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| 18:07.00 | shane2peru | ok, I'm running a server on my local network, what is the command to specify only 10 good flags? |
| 18:07.25 | shane2peru | +s 10 +f good {10} ?? is that correct?? |
| 18:07.58 | Yassen | +f good {10} will put 10 of each good flag on your map |
| 18:08.17 | shane2peru | Also, when I use that with the indoor-ctf map, it starts me out outside of the 'indoor' and we can't get in |
| 18:08.29 | shane2peru | Yassen, ahh, ok, I didn't realize that, thanks |
| 18:08.46 | shane2peru | so it should be more like +f good {2} |
| 18:09.12 | Yassen | yep, unless you want hundreds of flags |
| 18:09.52 | shane2peru | Yassen, can I do something like +s 10 -s 0 would that eliminate bad flags? |
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| 18:16.35 | WarPig | I feel a disturbance in the force. |
| 18:17.07 | WarPig | ...oh, wait, that was the tacos I had for lunch. |
| 18:21.41 | mrapple | ~bzflist |
| 18:21.47 | shane2peru | ok, I have the indoor-ctf.bzw map, I disabled ctf in the file, love the map but want to limit the players to in the room, anyone know how to do that? |
| 18:22.16 | shane2peru | I mean so they only spawn in the room, not outside the room. |
| 18:22.36 | mrapple | shane2peru: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Zone |
| 18:22.37 | shane2peru | Yassen, thanks for the help, I got my flags straightened out. |
| 18:24.05 | shane2peru | mrapple, hmm, that link is not working |
| 18:25.08 | Yassen | shane2peru: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=cache:my.bzflag.org/w/Zone |
| 18:25.30 | mrapple | yeah somethings going on with the list server *cough* blast007 |
| 18:25.46 | mrapple | if I could take a guess i'd say its SportChick's irssi client *cough* |
| 18:26.14 | blast007 | shane2peru: if you don't want bad flags, and you want random flags via -s and +s, use -f bad |
| 18:26.22 | blast007 | -f only affects random flag spawning |
| 18:26.41 | blast007 | mrapple: ? |
| 18:26.45 | shane2peru | blast007, got that, thanks! |
| 18:27.10 | shane2peru | Yassen, thanks for the link, reading through that now. |
| 18:27.55 | WarPig | der listserver ist kaputski |
| 18:28.47 | WarPig | clicken ze resetbutton? |
| 18:28.55 | shane2peru | ahh, it is colors that spawn outside, since it was a ctf map, ok, getting the gist of this thanks for the info guys |
| 18:29.13 | mrapple | WarPig: sundz ike un guud ida |
| 18:29.20 | WarPig | :P |
| 18:29.37 | mrapple | ;) |
| 18:29.46 | mrapple | blast007: everything is extremely slow |
| 18:29.53 | mrapple | like, turtle slow |
| 18:30.08 | WarPig | like squashed turtle in fastlane slow |
| 18:31.13 | mrapple | WarPig: not sqaushed, the turtle just took a rest break |
| 18:31.29 | shane2peru | ok, how do I specify random spawn within a position? |
| 18:31.50 | mrapple | shane2peru: just specify size |
| 18:32.23 | mrapple | and tanks will spawn in that 'zone' if theyre team number was listed in the 'team' object |
| 18:32.24 | shane2peru | mrapple, ahh, the size, will specify the range with which they spawn?? |
| 18:32.28 | mrapple | correct |
| 18:32.58 | shane2peru | ahh, ok, or alternatively, I could just include the team in that |
| 18:33.07 | shane2peru | ok, got it, thanks |
| 18:33.08 | mrapple | you need to specify a size |
| 18:33.15 | mrapple | and if you dont specify team they wont spawn in it |
| 18:33.31 | shane2peru | right, that is specified for two teams, so I can just include two other teams respectively there. |
| 18:34.00 | shane2peru | or create a whole other zone config for each team |
| 18:34.12 | mrapple | nope you can do for example team 1 3 |
| 18:34.16 | mrapple | or team 0 1 2 3 4 |
| 18:34.43 | shane2peru | right, that is what I was meaning, |
| 18:35.44 | mrapple | ok |
| 18:35.57 | blast007 | seems to be fine now |
| 18:37.07 | mrapple | ok |
| 18:37.10 | shane2peru | argh, ok, flags are now outside, :) there must be a specification for them |
| 18:38.24 | blast007 | mrapple: if size isn't specified, won't they just spawn exactly at the given position? |
| 18:38.37 | mrapple | blast007: hm im not sure. i think size is required |
| 18:38.44 | blast007 | I don't think it is |
| 18:38.48 | mrapple | testing time |
| 18:39.46 | mrapple | blast007: correct i guess. size isnt needed |
| 19:09.20 | shane2peru | ok, I'm having trouble with this three dimension numbers, size length width height??? anyone have a short example that I can understand? |
| 19:10.40 | blast007 | it's x y z |
| 19:11.08 | shane2peru | blast007, ok, what is y? height? |
| 19:11.15 | blast007 | z is height |
| 19:11.23 | shane2peru | oh, I meant z |
| 19:11.58 | blast007 | y+ probably corresponds to North in the game, but I'm not sure |
| 19:12.18 | shane2peru | ok, that is ok, I'm still trying to figure out this zone stuff |
