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| 00:32.52 | delusional | trepan.. just to be sure I'm correct...... that materials-to-physics patch you linked on monday...... is anything there specific to PTF? It looks like everything pertaining to the team flag zone is in playing.cxx and worldInfo.cxx. If I apply the patch to my main bzfs, i don't want to change the behavior of existing maps. |
| 00:33.24 | delusional | what exactly is the teamflag zone tweak? |
| 00:33.48 | delusional | (team flags always go back to their own zone) |
| 00:34.11 | delusional | what if i have more than one zone? will it still go to the closest zone? |
| 00:34.56 | delusional | i guess what I'm asking is.... can I apply the patch, while leaving out the teamflag tweak? |
| 00:36.06 | delusional | or is the tweak designed to suppress a bug? and i should apply it either way. |
| 00:47.00 | trepan | delusional: i'm replacing that patch with a new .obj -> .bzw tool |
| 00:47.12 | delusional | ah |
| 00:47.44 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/obj2bzw.txt |
| 00:48.14 | trepan | you'll be able to generate a complete 2.0.x map from a wavefront .obj file |
| 00:48.17 | delusional | Ohhhhhh! I thought that was developed for BZ2.99 |
| 00:48.41 | trepan | 2.99 is dead :) |
| 00:48.50 | delusional | :( |
| 00:48.55 | mrapple | trepan: do you know why drawInfo doesn't cache? |
| 00:51.23 | trepan | delusional: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/obj-phydrv.jpg |
| 00:53.03 | trepan | mrapple: nope, haven't looked into it |
| 00:53.15 | trepan | i'm not even sure that that's true ... i'd have to test |
| 00:53.22 | mrapple | oh trust me, it is :P |
| 00:53.32 | mrapple | it doesn't cache when doing -cacheout |
| 00:53.36 | trepan | doesn't trust you |
| 00:53.40 | mrapple | or in the cache file the client saves |
| 00:53.47 | mrapple | blast007 can confirm then |
| 00:53.57 | delusional | me too |
| 00:53.59 | trepan | does trust blast007 |
| 00:54.04 | mrapple | trust delusional? |
| 00:54.14 | delusional | i dont trust myself |
| 00:54.22 | trepan | either way, it's probably not a big deal to fix the server blob that's sent |
| 00:54.39 | mrapple | i'd greatly appreciate you looking into it ^_^ |
| 00:54.56 | mrapple | considering the collaborator is a whopping 400KB which takes forever w/out a cache |
| 00:55.36 | trepan | drawInfo in 2.0 has several other problems, iirc |
| 00:55.46 | trepan | something about a vertex index crash |
| 00:55.52 | mrapple | how hard would it be to mod bzfs to serve a bzw from a url? |
| 00:56.06 | blast007 | can't |
| 00:56.17 | mrapple | bummer |
| 00:56.26 | blast007 | I mean, it can pull it from one, but there's no bzw parser in the client |
| 00:56.29 | blast007 | was forgetting about that |
| 00:57.10 | delusional | isnt htere a plugin for that? |
| 00:57.28 | blast007 | no |
| 00:57.46 | blast007 | you are probably thinking of fastmap in 2.99.x which servers the cache file from the built-in web server in the server |
| 00:57.58 | delusional | yeah thats it |
| 01:01.16 | delusional | nice, you are even putting teleporters in obj2bzw |
| 01:03.21 | trepan | it's all in there, except for arc/cone/tetra/sphere/meshbox/meshpyr |
| 01:03.44 | delusional | drawinfo strips too? |
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| 01:03.52 | trepan | drawinfo too |
| 01:03.53 | delusional | strip-ifier? |
| 01:04.02 | trepan | stripping can come later |
| 01:04.10 | delusional | i can live with that |
| 01:04.13 | delusional | I'll have to |
| 01:04.27 | trepan | i did add a virtual material property "drawMode", that can be set to points, lines, lineloop, etc... |
| 01:04.43 | delusional | i'm looking at it |
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| 01:43.45 | trepan | delusional: which modeller do you use? |
| 01:43.55 | delusional | wings3d |
| 01:44.18 | trepan | ah, going to want someone to test blender .obj/.mtl exports |
| 01:44.49 | delusional | i was looking at your picture.... it looks like you've modded wings3d |
| 01:44.57 | delusional | want me to find ablender user? |
| 01:45.00 | trepan | ya, i prefer wings3d to blender |
| 01:45.14 | trepan | (did some dev work on it) |
| 01:45.34 | delusional | i dont suppose you are going to release a wings3d patch |
| 01:45.40 | trepan | nope |
| 01:45.54 | trepan | with obj2bzw, it works for any modeller, that's the beauty :) |
| 01:46.28 | trepan | also plans to update the bzflag .obj/.mtl exports to make complete worlds |
| 01:46.38 | delusional | but you put the physics drivers right in the wings window. |
| 01:46.52 | trepan | ? |
| 01:47.04 | delusional | thats what it looks like |
| 01:47.08 | delusional | in the pic |
| 01:47.17 | trepan | everything goes in the "wings window", that's the whole point |
| 01:47.31 | trepan | options, world, dyncol, etc... |
| 01:47.35 | trepan | even comments :) |
| 01:48.02 | delusional | i won't understand til I see your final product |
