01.33 | blast007 | so if you intend to make a mesh, you need to know 3D modeling |
| 01:01.35 | Bountty_Hunter | i can do that by hand |
| 01:01.38 | JeffM | sure |
| 01:01.39 | Bountty_Hunter | McSpider..shhhhh |
| 01:01.40 | blast007 | it's still modeling |
| 01:01.45 | JeffM | that's just the method of editing |
| 01:01.48 | blast007 | it's not with a modeling program |
| 01:01.48 | JeffM | hand modeling |
| 01:01.58 | blast007 | I hear hand models make good money |
| 01:01.58 | JeffM | you still need to KNOW what a modeler does in your head |
| 01:02.33 | JeffM | when you use a mesh you tell BZ that you are going to define it all and to not use simple shapes like boxes or pyramids. |
| 01:02.51 | Bountty_Hunter | i am in computer graphics class btw |
| 01:02.52 | JeffM | so you need to know how to define the models it draws. |
| 01:02.57 | JeffM | that's good |
| 01:03.02 | blast007 | Bountty_Hunter: learning how to use MSPaint? |
| 01:03.07 | JeffM | then you should know what a vertex is |
| 01:03.15 | JeffM | and a normal |
| 01:03.23 | Bountty_Hunter | i do.. i just dont know how to input it in along with bzflag and all this stuff! |
| 01:03.27 | JeffM | they are standard concepts in 3d graphics |
| 01:03.44 | JeffM | the docs say how to input it, 3 index lists |
| 01:03.52 | JeffM | index lists are very common |
| 01:03.53 | Bountty_Hunter | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.12 | JeffM | XYZ NxNyNz UV |
| 01:04.24 | JeffM | a fully defined vertex has 8 values |
| 01:04.28 | Bountty_Hunter | What!? You just said a minute ago it was X Y Z |
| 01:04.34 | JeffM | for the POSITION |
| 01:04.41 | JeffM | the normal is another 3 |
| 01:04.42 | Bountty_Hunter | where is the position!? |
| 01:04.46 | JeffM | in space |
| 01:04.55 | Bountty_Hunter | is that the first # then? |
| 01:05.06 | JeffM | the first 3 are position |
| 01:05.09 | JeffM | the next 3 are the normal |
| 01:05.13 | blast007 | in space, nobody can hear you map coordinates |
| 01:05.13 | JeffM | the last 2 are the UV |
| 01:05.16 | Bountty_Hunter | vertex: position(XYZ) normal(XYZ) UV |
| 01:05.20 | JeffM | yes |
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| 01:05.44 | JeffM | honestly what may help you is to just get wingz and export a box as BZQ |
| 01:05.47 | JeffM | BZW |
| 01:05.49 | JeffM | then look it over |
| 01:05.57 | JeffM | and see how the coordinates all work out |
| 01:06.09 | JeffM | I've done that to learn how various formats work out |
| 01:06.23 | Bountty_Hunter | can you change the size with group? |
| 01:06.24 | JeffM | then you can go and add more polygons by hand as you get the hang of it |
| 01:06.29 | JeffM | yes |
| 01:06.36 | JeffM | meshes can be in groups just like anything else |
| 01:06.41 | JeffM | and accept the same transforms |
| 01:07.58 | Bountty_Hunter | there is only scale in group...not size |
| 01:08.14 | JeffM | scale changes the size |
| 01:08.20 | JeffM | 2.0 makes it twice as big |
| 01:08.42 | JeffM | objects in a group have there own absolute sizes already, you don't set them, you transform them |
| 01:09.09 | Bountty_Hunter | so..how does the normal change....?? |
| 01:09.17 | JeffM | normals don't get scaled |
| 01:09.21 | JeffM | only rotated |
| 01:09.29 | JeffM | normals always have a magnitude of 1 |
| 01:09.30 | Bountty_Hunter | yea..okay...but back to creating the mesh |
| 01:10.01 | JeffM | do you know what a vector is? |
| 01:10.39 | Bountty_Hunter | no.. |
| 01:10.59 | JeffM | you may want to read up on them |
| 01:11.51 | delusional | http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/wings/manual/1.6.1/wings3d_manual1.6.1.pdf |
| 01:11.52 | Bountty_Hunter | vertex: -10 -10 0 |
| 01:11.56 | Bountty_Hunter | what would that create? |
| 01:12.06 | delusional | a point |
| 01:12.23 | JeffM | do you know what a polygon is? |
| 01:12.25 | Bountty_Hunter | yes |
| 01:12.40 | JeffM | you know a polygon can't have less then 3 points then right? |
| 01:12.47 | Bountty_Hunter | yes |
| 01:12.50 | JeffM | so a single vertex dosn't create anything |
| 01:12.54 | JeffM | we don't draw points |
