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| 02:26.23 | KTL | actually, with those kinda fine-grained controls drawinfo offers, what keeps us from copying any architectural designs from whatever (existing)(huge) building complex and convert it to bzw? |
| 02:27.49 | KTL | thought about finding a autocad dwg, use vba in autocad to convert it mmm ... (i dont have time for this no no i should not grmbl) |
| 02:37.46 | delusional | i purchased a large collection of 3d objects a few years ago... there are many famous buildings... not many seem conducive to bzflag... one that might be good is frank lloyd wright's fallingwater. |
| 02:42.57 | KTL | it has a bunch of straight lines yes ... |
| 02:43.17 | delusional | what format would you like? |
| 02:43.26 | delusional | bzw.. obj.. 3ds... |
| 02:43.52 | KTL | euh mmm ... does it have a clue about the inside of walls? |
| 02:44.12 | KTL | obj is the easiest i guess |
| 02:44.16 | blast007 | delusional: you'd want to check the licensing of the 3D objects |
| 02:44.28 | KTL | myes it goes this way as usual |
| 02:45.19 | blast007 | I'm betting what you purchased was a license for YOU to use them in your own projects, not to distribute them other people for use in their own projects ;) |
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| 02:47.27 | KTL | there must be some huge dwg's out there where license is not the issue |
| 02:47.51 | blast007 | likely |
| 02:49.02 | KTL | (does it have value? yes -> copyright! license!, no -> i dont care and wont mention it -> noone has it) |
| 02:49.48 | blast007 | the license is the important part |
| 02:49.59 | blast007 | bzflag is copyrighted, but it's released under an open license |
| 02:51.47 | trepan | KTL: they probably wouldn't work out all that well as bz maps |
| 02:53.45 | delusional | http://www.greatbuildings.com/models/Fallingwater_mod.html |
| 03:02.19 | KTL | ppl seem to be happy with the reworked mad city |
| 03:02.34 | KTL | many of them have a "wow" reflex |
| 03:03.40 | spldart | Wow! ;-p |
| 03:03.59 | delusional | i have no clue why the OO's won't go away |
| 03:04.43 | KTL | maybe because of a "good flags" option ? |
| 03:04.48 | KTL | wasnt there something like that? |
| 03:04.57 | KTL | besides explicitly specifying each type of flag |
| 03:05.30 | KTL | +f good or something ? |
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| 03:12.56 | delusional | -f OO foes not work |
| 03:13.58 | blast007 | -f only affects -s and +s |
| 03:14.35 | blast007 | if you specify a flag with +f (or use good or bad), then those flag types *will* exist (with a few exceptions, such as the Jumping flag not spawning on servers with jumping enabled) |
| 03:18.11 | KTL | +f OO{4} # Oscillation Overthruster |
| 03:18.11 | KTL | +f PZ{4} # Phantom Zone |
| 03:18.19 | KTL | are you sure you removed those lines from my config?? |
| 03:18.20 | KTL | :D |
| 03:18.50 | KTL | since there happen to be exactly 4 oo's and 4 pz's in that map |
| 03:20.13 | blast007 | delusional: that model you linked to can't be used in a map, either |
| 03:20.15 | delusional | im not quite that stupid |
| 03:20.30 | delusional | no +s |
| 03:20.58 | blast007 | "These models are provided free online only for uses which are both private and non-commercial. Any publication of Great Buildings 3D Models of any kind, including by network blah blah is prohibited blah blah" |
| 03:21.55 | KTL | wright didnt play bzflag in his time otherwise... |
| 03:42.58 | delusional | does cache work form a non-bzflag.org address? |
| 03:55.16 | blast007 | map cache? yes |
| 03:59.36 | KTL | and the bzfs that created the cache has to have the same version as ... the running bzfs ? clients? |
| 04:03.56 | KTL | mmm ... my bzfs seems to ignore the url |
| 04:09.27 | delusional | i dont know why cached maps should ignore the downloadaccess file. |
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| 04:11.49 | KTL | used bzc instead of bwc *dumb* |
| 04:12.55 | KTL | that did not help |
| 04:13.00 | KTL | bzfs version 2.0.16 |
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| 06:17.39 | BulletCatcher | Packman: The easiest way to get support for a second source file in a plugin is to add it to the *_la_SOURCES line in the plugin's Makefile.am . |
