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| 00:22.06 | I_Died_Once | KTL yeah, if you back up at an angle, turn as you jump.. time it right and you can land on the rooftops on Planet MoFo |
| 00:22.20 | I_Died_Once | it was designed that way |
| 00:25.57 | KTL | mmm that will be for later, thanks for the confirmation |
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| 11:38.18 | Jacko_H | Hi TimRiker |
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| 21:45.44 | dexter_ | hi |
| 21:48.08 | JefferyM | hello |
| 21:51.10 | dexter_ | why is lag in bz so much higher than it is when i ping from terminal |
| 21:51.28 | JefferyM | there can be many reasons, the update rate of the server, your frame rate |
| 21:51.31 | dexter_ | if i have 20ms from terminal, ill have anything from 20-120ms in game, its really inconsistent and i have frequent jitter spikes |
| 21:51.38 | dexter_ | FPS 400fp |
| 21:51.41 | dexter_ | s* |
| 21:51.42 | JefferyM | also our ping is UDP the console is ICMP |
| 21:51.52 | dexter_ | i mean i know the ping in game is always a bit higher |
| 21:52.04 | dexter_ | but i dont understand why im getting these jitter spikes, or why there is such lag inconsistency |
| 21:52.50 | JefferyM | they use different measuring systems |
| 21:52.59 | JefferyM | I personaly don't trust the bz jitter calc |
| 21:53.31 | JefferyM | the ping has to take into account the time on the client and server in code too |
| 21:53.34 | dexter_ | even when theres only a few ms (2-4) being shown in lagstats, the connection often seems really jumpy |
| 21:54.00 | dexter_ | still it jumps up to say 20ms jitter every now and then, no idea why |
| 21:54.40 | JefferyM | bz does not lag comp |
| 21:54.41 | JefferyM | at all |
| 21:55.17 | dexter_ | yes but since this is specifically happening to me, there must be something wrong |
| 21:55.28 | dexter_ | jitt spikes, lag inconsistency |
| 21:55.38 | dexter_ | sometimes 20, then 100, then back down to 60 |
| 21:55.49 | dexter_ | it's just really strange and I'm wondering what could be causing that |
| 21:56.37 | JefferyM | are you on wireless? |
| 21:58.03 | dexter_ | yes, but this didnt use to happen with my other laptop |
| 21:58.21 | JefferyM | there could be more interferance |
| 21:58.22 | dexter_ | only reason i havent been using a cable, is that this doesnt have an ethernet port and I have yet to purchase the adapter |
| 21:58.30 | JefferyM | can you connect to a wire to see if there is any change? |
| 21:58.36 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 21:58.40 | dexter_ | im buying one tomorrow |
| 21:58.43 | JefferyM | I've seen wireless come and go |
| 21:58.45 | JefferyM | that woudl be the test |
| 21:58.59 | JefferyM | could be that there are new people on your channel and more interferance now then before |
| 21:59.30 | dexter_ | so changing the wifi channel could work? |
| 21:59.46 | JefferyM | I have seen it help |
| 22:00.07 | JefferyM | many people tend to leave it on the default channel, so you get clusters of people fighting for radio frequencies |
| 22:00.15 | dexter_ | i mean i thought - because i read that stuff like fridges etc can weaken connection quality - that being right next to the router would help |
| 22:00.24 | JefferyM | it can yes |
| 22:00.32 | JefferyM | but it also depends on what else is going on in that freq range |
| 22:00.52 | JefferyM | if there is another router on the same channel, you will also be picking ( and discarding) messages from them |
| 22:01.00 | JefferyM | but it still limits what your radio can do |
| 22:01.48 | dexter_ | its just that |
| 22:01.56 | dexter_ | i even thought it was the router, so bought a new fritzbox |
| 22:02.51 | JefferyM | wireless is tricky |
| 22:02.56 | JefferyM | the cord will be the best test |
| 22:03.08 | dexter_ | yea |
| 22:03.10 | JefferyM | if it still happens with the cord, then it's ether the computer or your connection |
| 22:03.22 | dexter_ | well says 1 other wifi - right below my apartment - is also using channel 1 |
| 22:03.33 | dexter_ | and its "using" as much as I am |
| 22:04.01 | dexter_ | Mac Book Air (late 2010) btw, running 10.6.6 |
| 22:04.14 | dexter_ | i must admit that i havent had the best experiences with macs and bz |
| 22:05.18 | JefferyM | they are interesting systems |
| 22:06.32 | dexter_ | would be nice if the cable solves it, because i dont think ill be able to do much about computer/connection, however it aint that pratical having a cable running through the hallway.. |
| 22:06.58 | JefferyM | wireless was not made for performance :) |
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| 22:14.10 | dexter_ | true |
| 22:14.22 | dexter_ | JefferyM: i have the bad feeling that it simply is my computer |
| 22:17.30 | dexter_ | kind of a drag that i buy a computer in 2010 and a game from the 90s doesnt run on it :) |
| 22:17.44 | dexter_ | then again Apple never cared about performance, lol |
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| 22:55.06 | blast007 | dexter_: so you're on a machine that can get 400FPS, but it doesn't have a network jack...? |
| 22:55.48 | blast007 | oooh, mac book air |
| 22:57.41 | blast007 | USB ethernet adapters might have some performance issues as well - though my only experience with one was when I only had USB 1.1 |
| 22:57.47 | blast007 | might be fine with USB 2.0 |
| 22:59.51 | dexter_ | blast007: lol i know |
| 23:00.22 | dexter_ | well im planing on just borrowing one from the store or renting it to test |
| 23:00.38 | dexter_ | im gonna test if i have the same problems on old macbook / imac |
| 23:01.03 | dexter_ | and if the wifi channel - although fritzbox doesnt indicate major interference - is the problem |
| 23:07.37 | catay | I used to lose my wifi connection complety when I turned the microwave oven on |
| 23:07.51 | dexter_ | dont own one |
| 23:07.52 | dexter_ | :P |
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| 23:32.40 | dexter_ | night, will let you know if any progress has been made |