IRC log for #bzflag on 20110102

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00:43.57jroysdonAny idea where I can download bzrobots?  I see a reference here: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZRobots/ but no download page
00:44.17jroysdonTrying to set up a personal server for my kids to play on (well, they are playing now) but so they can team up against robots.  The -solo robots are rather stupid
00:44.17JeffM2501it's part of svn trunk
00:44.34JeffM2501it is not compatable with the current shipping version
00:44.39jroysdonah :/
00:44.46jroysdonthat might be why it is not part of the Fedora .src.rpm
00:44.51JeffM2501nope
00:45.08jroysdonany other option for this?
00:45.10JeffM2501it's also just a robot framework
00:45.12JeffM2501nope
00:45.18JeffM2501other then autopilot
00:45.36jroysdonwhich is just a single instance on autopilot, right?
00:45.52jroysdonany way to control the teams that the -solo robots start on?   I want to keep one team open for my kids
00:46.00JeffM2501not really
00:46.22JeffM2501you could write a plugin that put them on specific teams
00:51.08Constitutionor have your kids join first, then the bots should fill in the remaining spots
00:51.16trepancan you tell which players are robots from bzfsAPI ?
00:51.35JeffM2501I thought human was part of the player structure
00:51.49JeffM2501you can also parse it from the name
00:51.53JeffM2501since they end in umbers
00:51.55JeffM2501numbers
00:52.03trepanso do some player names
00:52.19trepanbut ya, at least that's a beginning
00:52.20JeffM2501for his needs he could make it work I'ms ure
01:09.01Constitutionanyone want to build trunk and play for a bit?
01:09.14Constitutionor try to do so? ;)
01:14.26delusionalim building
01:15.20Constitutionhmm
01:15.26Constitutionjosh@victoria:~/Documents/Development/bzflag/trunk$ time `make -j6 1>/dev/null`
01:15.26Constitutionreal3m22.461s
01:15.26Constitutionuser14m20.580s
01:15.26Constitutionsys1m1.520s
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01:18.56delusionalbuilt succesfully... heh, too bad it's 2.0.x...  not 2.99
01:20.02Constitutionat least you can impress everyone who doesn't know better by having a branch client version greater than everyone else's :P
01:21.46delusional.........started over
01:40.57delusional17 minutes, 9 seconds
02:04.04blast007Constitution: I could, but I'd have to install Windows and Visual Studio
02:05.46trepanblast007: huh?
02:05.57blast007I do it in a VM
02:06.03blast007and my VM wouldn't boot anymore
02:06.20trepanskip the VM?
02:06.37blast007meh
02:07.10trepanso "install M$ & VS", or "forgo the magic box"
02:07.11delusionalwe didnt see any jitter effexcts
02:07.33trepanfixed a large part of the networking debacle
02:07.33blast007or I could just install linux in a VM :P
02:08.23delusionalif i have stencil shadow, and the flag is in an area of shadow from a box....  the shadow side of the flag turns completely black  
02:08.41delusionalstipple shadow didnt do that
02:09.03JeffM2501what card?
02:09.20trepandelusional: throw it on the pile  :)
02:09.46delusionalof bugs?
02:10.12delusionalgood work on the networking...  it seemed very smooth to me
02:10.50mrappleConstitution: sure
02:12.13delusionalseemed like maybe you had to lead shots a little too much
02:12.45JeffM2501if lag comp got turned back on then leading would change
02:13.03delusionalwhen cost jumped straight up...  the shot killed him while he was still in the air, and falling,
02:13.37mrapplewow autogen seems painfully slow
02:13.50blast007mrapple: install windows ;)
02:13.58mrapplepsh
02:14.01mrapplefunny blast
02:14.08JeffM2501no then you don't need it
02:14.39mrappleblast007: windows would be twice as hard. have to install microsoft visual whatever
02:14.47mrapplemac, just go ahead and build *horray*
02:14.51JeffM2501it's pretty easy to install
02:14.56JeffM2501you click
02:14.59blast007*double click*  *next*  *i agree* *install*
02:15.54mrappleare you buildling 2.99.x
02:16.22blast007who you asking?
02:16.39mrappleyou
02:16.46blast007I will be, eventually
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02:23.16trepanfwiw, i have a public 2.0.x TicTacToe server up and running
02:23.45trepandemo's how GameTime adjustments can be used to dynamically change object rendering
02:25.13mrappletrepan: yeah i saw. awesome. to bad there were no other players on :(
02:30.00mrappleConstitution: built! wanna play? :P
02:31.57BulletCatcherWell, that's annoying.  I got a segfault at connect when I built trunk without debug, but it seems to work normally when I use --enable-debug .
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02:36.43mrappleis the "hub: actually anything?
02:37.44JeffM2501it is the nexus for all human knowledge
02:37.49JeffM2501use it wisely
02:38.28mrappletrys to connect
02:38.38blast007the hub might not be up
02:38.57trepanthe hub is down
02:39.31JeffM2501the hub demands satisfaction
02:42.07mrappleis it up?
02:42.09mrapplenow?
02:42.21mrapplealso i kinda hate the turning in 3.0
02:42.43blast007lean into it
02:45.31JeffM2501stay on target
02:45.46mrapplegood thing 3.0 is dead
02:47.05mrapplei'd almost die if i had to play with that turning on a daily basis :P
02:47.31delusionalit's not bad, its just different
02:47.52delusionalwings ids different too
02:48.01mrapplei didnt notice a difference in wings
02:48.12blast007you will
02:48.19blast007jump speed is added, not set
02:48.24mrapplealso, do you think leagues like gu (if 3.0 launched) would set the turning back to normal?
02:48.41blast007so if you are falling fast, you have to use multile flaps to come to a stop and go back up
02:49.39mrappleoh thats annoying :P
02:49.47mrappleso tanks actually have a more realistic weight now? :P
02:49.51blast007so was air brakes
02:49.56delusionalyou can almost stop still, in midair
02:50.21delusionalcant even get close to that in 2.0
02:50.55JeffM2501it would be imposible in 2
02:51.06JeffM2501since the speed was set
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17:50.44red-derI search a good, free image host for adding pictures in a bzbb forum posting. Any suggestions?
17:51.14Cobra_Fastred-der: http://imageshack.us/
17:51.31red-derthnx
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18:48.54TASAIRESFeliz año nuevo, 2011!! Hola!! Hello!! Happy New Year 2011!!
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19:55.51PackmanIs bz_APIIntList *playerList a list of the playerIDs in use, and how do you update it?
19:56.36AnxuizPackman: Yes, it is a list of playerIDs and I believe the only way to update it is to create a new one each time.
19:56.50AnxuizOr at least that's how all the plugins I've seen do it.
20:01.35trepanyou don't have to create a new one, you just have to call bz_getPlayerIndexList() again
20:01.56trepanand bz_APIIntList is a list of 'int's, not necessarily playerIDs
20:03.33trepanfwiw, you shouldn't have to new bz_APIIntList either; you can use a stack (local) instantiation -- then you don't have to delete it manually
20:03.54trepans/new bz_APIIntList/"new bz_APIIntList"/  ;)
20:05.14trepanhm, i guess it would be bz_newIntList(), not "new bz_APIIntList"
20:08.20Packmans/new bz_APIIntList/"new bz_APIIntList"/
20:08.28Packmani have no idea what you mean ;)
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20:12.19kierrablast007: :)
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