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| 02:18.25 | CIA-86 | BZFlag: 03runic * r21205 10/trunk/bzflag/src/clientbase/ (LocalPlayer.cxx Player.cxx): |
| 02:18.25 | CIA-86 | BZFlag: - improved _maxBumpHeight motion |
| 02:18.25 | CIA-86 | BZFlag: - fix for tank getting stuck on 1.0 Boxes for window's client |
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| 04:24.15 | sigonasr2 | I would like to know if a so-called "stuck" glitch to certain normal boxes of z height 0.1 has been taken care of in v3, because this has recently come up in the map "BZFlag Olympics - Tank Driving 101". I heard that this issue has been addressed before, so I was curious as to whether it has been taken care of. |
| 04:24.52 | sigonasr2 | It does not occur with clients of version 2.0.10 or earlier on windows builds only. Linux and mac compilations of 2.0.14+ as far as I'm concerned do not have this issue. |
| 04:25.27 | sigonasr2 | Meshboxes seem to work fine with 2.0.14+ windows clients however. It's just the normal ones that seem to have this problem. |
| 04:25.40 | JeffM2501 | build 3 and try it |
| 04:25.44 | JeffM2501 | that's the only way to be sure |
| 04:25.48 | sigonasr2 | Alright. |
| 04:27.23 | BulletCatcher | Are you saying that it does occur with Windows 2.0.12 and newer, but not with Windows 2.0.10 and older? |
| 04:32.11 | sigonasr2 | Correct. |
| 04:33.08 | JeffM2501 | does it happen on windows? |
| 04:33.17 | JeffM2501 | sorry linux |
| 04:33.23 | JeffM2501 | or any OS that is not windows? |
| 04:36.22 | sigonasr2 | None of the others that did not have a windows build with 2.0.12 or higher had the issue. |
| 04:41.05 | BulletCatcher | I parse that as "only Windows". |
| 04:41.30 | JeffM2501 | prolly |
| 04:41.46 | sigonasr2 | Only Windows ;) |
| 04:41.51 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 04:42.20 | JeffM2501 | probably floating point crap |
| 04:42.32 | sigonasr2 | That's what Thumper said. |
| 04:43.05 | BulletCatcher | Is the troublesome box near the center of the map or closer to the edge? |
| 04:43.30 | sigonasr2 | The location does not matter. I have run local tests with boxes everywhere of various sizes with similar z heights and it still happens. |
| 04:44.26 | sigonasr2 | Unless you mean that specific map, BZFlag Olympics |
| 04:44.35 | JeffM2501 | there have always been issues with box/mesh collisions in branch |
| 04:44.44 | JeffM2501 | IIRC everything is represented as a mesh in trunk |
| 04:44.57 | JeffM2501 | that may help make it more consistent |
| 04:45.19 | sigonasr2 | Sounds good. |
| 04:45.21 | BulletCatcher | If it happens both near the center and near the edge, then it disproves one hypothesis I have. |
| 04:46.06 | JeffM2501 | that the floating point preceision gets worse the larger the abs value of the position gets? |
| 04:46.14 | BulletCatcher | Yup. |
| 04:46.22 | JeffM2501 | I'm not sure floats work like that |
| 04:46.38 | JeffM2501 | z buffers work like that |
| 04:47.16 | BulletCatcher | It can when you are computing differences, but even on a large map 0.1 should not be lost in the imprecision of a float. |
| 04:49.50 | JeffM2501 | still simplest thing to do is try it all in v3 |
| 04:50.09 | BulletCatcher | Yes. As you said, it is the only way to be sure. |
| 04:50.15 | JeffM2501 | I'd find it hard to belive it's a build setting ether, as .12 and .16 use different compilers |
| 04:51.01 | BulletCatcher | What about .10 and .12 ? |
| 04:51.09 | JeffM2501 | same compiler |
| 04:51.19 | JeffM2501 | all VC7 |
| 04:51.27 | JeffM2501 | didn't change to vc9 till 16 |
| 04:53.20 | BulletCatcher | I see nothing in the 2.0.12 ChangeLog that is obviously relevant. |
| 04:54.51 | JeffM2501 | generaly collision related bugs are fixed in a release that breaks compatability so that everyone has the same behavor on the map |
| 04:54.56 | JeffM2501 | since so much is done on the client |
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| 06:06.17 | trepan | JeffM2501: it's been a half decade since anything like that has happened |
| 06:06.50 | trepan | << BZFlag 2.0.0 "Falcor's Despair" (2005-01-17) >> -- the irony thickens ;) |
| 06:07.16 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 06:08.04 | trepan | "release that breaks compatability" |