| 06:17.41 | BulletCatcher | Then run autogen.sh, configure, and make as usual. |
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| 13:53.32 | blast007 | delusional: why should it use the download access file? |
| 13:53.41 | blast007 | the data in the cache file is the same thing that bzfs itself sends |
| 13:53.54 | blast007 | KTL: the extension on the cache file shouldn't matter |
| 13:54.34 | blast007 | for instance, I just use .cache |
| 13:54.45 | blast007 | but I could just as easily not give an extension, or use .omg |
| 13:54.45 | KTL | my bzfs totally ignored the url |
| 13:54.52 | blast007 | bzfs, or bzflag? |
| 13:55.06 | KTL | bzfs |
| 13:55.12 | blast007 | define 'ignored' |
| 13:55.25 | KTL | well it generated a random world |
| 13:55.30 | KTL | and with debug on |
| 13:55.34 | KTL | it made not mention of the url |
| 13:55.39 | blast007 | you did it wrong then |
| 13:55.45 | blast007 | you didn't specify the -world |
| 13:55.54 | blast007 | you still have to give the -world even when you use -cache |
| 13:56.11 | KTL | aa |
| 13:56.18 | KTL | but how do you know at all |
| 13:56.23 | KTL | if the cache is being used? |
| 13:56.41 | blast007 | your web server logs, and the map loading indicator is a bit different for HTTP |
| 13:57.10 | blast007 | well, and it will be much faster ;) |
| 13:57.39 | KTL | mmmmmmm testing resumes |
| 14:00.27 | KTL | difficult to test when loading from localhost is allready that fast |
| 14:02.40 | blast007 | :) |
| 14:03.33 | KTL | aha |
| 14:03.45 | KTL | bzflag -d gave one additional line about libcurl! |
| 14:04.02 | KTL | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 42 : Callback aborted |
| 14:04.11 | KTL | which might indicate it failed after all mmmpf |
| 14:13.51 | blast007 | maybe, maybe not |
| 14:14.12 | blast007 | what does your web server log say? |
| 14:14.29 | KTL | is it supposed to contain more than the -dddddddd output? |
| 14:14.50 | blast007 | also, try the same thing on a public server with -cache, like the collaborator map |
| 14:15.15 | blast007 | what are you referring to? |
| 14:15.20 | KTL | i dont have a public server, delusional might try it later |
| 14:15.35 | blast007 | I mean, try to connect to a server that is already up.. |
| 14:15.42 | blast007 | and see if that same libcurl error shows up |
| 14:16.08 | blast007 | also note that libcurl is used for the MOTD and the server list and auth |
| 14:16.26 | blast007 | so are you sure it was even your map download that generated that? ;) |
| 14:16.49 | KTL | ? i just know connecting to a server with -cache gives the libcurl line for the client, and without the -cache there is no libcurl line |
| 14:16.59 | blast007 | k |
| 14:17.09 | blast007 | does your web server say it sent a file? |
| 14:17.41 | KTL | i dont own that webserver mmm ok i will try localhost ... (might take some time setting up a webserver :D ) |
| 14:18.14 | KTL | (i tried looking at the different amount of received bites with ifconfig, inconclusive) |
| 14:18.23 | KTL | (bYtes) |
| 14:25.56 | KTL | it worked. |
| 14:26.11 | KTL | at least, it tried |
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| 16:10.57 | KTL | http://chaosinmotion.com/blog/?p=622 <- hilarious, about writing something simple like factorial with a java-mentality |
| 16:17.07 | trepan | castles in the clouds, i like it |
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| 19:05.22 | TASAIRES | Hello all, Hola a Todos |
| 19:08.06 | kierra_away | bienvenido |
| 19:33.11 | KTL | is there something like _inertiaLinear in 2.0.16 ? |
| 19:34.01 | KTL | (i try to config the -a option without being able to restart the server) |
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| 20:18.56 | blast007 | KTL: the -a option is the only think in 2.0.x that does that stuff |
| 20:19.55 | KTL | ok |
| 20:20.15 | blast007 | thing* |
| 20:20.52 | blast007 | there's one that does friction as well, perhaps, but that's more like your tank is on ice then ;) |
| 20:21.00 | blast007 | s/perhaps/I think/ |
| 20:21.15 | KTL | -a is important for monkey-dancing-between spires |
| 20:21.47 | KTL | i want to jump against a spire and go immediately backwards at full-speed |
| 20:22.57 | blast007 | 2.0.x doesn't have acceleration limits by default |
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