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| 14:04.33 | WarPig | blast007: PING! |
| 14:11.07 | WarPig | Just saw a player enter "/grab ST" on one of the maps I admin. He fudged it though, so it went out on the public chat channel. I noticed also he had angular velocity in excess of map limits and other players, even without the QT flag. I am not familiar with how cheat clients work. Is there a cheat that uses '/grab {flag}' for a player to grab the flags he wants? |
| 14:34.54 | joevano | WarPig: sure that would be easy enough to do |
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| 15:00.46 | WarPig | joevano: I realize it would be easy to do. My question is, (in light of the probability that most people who cheat will use readily available code) is there already a known cheat that functions that way? |
| 15:07.29 | WarPig | ping bzaddict.net admins |
| 15:22.03 | joevano | WarPig: good question as we generally don't have the cheat clients, the implimentation of one with a command like that would be highly probable since grabbing a flag is a known cheat |
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| 16:17.06 | joevano | WarPig: the answer is a definative YES... we caught him at it |
| 16:20.20 | joevano | hmmm... does the 2.0 api expose flag positions? a plugin that detected flags being given would take that away from cheaters |
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| 17:10.56 | BulletCatcher | bz_eFlagGrabbedEvent is called when a player picks up a flag, but not when given a flag via "/flag give" or bz_givePlayerFlag(). |
| 17:12.33 | BulletCatcher | That seems like a loophole that we would want to fix in 3.0. |
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| 20:56.03 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 20:56.13 | temporalD | ~pwnd |
| 20:56.16 | brad | ^ |
| 20:57.46 | WarPig | ~bzflist |
| 20:57.54 | WarPig | :P |
| 20:58.44 | temporalD | man's got the touch |
| 20:59.42 | JefferyM | or the internet just decided to burp out the rest of your packets |
| 20:59.54 | WarPig | ibot fears me |
| 21:18.40 | trepan | BulletCatcher: bz_eFlagGrabbedEvent is used in bzfsMessages.cxx:sendGrabFlagMessage() |
| 21:19.08 | trepan | i think that that covers the '/flag give' case |
| 21:20.17 | trepan | and bz_givePlayerFlag(), at least partially |
| 21:21.25 | trepan | it looks like bzfs' state can be jacked when using bz_givePlayerFlag() and sendGrabFlagMessage() returns false (based on the results from bz_eAllowFlagGrabEvent) |
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| 23:15.51 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21292 10/trunk/db/index.php: Select the server for the highest strength index and the lowest strength index. |
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