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00:26.16mrappleif anyone is curious sk3 got a new host and ip and i happen to have it >:)
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12:41.35tsblast007: ping
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15:56.59blast007ts: pong
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16:03.25tsblast007: Am I missing something or is bzfs not designed to have bases outside of the map bounds?
16:05.04tsblast007: I tried limiting flag spawns and player spawns to within the map bounds but I kept spawning outside of the map and thus instantly kicked.
16:05.28trepanwhy do you want bases outside of the map bounds?
16:05.36tsblast007: thus I modded the server..and wonder if you could review the changes
16:06.10tsMy map was confusing and some little bases outside will help the players to know where to go
16:06.22blast007eh
16:06.38trepanfor the colors on the radar, is that what you're trying to get at?
16:06.44tsyeah
16:07.49tsit's funny that the server computes the spawn position outside of map and when the player spawns, bzfs kicks him ;)
16:07.50blast007wouldn't freeCtfSpawns make it work properly?
16:08.11blast007makes players not spawn on the base
16:08.34tsThey should spawn on a base. Just not on the one outside of the map.
16:08.52blast007so make a spawn zone on the base they SHOULD
16:09.02blast007and use freeCtfSpawns if necessary
16:09.45tsI thought the invalid spawn positions are part of the server, not like a job for plugins
16:09.57blast007who said anything about a plugin?
16:10.28tshmm, freeCtfSpawns is no plugin?
16:10.39trepanit's a BZDB var
16:11.01blast007it can also go in the world block
16:12.48trepanhm, looks like you might need zone team flags
16:13.15tsIs it possible to let the players spawn at their first time on a base with that and afterwards always at a different zone?
16:13.29blast007with a plugin
16:14.05tsLooks like I have a new task for next weekend :)
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16:31.55tsIs there a different way to get the colour on radar?
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16:45.43tsblast007: Hrm, with freeCtfSpawns the flag still spawns outside
16:46.53blast007I never said it would make the flag spawn differently
16:47.09trepanhm, looks like you might need zone team flags  <--
16:47.10blast007how many team flags do you have?
16:47.50ts2 flags, one purpe and one red, with the red one it works
16:48.04tstrying out zones again
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16:48.41blast007is the base that is inside the map the first base on the bzw?
16:48.49JeffM2501it should be simple to mod the server to let a base go outside, then exclide it from the spawn list
16:50.22tsthe base that is outside is the first base..
16:50.45blast007ts: define that one after the base that is inside
16:50.49tsfirst red outside, then purple outside, red inside, purple inside
16:50.56tswith purple it works
16:51.05blast007shrugs
16:51.21blast007use zones or a bzfs mod or a plugin :)
16:52.32tszones tried with modified server: no change, trying original server now
16:53.26JeffM2501wasn't there a spec for 2.5 radar geometry somehwere?
16:54.44tsoriginal server: same..
16:54.58trepan2.5 ?
16:55.06tshrm, maybe I should try just to generate a new flag with zoneflag inside the map
16:55.18JeffM25012.5d sorry
16:55.26JeffM2501flat 2 d with a height
16:55.59trepanstill don't know what you're talking about  :)
16:56.08trepana spec for a heightmap format?
16:56.35tslol zoneflag steals the flag from outside and brings it inside
16:56.38JeffM2501a map object that only shows up on radar and is defined with a 2d poygon(s) and a height
16:56.46JeffM2501and a color, and a text note
16:56.55JeffM2501then have it only draw on the client radar
16:57.00JeffM2501like map anotations
16:57.38trepancan be done in 2.99
16:57.49JeffM2501cool
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