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| 01:33.03 | AAA_awright | The Affero clause can't even apply unless you are copying/distributing the program do I don't see what good it does |
| 01:56.28 | blast007 | AAA_awright: "It has one added requirement: if you run the program on a server and let other users communicate with it there, your server must also allow them to download the source code corresponding to the program that it's running." |
| 01:58.05 | AAA_awright | But that's meaningless unless you are copying the program, it is a *copy*right after all |
| 01:58.20 | blast007 | um. what? |
| 01:58.27 | blast007 | copyright != license |
| 01:58.41 | AAA_awright | A license that grants permission to copy the program |
| 01:58.54 | AAA_awright | Or, you can not accept the license, and you don't get permission to copy the program |
| 01:59.04 | blast007 | it's not about copying |
| 01:59.18 | AAA_awright | Either way the Affero clause is non-operative |
| 01:59.22 | blast007 | the license dictates what you can DO with the item in question |
| 01:59.31 | blast007 | [citation needed] |
| 01:59.32 | AAA_awright | But the AGPL isn't an EULA |
| 02:01.39 | blast007 | AAA_awright: really, provide something to back up your claim |
| 02:01.54 | AAA_awright | You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program. Ancillary propagation of a covered work occurring solely as a consequence of using peer-to-peer transmission to receive a copy likewise does not require acceptance. However, nothing other than this License grants you permission to propagate or modify any covered work. |
| 02:02.22 | AAA_awright | It says so in the license itself |
| 02:02.34 | blast007 | so if they can't modify it, I don't see it as a problem ;) |
| 02:03.00 | blast007 | in order to modify it, they have to accept the license |
| 02:03.38 | AAA_awright | Which I call BS on http://www.eff.org/cases/huntsman-v-soderbergh |
| 02:04.01 | AAA_awright | You don't have to accept a license to modify a work |
| 02:04.58 | AAA_awright | blast007: I'm not trying to argue it with you, thanks for trying to offer some arguments to help me understand |
| 02:05.26 | AAA_awright | I mean, I get what their intention is, I just don't see why they think they can get away with it |
| 02:05.27 | blast007 | couldn't someone still legally go after someone using AGPL code and not releasing the modified source? |
| 02:05.44 | blast007 | seek legal action, I mean |
| 02:06.28 | AAA_awright | They could try, but I would like that to the movie studios going after someone who wants to censor their own movies for their personal enjoyment |
| 02:06.47 | AAA_awright | That's the closest court case I could find |
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