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| 22:03.40 | mrapple | Hi everyone - I need some help with a plugin |
| 22:04.06 | mrapple | Attempting to work on a plugin that spawns a team flag without that team having a base, player spot, etc |
| 22:04.28 | mrapple | Ive tried a few hackish things but nothing really seems to work at all |
| 22:04.50 | mrapple | Yes, this is doable with a bzfs mod, but I would like to try and do it without one |
| 22:05.06 | mrapple | It's going to be harder but worth it. thanks for any input |
| 22:05.11 | blast007 | not worth it |
| 22:05.27 | mrapple | thanks for the input |
| 22:05.33 | blast007 | patch bzfs |
| 22:06.01 | blast007 | since it's just as much work to apply a patch to bzfs as it is to download a plugin, add it to the build system, compile, and install it |
| 22:06.21 | blast007 | and then it's something that could go into the mainline code |
| 22:06.21 | mrapple | True enough I guess. Any input on the bzfs part? |
| 22:06.29 | mrapple | I Partially got it to work a few months ago |
| 22:06.35 | mrapple | but the flag jumped around randomly |
| 22:06.38 | blast007 | I'm not familar with the code |
| 22:06.43 | mrapple | and I have no clue where that code went. |
| 22:06.50 | blast007 | hasn't there already been people that have done it? |
| 22:06.54 | blast007 | or did they just fake a player? |
| 22:06.59 | mrapple | not sure |
| 22:07.09 | mrapple | i tried adding a "server side" ish player to the team. didn't spawn the flag. |
| 22:07.15 | mrapple | i havent seen a server mod though |
| 22:07.22 | blast007 | depends how the game does stuff I guess |
| 22:07.41 | blast007 | if it still stores a team flag even if the team cannot have players, I see that as a bug :) |
| 22:07.59 | mrapple | -forceTeamFlag blue etc would be a nice feature |
| 22:08.14 | blast007 | or just +f B* to add a single blue flag |
| 22:08.50 | mrapple | yes |
| 22:09.13 | blast007 | still a bit "iffy" though since it would behave differently for players that *can* have players |
| 22:10.08 | mrapple | ? |
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| 22:10.35 | blast007 | well, currently I think it probably allocates a team flag for every team and just doesn't spawn then |
| 22:10.43 | blast007 | and does so even if the team max is set to 0 |
| 22:11.04 | blast007 | (I haven't checked the code to confirm this, however) |
| 22:11.24 | mrapple | if you dont have a team, the flag doesnt show up in /flag show |
| 22:11.31 | blast007 | k |
| 22:11.39 | mrapple | you can have a team, no players on it, then /flag give anyone the team flag and it will appear |
| 22:12.04 | blast007 | right now, if you add extra team flags, they still don't show up until someone on that teams joins |
| 22:12.14 | mrapple | yes |
| 22:12.34 | blast007 | but if we made +f X* make a team flag appear for a team that doesn't exist, that work work different than for teams that do exist |
| 22:13.11 | mrapple | ok |
| 22:13.18 | blast007 | would work* |
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| 22:40.18 | BulletCatcher | mrapple: See CmdLineOptions.cxx and search for forbidden.insert . |
| 22:40.21 | BulletCatcher | If you remove the appropriate calls to that it should allow team flags in the absence of its team. |
| 22:40.34 | BulletCatcher | There may be more to it than that, but it is a start. |
| 22:40.44 | mrapple | Thanks, Ill try it when I get back later tonight |
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| 22:43.13 | BulletCatcher | I need to comment out part of that section for a map I will be hosting. |
| 22:43.14 | BulletCatcher | Maybe we should just add an -allowIrrationalFlags option to bypass all of those check. |
| 22:43.42 | mrapple | BulletCatcher: that would be a nice addition :D |
| 22:43.54 | mrapple | I need to leave now, Ill check back later. |
| 22:44.01 | BulletCatcher | cu |
| 22:44.13 | mrapple | thanks again, bye |
| 22:57.29 | trepan | BulletCatcher: iirc, you also have to tweak flag zapping for empty teams |
| 22:57.43 | trepan | had a patch for teamless flags a while ago, don't know where it went ;) |
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