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| 17:02.10 | mrapple | does anyone have any ideas on how a plugin might be able to detect players cheating? |
| 17:02.22 | mrapple | im working on a plugin that for example bans people if they tk to much |
| 17:02.33 | mrapple | and i think a nice addition would be some small cheat detection |
| 17:02.36 | mrapple | all ideas are welcome :) |
| 17:11.30 | joevano | mr apple... not an easy task |
| 17:12.37 | temporalD | in this context what does "cheating" mean? maybe if you define the behavior you don't want to see you'll be able to get an idea or two |
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| 17:25.52 | AAA_awright | I wouldn't call team killing "cheating" |
| 17:26.06 | mrapple | teamkilling isnt filed under cheating |
| 17:26.20 | mrapple | i dont have anything under 'cheat detecting' |
| 17:30.12 | BulletCatcher | Most of the workable ideas for cheat detection are already in 2.0.16, but they typically result in a kick rather than a ban. |
| 17:30.50 | BulletCatcher | It shouldn't be too hard to write a plugin that will add a banlist entry following certain kicks. |
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| 18:17.32 | Bambino | mrapple: I have an idea |
| 18:18.55 | Bambino | dunno if it's possible but... |
| 18:19.19 | mrapple | go ahead |
| 18:19.38 | Bambino | if the server's jump velocity is equal to 0 or if jumping is disabled, and a player jumps, kick/ban |
| 18:19.53 | mrapple | oh yeah |
| 18:19.54 | mrapple | good one |
| 18:20.06 | mrapple | it wouldnt be if a player jumps |
| 18:20.07 | Bambino | not sure if height detection is disabled at such a low height |
| 18:20.11 | mrapple | just if their z height is high |
| 18:20.17 | Bambino | ya |
| 18:20.41 | Bambino | then again, low fps can cause higher than normal jumps |
| 18:24.35 | Bambino | mrapple: you could look at catay's plugin for ideas. http://www.catay.be/ |
| 18:24.42 | mrapple | ok |
| 18:24.42 | Bambino | look @ AntiCheat |
| 18:26.06 | mrapple | ok |
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| 21:06.08 | JefferyM | mrapple, how do you detect a jump? |
| 21:07.23 | blast007 | JefferyM: hehe, I already pointed out about 6 flaws in his idea ;) |
| 21:07.31 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:08.14 | blast007 | teleporters, bouncy flag, jumping flag, spawn on buildings, and the fact that cheat clients would just lie |
| 21:08.43 | JefferyM | burrow ;) |
| 21:08.51 | blast007 | airspawn plugin |
| 21:08.57 | JefferyM | your mom |
| 21:08.58 | JefferyM | ;) |
| 21:10.26 | JefferyM | anything that requires tracking of a player state will have issues sadly |
| 21:11.58 | blast007 | at least until you just forget about everyone with lag >80ms ;) |
| 21:12.31 | blast007 | or on dialup |
| 21:13.05 | blast007 | remembers spending a few minutes in F.E.A.R. trying to get through a door, cuz of dialup |
| 21:13.28 | blast007 | kept bouncing me back through the doorway |
| 21:15.58 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:15.58 | JefferyM | all depends on how you handle issues |
| 21:15.58 | JefferyM | I'd treat doorways as larger then they were |
| 21:16.05 | JefferyM | since the tactical advantage of skiming a door is minimal |
| 21:27.47 | blast007 | well, I wasn't even turning. I was just trying to straight forward. |
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