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| 03:38.51 | trepan | bzr up |
| 03:39.06 | trepan | oops ;) |
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| 07:27.26 | Constitution | ~bzflist |
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| 09:52.19 | Constitution | delusional ping |
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| 12:15.24 | Constitution | BulletCatcher: when you changed the version number for 2.0.16, did you change the build type from "DEVEL" to "MAINT"? |
| 12:39.13 | trepan | the debian version: BZFlag client 2.0.16.20100405-DEVEL-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) |
| 13:09.19 | Constitution | hmm, guess not... oh well, something to remember next time |
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| 16:09.46 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r21012 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/DEVINFO: Add instructions for modifying BZ_BUILD_TYPE when making a release. |
| 16:09.50 | Constitution | 2.0.16 mac build -> http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/MacOSX/BZFlag-2.0.16.dmg ... needs testing please |
| 16:10.09 | blast007 | Constitution: doesn't work on my Mac. |
| 16:10.15 | Constitution | heh |
| 16:10.25 | blast007 | but neither does OSX |
| 16:10.31 | Constitution | because of the build, or because of your mac? |
| 16:10.46 | blast007 | that mac that just plays the mac sound and doesn't do anything else ;) |
| 16:10.59 | Constitution | whas that a power supply issue? |
| 16:11.05 | blast007 | no idea |
| 16:11.11 | blast007 | probably the main board |
| 16:11.27 | blast007 | not really worth fixing in any case |
| 16:11.32 | Constitution | I hear they make nice expensive doorstops |
| 16:11.32 | blast007 | it's a PPC |
| 16:11.43 | JefferyM | I wish the new mini was cheaper |
| 16:11.51 | blast007 | yeah |
| 16:12.01 | blast007 | the only two I would even consider is the mini and the mac pro |
| 16:12.08 | blast007 | I don't want a screen :P |
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| 16:12.15 | blast007 | (and I can't afford the mac pro) |
| 16:12.21 | blast007 | yet |
| 16:12.26 | JefferyM | 600$'s a bit out of impulse buy range |
| 16:13.26 | bambino | blast007: ever tried a custom build of the Mac Pro on Apple.com? |
| 16:13.52 | JefferyM | apple overcharges for most components, so may as well just put them in yourself |
| 16:13.57 | blast007 | bambino: if by "custom" you mean "is that decimal place off by one", then yes |
| 16:14.53 | bambino | did you max out the stats on it? I got up to $23,000 |
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| 16:30.44 | BulletCatcher | Constitution: Your Mac build looks fine on my 10.4.11 MacBook. |
| 16:32.52 | joevano | And on my Mac Pro (Late-2009) and MacBook Pro 17" (Uni-body) both are on 10.6.2 |
| 16:33.12 | joevano | wil check it on leopard and older hardware in a bit |
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| 16:41.03 | Constitution | thanks guys |
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| 16:48.57 | BulletCatcher | I am a *very* dedicated BZFlag tester. Last night I spent 1 1/2 hours making sure the new client works correctly with the MW2 server. :-) |
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| 17:45.01 | delusional | comstitution pong |
| 17:45.36 | delusional | comstitution pong... may as well spell it correctly |
| 17:46.20 | delusional | Constitution oh man, it's one of those days |
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| 20:24.03 | mrapple | is there a reason why i cant ping bzflag.org? |
| 20:24.09 | mrapple | im assuming global and such is down |
| 20:25.41 | mrapple | uhm, i can ping bzflag.org from bzbureau.com but not my computer :\ |
| 20:26.14 | Cobra_Fast | JefferyM: http://pastebin.com/1Ki9NjD6 <- any idea why the reading thread exits after running line 71? |
| 20:30.10 | JefferyM | Cobra_Fast, does it throw an exception? |
| 20:30.54 | Cobra_Fast | line 76 does then, because line 71 didnt finish properly - the exception says that the thread exited and the obtained data was invalid |
| 20:31.00 | Cobra_Fast | but line 71 does not |
| 20:31.13 | JefferyM | I'd put 71 in a try catch and see what it does |
| 20:31.28 | JefferyM | then put a breakpoint in the catch |
| 20:31.43 | mrapple | JefferyM: i seem to be banned from bzflag.org |
| 20:31.46 | JefferyM | but I'm not an expert on raw streams |
| 20:31.50 | JefferyM | mrapple, ok good for you |