| 01:12.59 | blast007 | alone it would be *snirk* "pointless" |
| 01:13.01 | JeffM | you would need to define 3 points |
| 01:13.09 | JeffM | then a polygon that used those 3 points |
| 01:13.58 | Bountty_Hunter | but what if the normal was 0...? |
| 01:14.19 | JeffM | the normal must have a magnitude of 1 |
| 01:14.25 | JeffM | it is a vector |
| 01:14.30 | JeffM | not a position |
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| 01:14.39 | JeffM | this is why I asked you if you knew what a vector was |
| 01:14.41 | Bountty_Hunter | and as it gets bigger...? |
| 01:14.45 | JeffM | no |
| 01:14.51 | JeffM | a vector defines a direction |
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| 01:14.53 | JeffM | not a position |
| 01:15.00 | Bountty_Hunter | oh... |
| 01:15.13 | Bountty_Hunter | oh!!! EPHIANY(however you spell it) |
| 01:15.16 | JeffM | I can't teach you basic 3d geometry |
| 01:15.18 | delusional | Bountty_Hunter: get wings3dm do these parts of the manual... all of section 2... 3,1, 3.2... all of section 6 |
| 01:15.22 | JeffM | you should go learn it on your own. |
| 01:15.25 | Bountty_Hunter | Oh, oh!! im starting to get it! |
| 01:15.30 | JeffM | delusional, he wants to do it by hand |
| 01:15.34 | Bountty_Hunter | wait...let me try this now |
| 01:15.35 | JeffM | cus that makes it "Better" |
| 01:15.48 | delusional | i know, i already told him that would be difficult |
| 01:15.59 | JeffM | he's 15, you are automaticly wrong |
| 01:16.09 | Bountty_Hunter | :( :( ;( |
| 01:16.12 | JeffM | cus he can do ANYTHING |
| 01:16.21 | delusional | if you get to section 3.2 in that manual... that's 95 percent of what you need to know |
| 01:16.40 | Bountty_Hunter | okay... i finally understand normal... now what about this UV...? |
| 01:16.58 | JeffM | the point on the texture that the vert is mapped to |
| 01:16.59 | delusional | section 6.3 |
| 01:17.35 | JeffM | each axis goes from 0 to 1 |
| 01:17.42 | JeffM | across the image |
| 01:19.40 | Bountty_Hunter | so if i kept UV to 0 for the entire box... would it create an invisible mesh? |
| 01:19.45 | JeffM | np |
| 01:19.46 | JeffM | no |
| 01:19.50 | Bountty_Hunter | ? |
| 01:19.57 | JeffM | it woulduse the texel from the lower left corner of the image |
| 01:20.08 | JeffM | for each vert in the mesh |
| 01:20.13 | JeffM | whatever color that was |
| 01:25.35 | Bountty_Hunter | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.35 | Bountty_Hunter | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.43 | Bountty_Hunter | could that create a basic box? |
| 01:25.51 | JeffM | no |
| 01:25.56 | JeffM | that's only 3 verts |
| 01:26.02 | JeffM | that could make a single triangle |
| 01:26.26 | JeffM | a box has 8 verts, 6 normals, 4 UVs and 6 faces |
| 01:26.29 | Bountty_Hunter | okay... so could you please explain what the verts are....? |
| 01:26.44 | JeffM | they are the points on a polygon |
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| 01:26.49 | JeffM | in 3d space |
| 01:27.03 | Bountty_Hunter | you mean vertex then..? |
| 01:27.05 | JeffM | how many corners does a box have? |
| 01:27.10 | Bountty_Hunter | 8 |
| 01:27.13 | JeffM | yes, vert is a short word for vertex |
| 01:27.20 | JeffM | each coner is a vertex |
| 01:27.28 | JeffM | corner even |
| 01:27.29 | Bountty_Hunter | yea...so... how does that not have 8 verticies? |
| 01:27.38 | JeffM | it does have 8 verts |
| 01:27.45 | JeffM | read what I said, |
| 01:27.53 | JeffM | 8 verts, 6 faces |
| 01:28.04 | JeffM | each vert is shared by 3 of the faces |
| 01:28.16 | Bountty_Hunter | oh..well im ignoring the faces for now... but would the verticies be fine? |
| 01:28.29 | JeffM | you don't have enough of them |
| 01:28.37 | Bountty_Hunter | but how? |
| 01:28.39 | JeffM | bzflag dosn't draw verts, it draws faces |
| 01:29.26 | JeffM | these are the concepts you need to go learn |
| 01:29.37 | JeffM | I can't teach you 3d geometry |
| 01:30.47 | JeffM | there is a wikipedia article on polygon meshes you should probably read it at the least |
| 01:31.49 | JeffM | time to go home |
| 01:32.11 | Bountty_Hunter | *time to gossip about JeffM ;)* |