| 06:08.11 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 06:08.13 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 06:20.10 | trepan | ~2 years between 1.7e and 1.7g0, ~1 year between 1.7g0 and 1.10.0, ~1 year between 1.10.0 and 2.0.0 |
| 06:21.39 | JeffM2501 | trunk was started in late 2005, how sad is that |
| 06:46.51 | blast007 | trepan: 1.7e was compatible with 1.7g afaik |
| 06:59.56 | trepan | blast007: ya, seems they both used "BZFS107e" |
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| 16:05.36 | Runic | my recent commit to trunk addresses the issue sigonasr2 was speaking of earlier, although I was testing with boxes with a height of 0.3 |
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| 20:08.03 | trepan | blast007: tag time? |
| 20:24.47 | blast007 | trepan: sure - is this the correct way? |
| 20:24.50 | blast007 | svn copy https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/tags/v3_0_alpha2/bzflag/ |
| 20:25.16 | blast007 | removes the trailing slash |
| 20:26.06 | trepan | i tagged the whole trunk last time; but ya, same idea |
| 20:26.47 | trepan | you might need to create 'tags/v3_0_alpha2/' before 'tags/v3_0_alpha2/bzflag/', not sure |
| 20:27.57 | blast007 | k |
| 20:30.09 | blast007 | yeah, seems so :) |
| 20:33.40 | CIA-86 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21206 10/tags/v3_0_alpha2/: Tag for 3.0 alpha 2 |
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| 21:14.33 | CIA-86 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21207 10/tags/v3_0_alpha2/bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Bump protocol and verison |
| 21:14.42 | blast007 | version* |
| 21:14.43 | CIA-86 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21208 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Bump protocol and verison |
| 21:14.43 | blast007 | :P |
| 21:23.36 | Cobra_Fast | hello |
| 21:23.57 | Cobra_Fast | could someone please moderate my textures i just uploaded to the repo? (PLEASE!!) |
| 21:24.13 | Cobra_Fast | (well its only 1 texture) |
| 21:27.52 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: done |
| 21:28.12 | Cobra_Fast | thanks! |
| 21:28.23 | Cobra_Fast | youre great! |
| 21:28.54 | blast007 | nah, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night |
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| 21:52.12 | blast007 | blah, this is working great... |
| 22:00.03 | blast007 | are the src/bzrobots/bzrobot_python_wrap.(cxx|h) and src/bzrobots/bzrobot_python_runtime.h files supposed to exist? |
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| 22:18.57 | trepan | blast007: it's borked -- if it isn't going to be maintained, i'd just as soon pull it ;) |
| 22:22.09 | BulletCatcher | Those files are generated (on Linux, anyway). |
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| 22:23.57 | BulletCatcher | If you are trying to build a tarball, then configure with --enable-bzrobots-python . |
| 22:29.19 | joevano | well my missle firing finger went head-to-head with a set of electric hedge clippers |
| 22:29.39 | joevano | hedge clippers 1 : Finger 0 |
| 22:30.02 | BulletCatcher | Wow. |
| 22:30.18 | joevano | luckily no appearent tendon orr bone damage |
| 22:30.43 | BulletCatcher | You expect to recover, then? |
| 22:30.47 | joevano | it was a little messy though... but only 20 stitches |
| 22:31.28 | joevano | yeah but my finger will be really scarred, but functioning.. or so the doc believes |
| 22:31.55 | joevano | just glad I didn't loose it |
| 22:32.02 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. |
| 22:33.05 | joevano | still got 6 bushes to trim... but maybe next weekend wiyh some manual ones |
| 22:33.38 | BulletCatcher | Use the electric. You'll be careful from now on. |
| 22:35.15 | joevano | you are probably right |
| 22:36.08 | BulletCatcher | You never hear about anyone having that sort of accident twice. |
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| 23:22.13 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I can't build bzrobots since I don't have OpenGL on my server ;) |
| 23:22.31 | blast007 | guess I'll have to get a full distro setup |
| 23:22.53 | blast007 | joevano: yikes |
| 23:53.32 | trepan | BulletCatcher: that's because you've never worked at a hospital, and folks probably avoid broadcasting that level of dumb when they can ;) |