| 01:49.24 | trepan | o <wp:f=GM,i=3,d2> (in the .obj creates a weapon, the object should have 2 faces in the shape of an arrow that point to where the weapon shoots, the arrow point being the "position") |
| 01:52.44 | trepan | heh |
| 01:53.11 | confusional | it's very easy for me to have misconceptions with the amount of real data I have. |
| 01:53.27 | confusional | GI/Go |
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| 02:13.42 | JeffM2501 | awwww an admin got to the special poster before I could flag it :/ |
| 02:17.59 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:18.10 | blast007 | I banned their univeristy ;) |
| 02:18.21 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 02:18.26 | blast007 | university* |
| 02:18.26 | trepan | zip should be modified to ignore __MACOSX/.../.DS_Store directories |
| 02:18.45 | blast007 | Vanderbilt |
| 02:18.48 | trepan | it would appear that not a single mac user has ever figured out how to avoid it ;) |
| 02:21.35 | JeffM2501 | that would involve typing and work.. and that's not the apple "way" |
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| 02:44.33 | mrapple | trepan: confirmed. it doesn't work |
| 02:44.39 | mrapple | and the cache files are different |
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| 03:24.50 | trepan | mrapple: taking out spazzy's drawInfo to make the resultant md5 stable |
| 03:25.09 | trepan | (delusion and scythio2 sections do not seem to cause the problem) |
| 03:25.57 | mrapple | spazzy has drawinfo? |
| 03:26.10 | confusional | inside the boxes are bubbles |
| 03:26.13 | mrapple | also, the cache file failed before spazzy had his section in... |
| 03:26.16 | mrapple | those arent drawinfo |
| 03:26.19 | mrapple | those are texturematrix |
| 03:26.26 | trepan | hm, ya, md5 has gone wonky agoin |
| 03:26.27 | trepan | *again |
| 03:26.33 | trepan | something is getting clobbered |
| 03:26.43 | trepan | upgrade to v2.99, probably fixes the problem ;) |
| 03:27.24 | mrapple | 06:48 PM <+trepan> 2.99 is dead :) |
| 03:27.29 | trepan | yup |
| 03:32.57 | CIA-98 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21344 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: * output the MD5 |
| 04:11.31 | CIA-98 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21345 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/obstacle/MeshDrawInfo.cxx: * backported one of my 2.99.x drawInfo fixes |
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| 04:12.54 | trepan | mrapple: that'll probably fix your problem -- and it's a server-side thing, so you're in luck |
| 04:13.34 | trepan | or, it might cause more crashes ... flip a coin ;) |
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| 12:42.48 | mrapple | ~trepan++ |
| 12:42.55 | mrapple | ill see if it works |
| 12:45.04 | mrapple | *compiles* |
| 12:50.27 | mrapple | trepan: http://pastebin.com/gDsH5hHk |
| 12:51.26 | mrapple | bzfs is failing to start at all |
| 12:51.37 | mrapple | er wait it is, bujt then what is causing the crash.... |
| 12:53.39 | mrapple | yeah, trepan, something's gone terribly wrong ^_^ |
| 13:03.15 | mrapple | trepan: nvm, i rechecked out and recompiled and it works now, testing cache file... |
| 13:04.06 | mrapple | trepan: nope, cache file doesn't work :( |
| 13:04.19 | mrapple | later |
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| 13:17.58 | trepan | mrapple: works for me; try clearing all of your cache files, etc.. |
| 13:18.00 | trepan | . |
| 13:33.09 | blast007 | trepan: with drawinfo in the map? |
| 13:34.53 | trepan | blast007: and with svn r21345 |
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| 13:50.54 | trepan | has the code to replace inside/outside points with parity checks, in case anyone decides they want to create a bz2.2 ;) |
| 13:57.53 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21347 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/World.cxx: * decreased the inside/outside point visualization line opacity |
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| 20:18.29 | dakota | Hello I am having a compiling problem with 2.99.60 |
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| 20:21.44 | trepan | dakota: what do you plan to do with 2.99.60 ? |
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| 20:50.52 | dakota_ | trepan: I plan to do testing...thats what I do... |
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| 21:08.39 | dakota | got templete errors trying to compile 2.99.60 |
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| 21:10.36 | dakota_ | Anyone? my irc client is droping me.... |
| 21:16.24 | dakota_ | I get this error : does not match any template declaration |
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| 21:20.49 | jh` | *known problem |
| 21:21.24 | jh` | i dont remember having this problem with my old |
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| 22:49.02 | dakota | Still having an issue with compiling 2.99.60... |
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