| 19:12.36 | blast007 | if you run this while joined to a game, you'll see the X Y Z coordinates of your tank in the top right corner of the screen: /localset showCoordinates 1 |
| 19:13.00 | shane2peru | ahh, that is a very handy tip!!! thanks a bundle! |
| 19:13.08 | blast007 | no problem :) |
| 19:13.38 | shane2peru | localset showCoordinates in the map file or as an option on commandline? |
| 19:14.31 | shane2peru | oh, I see while playing the map |
| 19:16.02 | blast007 | yeah, hit the chat key and type it, with the slash |
| 19:16.08 | blast007 | it's a client command |
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| 22:55.58 | crueldog | hey JCP, I have a question for you concerning BZNETWORK |
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| 23:15.58 | Murielle | what is an operator? I see in bzfsAPI : bz_setPlayerOperator |
| 23:16.10 | JefferyM | a user that has enetered the server password |
| 23:17.18 | Murielle | and cops? |
| 23:17.26 | JefferyM | what is a cop? |
| 23:17.38 | JefferyM | the game has no concept of that term |
| 23:17.42 | Murielle | ah |
| 23:17.52 | JefferyM | an "admin" is someone who has one of the ban permissions |
| 23:18.08 | JefferyM | and an operator has all permissions |
| 23:18.22 | Murielle | does an operator see the "advanced" scoreboard ? |
| 23:18.44 | JefferyM | you mean the extended observer info? |
| 23:19.02 | Murielle | no...the [1] in the scoreboard |
| 23:19.21 | a_meteorite | slot numbers? |
| 23:19.22 | JefferyM | if it's tied to a permission then sure, as I siad they have all permissions |
| 23:19.42 | JefferyM | but not everything shown in the client is tied to a permission |
| 23:20.16 | a_meteorite | yeah... simple mod and you can see slot numbers without having any permission. the client already knows it. |
| 23:21.12 | Murielle | i gave ban perm with bz_grantperm but the player is not seen as admin (with a @) |
| 23:21.30 | JefferyM | the @ is only given when they join |
| 23:22.05 | Murielle | the plugin that grant the perm has registered joinn events |
| 23:22.14 | JefferyM | that's too late |
| 23:22.22 | Murielle | ok |
| 23:22.25 | JefferyM | there is an event for giving out the symbol |
| 23:22.47 | Murielle | ah? |
| 23:23.48 | JefferyM | join is intended to notify only, not allow changes IIRC |
| 23:23.59 | JefferyM | it's when the join process is complete |
| 23:24.47 | JefferyM | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:24.58 | JefferyM | why don't you just put them in a group that has the perm? |
| 23:25.25 | Murielle | i am playing...i do not want to use global group |
| 23:25.45 | Murielle | i try to use "group" defined on a remote websiite |
| 23:26.02 | Murielle | and manage them thru a front-end on the website |
| 23:26.31 | Murielle | i think it is more flexible to handle a league, fo instance |
| 23:27.12 | JefferyM | then you will probably want to handle the event for the mark |
| 23:27.31 | Murielle | what is this event? i do not see it |
| 23:27.52 | JefferyM | I don't recall it off the top of my head, hidden admin calls it IIRC |
| 23:28.17 | Murielle | i will check jiden admin.thank you |
| 23:28.21 | Murielle | hiden* |
| 23:28.37 | JefferyM | I'm looking now, gimme a sec |
| 23:29.03 | JefferyM | bz_GetPlayerInfoEvent |
| 23:29.22 | JefferyM | it has admin, verified, and registered flags |
| 23:29.31 | JefferyM | those are what controll the @ + and - |
| 23:29.52 | Murielle | ok |
| 23:33.07 | Murielle | isnt this event called several time after the player has spawned? |
| 23:34.49 | JefferyM | shoudn't be |
| 23:35.05 | JefferyM | it should be the one that is called before the player info is sent out to all the other players |
| 23:35.58 | JefferyM | it would be useless to call it more then once per player |
| 23:36.20 | JefferyM | bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent is called a lot after spawn, everytime a player moves. |
| 23:37.23 | Murielle | ah yes...i was confusing ePlayerUpdateEvent and GetPlayerInfoEvent |
| 23:37.46 | JefferyM | events that have "Get" in them usualy want something from the plugin |
| 23:37.55 | JefferyM | most others are just notifications |
| 23:38.22 | Murielle | ok |
| 23:42.41 | Murielle | what is the difference between the status "verified" and "registred" for a player? |
| 23:42.57 | Murielle | ohi know the answer:p |
| 23:43.01 | JefferyM | registered means the name is registered on bzbb |
| 23:43.16 | JefferyM | not everyone who logs in with a registered name has the correct password for it ;) |
| 23:43.27 | Murielle | yes:) |
| 23:43.34 | JefferyM | it takes registered and verified to get the + |
| 23:43.43 | JefferyM | if registered is false you get no symbol |
| 23:43.53 | JefferyM | registered true and verified false is a - |
| 23:44.38 | Murielle | i asked too fast!!!grrrr the answer came in my mind after i pressed "enter" (grrrrr bis) |
| 23:45.30 | JefferyM | such is life |
| 23:45.55 | Murielle | grrrr |
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