| 01:46.32 | delusional | you got some misconceptions |
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| 01:48.18 | JeffM | mmmmmm girl scout cookies :) |
| 01:50.56 | Bountty_Hunter | omg... i cant wait till i get mine!!! |
| 01:51.22 | JeffM | I doubt your god had anything to do with them |
| 01:51.54 | Bountty_Hunter | ? |
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| 01:52.22 | Bountty_Hunter | Smurfy!? |
| 01:52.45 | MurfandSurf | yo yo yo |
| 01:53.38 | Bountty_Hunter | Why that name? |
| 01:53.56 | MurfandSurf | grumpy_smurf is banned here |
| 01:54.03 | temporalD | heya Smurfy |
| 01:54.11 | MurfandSurf | yo temp! |
| 01:54.16 | JeffM | so why should this name be allowed then? |
| 01:54.37 | Bountty_Hunter | TEMPY!!!! |
| 01:54.42 | temporalD | he's saying the callsign was banned - not him |
| 01:54.48 | temporalD | or some such |
| 01:54.54 | JeffM | that makes no sense |
| 01:55.11 | temporalD | so you have a deeper understanding of geeky crap - show off |
| 01:55.32 | JeffM | IRC isn't tied to bzflag, if a hostmask was banned then it was for the person |
| 01:56.26 | MurfandSurf | BH -- how is the map coming? |
| 01:57.03 | Bountty_Hunter | ive been going through the tough creation of meshes...but im going for the hard style---by hand! :D |
| 01:57.17 | JeffM | and he's not willing to learn the math behind it |
| 01:57.30 | Bountty_Hunter | yes i am! your just not willing to dumb it up for me! |
| 01:57.38 | JeffM | not my job |
| 01:57.40 | temporalD | JeffM: always have a negative something to contribute, eh? |
| 01:57.43 | JeffM | I am not your high school teacher |
| 01:57.51 | Bountty_Hunter | he does... he is worse than you, tempy.. |
| 01:57.55 | Bountty_Hunter | :) |
| 01:57.56 | JeffM | only when people expect to be spoon feed temporalD |
| 01:58.25 | MurfandSurf | Your assistance is what will keep BZ alive |
| 01:58.30 | JeffM | and find it funny when doing so |
| 01:58.36 | JeffM | bzflag is dead |
| 01:58.44 | temporalD | so leave this channel |
| 01:58.53 | JeffM | I want to get the people on a new project |
| 01:59.04 | JeffM | the people are cool :) |
| 01:59.08 | JeffM | even you ;() |
| 01:59.20 | temporalD | oh I know that! |
| 02:00.26 | Bountty_Hunter | Bzflag is not dead... just the development and the new population has decreased |
| 02:00.32 | MurfandSurf | so what is the "new" project? |
| 02:01.09 | blast007 | MurfandSurf: Crysis 2 |
| 02:01.30 | Bountty_Hunter | Bzflag 3....? |
| 02:01.34 | blast007 | graphics are a bit better in Crysis 2 |
| 02:01.39 | blast007 | just a *bit* |
| 02:01.53 | JeffM | if no new software is made how will it go anywhere? |
| 02:02.00 | JeffM | sure people will play it for a long while |
| 02:02.08 | JeffM | but that dosn't mean the project is alive |
| 02:02.11 | JeffM | just the players |
| 02:02.20 | JeffM | people still play quake 1 |
| 02:02.42 | blast007 | maybe it will be completely dead when .bz runs out of swap space due to a specific pair of IRC clients |
| 02:02.53 | blast007 | start the countdown! |
| 02:02.54 | JeffM | so next week? |
| 02:03.01 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:03.05 | Bountty_Hunter | yea.. so bzflag isnt dead... just no one has decided to update bzflag |
| 02:03.21 | blast007 | Bountty_Hunter: you're welcome to help |
| 02:03.24 | JeffM | there are different stages of death |
| 02:03.39 | JeffM | the cheat aspect will drive the players away at some point with out changes. |
| 02:04.20 | JeffM | MurfandSurf: I'd like to see a project writen as a universal C# app that is run more like wow |
| 02:04.43 | Bountty_Hunter | Blast... i would absolutely love to help.... but i dont know how :( next year in high school i will be taking some classes though! |
| 02:04.56 | JeffM | you can learn outside of school |
| 02:05.01 | JeffM | lots of good tutorials online |
| 02:05.27 | Bountty_Hunter | but which are reliable and stored with information that i need and are aligned with bzflag? |
| 02:05.48 | JeffM | you learn to program in general before you learn to program bzflag |
