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| 14:00.01 | brlcad | Constitution: hehe, I'm not going to laugh |
| 14:00.56 | brlcad | more of a smirking smile -- it's an improvement just to have *some* process written down |
| 14:01.30 | brlcad | I used to go through rather different steps (and have scripts I use to help pull things together, but far from automatic still) |
| 14:42.09 | Constitution | brlcad: yeah... aside from the md5 issue with cross-compiling, and the inability to build against an earlier SDK from the command line, it would be fairly straightforward |
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| 14:50.37 | lut4rp | Uhh, how does one's server get listed for player stats? |
| 14:51.09 | blast007 | any server that shows up for all players on the list will see it |
| 14:51.21 | blast007 | so, public servers that don't use -advertise |
| 14:52.05 | blast007 | assuming you're talking about the existing stats sites such as my.bzflag.org and bzstats.strayer.de |
| 14:52.22 | lut4rp | yes, I'm talking about stats like http://my.bzflag.org/playerinfo.php?callsign=lut4rp |
| 14:52.34 | lut4rp | And I'm talking about http://my.bzflag.org/serverlist.php server list. |
| 14:53.32 | blast007 | is your server public? |
| 14:54.26 | lut4rp | That is what I'm not sure about :) |
| 14:54.44 | lut4rp | trying to get to the friend who owns the server, must be our mistake :P |
| 14:55.23 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST is the actual raw server list |
| 14:55.35 | lut4rp | sees |
| 14:55.49 | Constitution | what is the server address? |
| 14:56.04 | lut4rp | 97.107.130.70 |
| 14:56.06 | lut4rp | punjaby.com |
| 14:56.11 | lut4rp | Nope, not there on the list. |
| 14:56.15 | Constitution | ~bzfquery punjaby.com:5154 |
| 14:56.24 | lut4rp | oh |
| 14:56.33 | lut4rp | ah yes, no one right now. |
| 14:57.07 | blast007 | it's up, at least |
| 14:57.14 | lut4rp | ~bzfquery punjaby.com:5154 |
| 14:57.14 | blast007 | just not showing up publically |
| 14:57.22 | lut4rp | OK, it shows me. |
| 14:57.44 | lut4rp | blast007, so we need to change our config to include both -public and -advertise ? |
| 14:57.55 | blast007 | no, you don't want -advertise |
| 14:57.59 | lut4rp | ah |
| 14:58.08 | lut4rp | ok, got that. |
| 14:58.12 | blast007 | that would restrict it to only show up for certain people (only advertises it to certain groups) |
| 14:58.24 | lut4rp | blast007, also, is there any way we can build our own stats? |
| 14:58.36 | lut4rp | say, for a single private server only? |
| 14:58.51 | blast007 | you'll want -public with a description of the server, and -publicaddr with the host and port (if not 5154) |
| 14:59.15 | blast007 | so, something like: -public "Super cool server" -publicaddr punjaby.com:5155 |
| 14:59.28 | blast007 | (or, in the case of port 5154, you can just do -publicaddr punjaby.com) |
| 15:00.00 | blast007 | and sure, you could have your own stats sites |
| 15:00.17 | blast007 | you could either write your own, or modify the one we use for the my.bzflag.org site |
| 15:00.32 | blast007 | the code for the site is in our SVN |
| 15:00.37 | blast007 | under /trunk/db/ |
| 15:00.37 | lut4rp | awesome. |
| 15:00.41 | lut4rp | does a co |
| 15:00.46 | blast007 | though it's a bit of a mess |
| 15:00.50 | lut4rp | lol |
| 15:00.53 | blast007 | also has a league and the list server in there |
| 15:00.53 | lut4rp | I'l see :) |
| 15:01.04 | blast007 | and it's a PHP site, but uses a Perl script to run the updates |
| 15:01.09 | blast007 | (and a custom perl module) |
| 15:01.20 | lut4rp | OK |
| 15:01.39 | blast007 | you'd want to tweak the script to only query your servers instead of everything |
| 15:01.57 | blast007 | there is also some scripts inside the misc/ directory of the bzflag source in various language to query an individual server |
| 15:02.06 | blast007 | think PHP, Python, and Perl |
| 15:02.12 | lut4rp | Ah |
| 15:02.23 | blast007 | those don't do anything to generate a nice looking page, though |
| 15:02.30 | blast007 | at least the PHP one doesn't |
| 15:02.44 | blast007 | it's just to pull current information (server info, player info) |
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| 15:04.00 | lut4rp | oops |
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| 15:12.32 | trepan | blast007: fwiw, http://list.bzflag.org/bzflag.html player counts do seem to include observers -- i redid the numbers based the /var/log/bzfls/ logs, and the average player count never cracks 90 (since July, 2009) |
| 15:12.57 | trepan | s/based/based on/ |
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| 16:17.32 | blast007 | trepan: heh |
| 16:31.19 | trepan | oops, i took another look; it does crack 90, on four days |
| 16:32.35 | BulletCatcher | There are roughly 30 perpetual observers on public maps. |
| 16:32.37 | BulletCatcher | Do the counts include private maps that use global authorization? |
| 16:32.54 | bryjen | what's the average number of running servers? |
| 16:33.25 | trepan | it includes all BZFS0026 servers listed in those logs |
| 16:34.29 | trepan | i'll clean it up later and make a graph |
| 16:35.26 | BulletCatcher | bryjen: The web page shows an average of 298 servers for the last 20 months. |
| 16:36.30 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: he used the list server logs, so yes, any server that reports to the list server, even ones that use -advertise |
| 16:37.43 | BulletCatcher | That suggests that the private servers have more total players than the public ones, at least during American nighttime. |
| 16:39.02 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/bzfls-parsed-logs.txt |
| 16:39.21 | JefferyM | what's the average players for the same timeframe? |
| 16:39.27 | trepan | s=servers, p=players, o=observers |
| 16:40.14 | BulletCatcher | It is not unusual for me to see only about 20 players total on public servers around 11 PM US/Pacific on week nights. |
| 16:42.28 | bryjen | currently 277 servers with 52 unique IPs. hmm |
| 16:42.42 | trepan | either way, I think that removing observers from the stats would be a good idea |
| 16:44.51 | BulletCatcher | Counting them separately should be sufficient. |
| 16:46.16 | trepan | s/from the stats/from the primary statistic/ |
| 16:46.23 | trepan | i'm sure you caught on to the idea ;) |
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| 21:22.18 | McSpider | Japanise Castles needs an admin, tobylanes there with a bad email and using swear words. |
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| 23:22.20 | joevano | anybody around to help poll ban on Jap Castle |
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| 23:31.14 | ahs3- | sure i will |
| 23:33.31 | joevano | thanks for the help |
| 23:34.13 | ahs3- | np |