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| 12:31.06 | randomparticle | is 'connect(...)' the only way to set the server-side address for a socket? |
| 12:31.17 | randomparticle | from the client, that is |
| 12:34.35 | randomparticle | 'sendto(...)' looks like another way of specifying the remote address. any more? |
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| 13:17.12 | Chestal | randomparticle: you are referring to a connectionless socket (UDP) I guess? |
| 13:17.44 | randomparticle | any variety really. i'm trying to monitor connections using dtrace |
| 13:18.04 | randomparticle | it turns out firefox is using sendto_nocancel, but that's quite a mysterious thing |
| 13:18.17 | Chestal | randomparticle: well, for connection-mode sockets you have to connect them before using |
| 13:18.21 | randomparticle | it's hard to find any documentation on it and i'm wondering if it's part of a private api set |
| 13:18.31 | Chestal | and the address passed to sendto/sendmsg is ignored on them (or gives an error) |
| 13:18.47 | randomparticle | i see |
| 13:18.48 | Chestal | all I know is connect, sendto and sendmsg |
| 13:19.51 | randomparticle | dtrace is quite nice for looking at connections, because you can get at the stack when the connection was made |
| 13:20.04 | randomparticle | so it's easier to see why the connection might have been made |
| 13:21.07 | Chestal | never used dtrace, is this on OSX? |
| 13:21.10 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 13:21.25 | randomparticle | it's on BSD, Solaris too, i think (definitely the latter) |
| 13:21.36 | randomparticle | FreeBSD |
| 13:22.24 | Chestal | yes, I remember that it was advertised as a cool new Solaris feature back then |
| 13:23.45 | randomparticle | it is pretty cool. you can analyze bzflag events too. e.g.: this monitors player updates: |
| 13:23.52 | randomparticle | BEGIN |
| 13:23.52 | randomparticle | { |
| 13:23.52 | randomparticle | c = 0; |
| 13:23.53 | randomparticle | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.53 | randomparticle | } |
| 13:23.53 | randomparticle | pid$target::*sendPlayerUpdate*:entry |
| 13:23.54 | randomparticle | { |
| 13:23.54 | randomparticle | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.54 | randomparticle | printf("update number %d at time %d\n", c, (timestamp - b) / 1000000000); |
| 13:23.55 | randomparticle | } |
| 13:24.39 | randomparticle | you can access all the arguments, anything really |
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| 13:36.05 | Guest985 | anyone here know maps? |
| 13:36.16 | Guest985 | how to do the notebook edit? |
| 13:36.22 | Guest985 | i would like some help |
| 13:37.56 | Guest985 | please |
| 13:38.43 | randomparticle | do you have a more specific question related to maps? |
| 13:39.00 | Guest985 | ok |
| 13:39.13 | Guest985 | so im just using the bzwiki to learn the MOST basic of mapmaking |
| 13:39.21 | randomparticle | ok |
| 13:39.24 | Guest985 | opened Gedit on linux and enter the statement |
| 13:39.28 | Guest985 | i made a box |
| 13:39.32 | Guest985 | like the wiki said |
| 13:39.43 | Guest985 | box |
| 13:39.46 | randomparticle | ok |
| 13:39.48 | Guest985 | position 0 0 0 |
| 13:39.54 | Guest985 | size 10 10 10 |
| 13:40.27 | Guest985 | how do i make a box on the opposite side? |
| 13:40.50 | randomparticle | on the opposite side of the map? |
| 13:40.54 | Guest985 | yes |
| 13:40.57 | Guest985 | to the first box |
| 13:41.07 | randomparticle | you need to change the position coordinates |
| 13:41.15 | Guest985 | to what? |
| 13:41.31 | randomparticle | whatever you like. first two are x and y coordinates |
| 13:41.51 | randomparticle | the box you've described will be drawn in the center of the map i think |
| 13:41.57 | Guest985 | ok |
| 13:42.24 | Guest985 | i would find this much easier if i had a grid with the co-ordinates |
| 13:42.58 | randomparticle | might be easier to sketch it out first, make a note of the coords and then edit the file |
| 13:43.07 | Guest985 | ok |
| 13:43.22 | Guest985 | thanks |
| 13:43.26 | Guest985 | good help |
| 13:46.59 | kierra | blast007: september 27th |
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| 21:22.49 | joevano | Howdy DTR |
| 21:23.23 | Erroneous | heya |
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| 22:53.24 | Packman | the map-making wiki says things like group shift is repeatable. What does repeatable mean? |
| 23:00.41 | brad | you can do it mor9e than onc;e |
| 23:06.02 | JefferyM | you can shift, rotate, then shift again |
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| 23:16.56 | Packman | so order matters? |
| 23:17.12 | JefferyM | yes, it builds up a transofrmation matric |
| 23:28.15 | Packman | spin doesn't work on 2nd order nested group? |