| 02:05.50 | blast007 | you're not gonna go read a three page article and know "game development" |
| 02:06.00 | Bountty_Hunter | i realize that blast |
| 02:06.04 | JeffM | so none of them are aligned, but all of them are totaly useful :) |
| 02:06.15 | blast007 | I don't even consider myself a "game developer", nor a "C++ developer" |
| 02:06.23 | JeffM | you learn general programing, then game stuff |
| 02:06.27 | Bountty_Hunter | but i think im gonna need an actual teacher to help me along other than some useless admins..er..some vey friendly admins and/or a book |
| 02:06.29 | JeffM | lots of bzflag is not game specific |
| 02:06.47 | JeffM | there are IRC channels for learning C++ |
| 02:06.52 | Bountty_Hunter | what do you consider yourself then, blast? |
| 02:07.01 | JeffM | blast is awesome |
| 02:07.05 | blast007 | I'm bi-winning |
| 02:07.06 | Bountty_Hunter | indeed |
| 02:07.07 | JeffM | wishes he could hire him |
| 02:07.09 | blast007 | with tiger blood |
| 02:07.10 | JeffM | WINNING! |
| 02:07.22 | blast007 | YOUR FACE WILL MELT OFF |
| 02:07.24 | JeffM | duh! |
| 02:07.24 | blast007 | *ahem* |
| 02:07.39 | Bountty_Hunter | wait... do you(blast and jeff) know each other in person..? |
| 02:07.44 | blast007 | no |
| 02:07.50 | JeffM | sadly I have never met him |
| 02:07.56 | JeffM | but I'd hire him if I could |
| 02:08.54 | Bountty_Hunter | jeff must be like tempy, but a bit older.. ;P |
| 02:09.04 | JeffM | how old is your dad? |
| 02:09.21 | Bountty_Hunter | blast must be like smurfy... but a bit more powerful and less funny ;P |
| 02:09.31 | Bountty_Hunter | my dad is 53 |
| 02:09.40 | blast007 | that's ancient! |
| 02:09.44 | JeffM | I am not as old as your dad |
| 02:09.46 | Bountty_Hunter | ikr!!! |
| 02:10.05 | Bountty_Hunter | so..you are 52? :P |
| 02:10.15 | JeffM | not yet |
| 02:10.19 | Bountty_Hunter | lol |
| 02:10.27 | blast007 | and here we thought he couldn't do math |
| 02:11.02 | MurfandSurf | laterz all! |
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| 02:11.17 | Bountty_Hunter | cya |
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| 02:11.49 | JeffM | there we go |
| 02:12.00 | Bountty_Hunter | oh darn |
| 02:12.08 | Bountty_Hunter | you only left for a max of 5 sec |
| 02:12.15 | JeffM | pidgin is not a great IRC client |
| 02:13.16 | blast007 | irssi is, though - at least when you're not an ircop using an outdated version on bsd |
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| 02:14.32 | Bountty_Hunter | blast/jeff, do you ever PLAY bzflag...? |
| 02:14.41 | blast007 | yes |
| 02:14.47 | Bountty_Hunter | like once a month..? |
| 02:14.53 | blast007 | but only when I already killed all the zombies |
| 02:14.59 | blast007 | they're only so many of them, ya know |
| 02:15.00 | Bountty_Hunter | :D |
| 02:15.14 | Bountty_Hunter | im assuming you mean.. black ops? :D |
| 02:15.44 | blast007 | no |
| 02:15.47 | JeffM | l4d |
| 02:16.40 | Bountty_Hunter | COD?! MW?! you cant talk about killing zombies and not be talking about one of those games!!!!! |
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| 02:17.02 | Think_Diff | you have obviously never played L4D |
| 02:17.22 | Bountty_Hunter | apparently..... *googles* |
| 02:17.50 | JeffM | heh, you'll google that but not basic info on polygon meshes |
| 02:18.05 | Bountty_Hunter | oh..yea... okay... ive watched plenty of youtube videos about that game |
| 02:18.09 | Bountty_Hunter | thats acceptable :P |
| 02:18.38 | blast007 | I kill specials for breakfast (not to be confused with eating Special K) |
| 02:18.58 | Think_Diff | most importantly, blast007 follows the discipline of NASCAR |
| 02:21.05 | Bountty_Hunter | okay.. i have a big standarized test tomorrow..need to get some sleep! ;) See you all! |
| 02:21.29 | Bountty_Hunter | and thanks for the help!!!!! |
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| 03:32.21 | spldart | O_o |
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| 15:48.48 | mrapple | tell me when it does, and get on mc.oc.tc |
| 15:48.51 | mrapple | er |
| 15:49.04 | mrapple | wrong window ftw |
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