| 20:31.59 | mrapple | erm, can you do anything about that? |
| 20:32.19 | JefferyM | dunno |
| 20:32.31 | Cobra_Fast | how would i catch any exception and print it to the debug console? } catch (Exception e) { ... } ? |
| 20:33.10 | JefferyM | Cobra_Fast, try { thingy'} catch (System.exception e ){console.write (e.tostring())} |
| 20:33.12 | JefferyM | bassicly |
| 20:33.29 | JefferyM | the exception class has all kinds of cool info in it |
| 20:33.33 | JefferyM | including a stack trace |
| 20:33.48 | JefferyM | mrapple, you can't get to the website or anything? |
| 20:33.55 | mrapple | nope, cant ping it either |
| 20:34.06 | Cobra_Fast | ok it doesnt catch any exceptions there |
| 20:34.15 | JefferyM | pings don't realy say anything |
| 20:34.51 | JefferyM | they are often bocked |
| 20:35.00 | JefferyM | Cobra_Fast, then it just runs normaly |
| 20:35.04 | JefferyM | how much data did it read? |
| 20:35.16 | mrapple | none |
| 20:35.22 | JefferyM | mrapple, not you |
| 20:35.23 | Cobra_Fast | mrapple is right |
| 20:35.33 | JefferyM | how much is in the stream? |
| 20:35.35 | mrapple | er ok |
| 20:35.40 | Cobra_Fast | cuz the client didnt send any, it'd just connect |
| 20:36.32 | JefferyM | I'm not a sockets expert I'd have to build the project and debug it to do more |
| 20:36.56 | Cobra_Fast | i thought u might be abled to help me because i know you do c# too |
| 20:37.25 | JefferyM | your problem is not with C# it's with the .net sockets stuff |
| 20:37.41 | Cobra_Fast | hmm |
| 20:37.58 | JefferyM | you can call that stuff from any language that has CLI bindings |
| 20:38.06 | Cobra_Fast | i know |
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| 20:38.27 | JefferyM | mail me all your stuff and I can look at it, but I have to do some real work first |
| 20:38.27 | Cobra_Fast | sadly i have to use .NET 2.0 to have it unix/linux compatible |
| 20:39.01 | JefferyM | that's fine |
| 20:41.51 | JefferyM | what are you trying to do? |
| 20:43.39 | Cobra_Fast | im building up a networking library (what you see there is the server class) for my own tiny network-game |
| 20:46.40 | JefferyM | I just use lidgren |
| 20:46.42 | JefferyM | it's awesome |
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| 20:46.56 | Cobra_Fast | i assume it isnt .net 2.0? |
| 20:47.08 | JefferyM | you assume incorrectly |
| 20:47.19 | JefferyM | lidgren is fully cross plat |
| 20:47.24 | Cobra_Fast | :o |
| 20:47.28 | JefferyM | most things are |
| 20:47.37 | JefferyM | current mono supports a lot of .net 3.0 stuff |
| 20:47.53 | JefferyM | I haven't found anything that dosn't work yet |
| 20:48.21 | JefferyM | if you want I have client and server wrapers around lidgren that make it all threaded |
| 20:48.31 | JefferyM | even does SSL style crypto if you want |
| 20:48.45 | JefferyM | http://code.google.com/p/lidgren-network/ |
| 20:48.53 | JefferyM | lidgren is talored to gaming |
| 20:49.04 | JefferyM | does channels, udp, all the stuff that is needed |
| 20:49.19 | JefferyM | and buffer overlflow management, that's the big one |
| 20:49.49 | JefferyM | but if you want to learn .net sockets that's cool too |
| 20:49.57 | JefferyM | send me your project and I'll take a look at it |
| 20:54.03 | JefferyM | mrapple, you do anything recently that would have it the server a lot? |
| 20:54.10 | JefferyM | like lots of queries or scans? |
| 20:54.21 | brlcad | he was, cleared it up |
| 20:54.22 | mrapple | JefferyM: brlcad helped me out |
| 20:54.30 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 20:54.35 | JefferyM | he get auto banned? :) |
| 20:59.18 | Cobra_Fast | but i'd then have to "learn" lidgren |
| 20:59.39 | Cobra_Fast | i'd rather code stuff up myself so i know whats inside and how to work with it |
| 20:59.45 | JefferyM | ok |
| 20:59.58 | JefferyM | an API is not like a language |
| 21:00.00 | brlcad | JefferyM: actually manually firewalled |
| 21:00.07 | JefferyM | techincaly you are "learning" .net sockets |
| 21:00.12 | brlcad | wrong activity at the wrong time |
| 21:00.15 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 21:00.29 | JefferyM | Cobra_Fast, so send me what you got and I can look at it if you want |
| 21:00.40 | JefferyM | API's are APIs ;) |
| 21:00.54 | Cobra_Fast | well this thing there is pretty much it |
| 21:01.14 | brlcad | was hitting up the server with loads of requests (iirc, like > 100) while it was already heavy loaded and actively being investigated |
| 21:01.23 | Cobra_Fast | i quick built a small client to connect to a console holding this server class |
| 21:01.25 | JefferyM | what was he hitting it that much for? |
| 21:01.42 | JefferyM | Cobra_Fast, that'd be what I need, send me ALL you got, tests, code, solutions |
| 21:01.43 | brlcad | web dev against bzbb logins with multiple browsers |
| 21:01.53 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 21:01.59 | Cobra_Fast | ok, where would i send it? |
| 21:02.06 | Cobra_Fast | pm? |
| 21:02.07 | JefferyM | jeffm2501 at gmail |
| 21:02.15 | brlcad | wouldn't have noticed had it not been when the server was already hurting |
| 21:02.15 | JefferyM | ponders newer cars to buy |
| 21:02.21 | JefferyM | poor server |
| 21:02.24 | Cobra_Fast | gmail.com or googlemail.com |
| 21:02.29 | JefferyM | gmail |
| 21:02.51 | Cobra_Fast | mind me zipping all the stuff? ;P |
| 21:04.32 | JefferyM | I'd prefer it |
| 21:04.36 | JefferyM | zip good |
| 21:06.03 | JefferyM | hmmmmm... looks like I can get a late model miata for under 4 grand.... |
| 21:07.22 | JefferyM | woudn't be as nice as brlcad's car but it'd be better then "truck" :) |
| 21:07.22 | Cobra_Fast | k mail sent. |
| 21:08.03 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:08.25 | brlcad | got sunburnt today after driving too far with the top off |
| 21:08.32 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:08.39 | Cobra_Fast | what car's he got? |
| 21:08.45 | JefferyM | a very nice one |
| 21:08.52 | JefferyM | I still can't belive you park that on the street |
| 21:08.53 | Cobra_Fast | you already said that :P |
| 21:09.24 | brlcad | it's a lotus |
| 21:09.32 | Cobra_Fast | my brother's got one of the very early miatas (MX-5) |
| 21:09.43 | Cobra_Fast | oh yup thats a fancy car :P |
| 21:10.53 | JefferyM | I'm just sick of my truck |
| 21:11.23 | Cobra_Fast | rent a mustang over weekend |
| 21:11.52 | brlcad | Cobra_Fast: mm, you go to their website, it's just like the car on the left with the color of the one on the right |
| 21:12.32 | Cobra_Fast | so the elise in orange? :p |
| 21:12.50 | brlcad | yep :) |
| 21:13.21 | Cobra_Fast | i always see a old elise in green when going to school - parked on the street |
| 21:13.37 | brlcad | old? how old? |
| 21:13.40 | Cobra_Fast | neon green (or something) |
| 21:13.55 | Cobra_Fast | idk its always been there since i noticed it |
| 21:13.57 | Cobra_Fast | (years) |
| 21:14.02 | brlcad | they've only been available in US for about 5 years |
| 21:14.24 | Cobra_Fast | yeah probably an import then |
| 21:14.40 | JefferyM | mustang's are crap |
| 21:14.48 | Cobra_Fast | then get a viper |
| 21:15.04 | JefferyM | why do you keep sugesting crap cars that can't go arround a corner ;) |
| 21:15.18 | JefferyM | I don't have a mail from you |
| 21:15.23 | Cobra_Fast | huh? |
| 21:15.24 | JefferyM | you used jeffm2501 right? |
| 21:15.46 | JefferyM | vipers are good for making tire smoke |
| 21:15.50 | Cobra_Fast | jeffm2501 a gmail dot com |
| 21:16.01 | JefferyM | guess it' still in transit then |
| 21:16.06 | Cobra_Fast | hmm |
| 21:17.13 | Cobra_Fast | wtwrp.de mail-queue is empty, so it should be somewhere inside gmail |
| 21:17.42 | Cobra_Fast | on journey from node to node :P |
| 21:17.52 | JefferyM | the final frontier |
| 21:19.58 | Cobra_Fast | also no reports of lost or undeliverable mails |
| 21:20.05 | Cobra_Fast | so i guess you have to wait |
| 21:20.05 | Cobra_Fast | :P |
| 21:20.11 | JefferyM | such is life |
| 21:22.21 | JefferyM | brlcad, how goes move to new server? |
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| 21:26.37 | brlcad | JefferyM: you too eh? :) |
| 21:26.52 | JefferyM | ? |
| 21:27.07 | jh` | hi jefff |
| 21:27.10 | brlcad | it goes slowly but steady :) |
| 21:27.15 | JefferyM | fun |
| 21:27.20 | JefferyM | hello jh` |
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| 23:49.33 | Constitution | delusional: hehe... when you get a chance, can you please test http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/MacOSX/BZFlag-2.0.16.dmg ... specifically can you see if you have that same issue you had with the 2.0.14 build |
| 23:52.27 | Constitution | also I need someone to test on ppc, if possible |
| 23:58.30 | a_meteorite | Constitution: if I have an imac g5 |
| 23:58.33 | a_meteorite | what do I need to test for? |
| 23:58.46 | Constitution | cool... just see if it works |
| 23:58.59 | a_meteorite | k |
| 23:59.03 | Constitution | join a game, start a server, load plugins, basically |