| 00:04.50 | JefferyM | thinks that's enough php for one day |
| 00:06.01 | trepan | dislikes $php |
| 00:06.16 | JefferyM | as do I |
| 00:06.29 | JefferyM | I'll be happy when we hire a web guy |
| 00:06.42 | trepan | pity python or lua or something with closures didn't take that role |
| 00:06.57 | JefferyM | I could do it with asp.net |
| 00:07.11 | JefferyM | but I don't have the time to rewrite all our stuff |
| 00:07.19 | trepan | dislikes OS lock-in :) |
| 00:07.28 | JefferyM | runs on linux |
| 00:07.33 | JefferyM | mod-mono |
| 00:07.51 | trepan | probably some compat issues, but good to know |
| 00:08.02 | JefferyM | from what I can tell it's prety nice |
| 00:08.06 | JefferyM | it'd do what we want |
| 00:08.30 | JefferyM | a lot of people don't like it because it's very different from php or other "Web scripting" systems |
| 00:08.37 | JefferyM | it's not a system to add script logic to pages |
| 00:08.47 | JefferyM | it's a system to add HTML output to applications |
| 00:09.57 | trepan | so are we killing 2.99 ? |
| 00:10.00 | JefferyM | you can't think in terms of "pages", you have to think more in terms of GUI dialogs, and the browser is that for you |
| 00:10.17 | JefferyM | BulletCatcher said he was going to work on it more |
| 00:10.40 | JefferyM | I assume you all were unable to get the laggy crap worked out even with the DR comp off? |
| 00:11.16 | trepan | never tried |
| 00:12.20 | JefferyM | to me it still seems like nobody giives a crap about it |
| 00:12.34 | trepan | seems to me like someone broke something they ought not to have |
| 00:12.34 | JefferyM | but brlcad and DTRemenak should chime in on it as well |
| 00:12.42 | JefferyM | they are possibly less radical then I :) |
| 00:13.52 | trepan | if 2.99 offered real simulation improvements (auth server), it might be different |
| 00:14.46 | trepan | but as it stands, it might be worth shoving a crappy 3.0 out the door just to have it over and done with (crappy, but no worst than 2.0.x) |
| 00:15.49 | JefferyM | but then would you want to build on that? |
| 00:15.54 | trepan | hell no ;) |
| 00:15.57 | JefferyM | that's the main question is it a good enough baseline |
| 00:16.03 | JefferyM | then what's the point of releasing it? |
| 00:16.11 | JefferyM | backport what is good into branch |
| 00:16.22 | trepan | requires proto changes |
| 00:16.50 | trepan | i can jack all kinds of visual changes into branch, but simulation should be consistent |
| 00:16.56 | trepan | (ex: the meshy bases and links) |
| 00:17.24 | JefferyM | if that's the "meat" from 3.0 and the only thing good, then there ain't much reason to keep 3 with a different proto |
| 00:17.38 | JefferyM | or backport to branch, ditch 3 and break branch into a "new 3" |
| 00:17.43 | JefferyM | aka start over |
| 00:17.56 | trepan | there's the font system (slow) |
| 00:18.15 | trepan | some network overhaul (has issues?) |
| 00:18.36 | trepan | fvec3 rework (cleaner, could be redone in a day) |
| 00:18.42 | trepan | what else ? |
| 00:19.30 | trepan | clientbase separation (not terribly clean anyways) |
| 00:24.44 | JefferyM | the other question is other then you who else would work on the codebase if 3.0 was ditched in some way |
| 00:24.53 | JefferyM | if it's just you it's mostly moot |
| 00:25.26 | trepan | heh, so don't call 2.99 dead, call bzflag dead :) |
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| 00:30.11 | JefferyM | it may be |
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| 00:42.21 | dexter- | list server's shaky.. |
| 00:42.44 | Bambino | Bzbb and wiki is down |
| 00:42.57 | dexter- | are :p |
| 00:42.59 | Bambino | Mysql errors |
| 00:43.54 | Bambino | I was going to say "bzbb and wiki is now down" but I forgot the change the gammar errors. :) |
| 00:44.46 | Bambino | dexter-: English are my first language :P |
| 00:44.59 | dexter- | is |
| 00:45.11 | dexter- | :P |
| 00:45.19 | Bambino | Heh |
| 00:45.42 | Bambino | </thatwasajoke> |
| 00:50.11 | dexter- | laterz |
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| 00:52.26 | mrapple_away | ms hi |
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| 02:32.47 | mrapple | erm, everything went down again |
| 02:32.53 | mrapple | *hopes theres someone here to fix it* |
| 02:33.18 | mrapple | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ is, uh, screwing out and the motd/list serve isnt working :P |
| 02:33.56 | blast007 | yeah, it was not responding, so I restarted apache and mysql... but.... mysql won't start now :P |
| 02:34.02 | blast007 | brlcad: ping ^ |
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| 02:39.15 | blast007 | well, on the plus side, everything times out faster :P |
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| 02:42.57 | mrapple | hehe |
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| 02:47.33 | blast007 | looks like I got it |
| 02:48.11 | blast007 | seemed that mysql was still running (processes were still alive, just not responding to anything) ... so I ended up forcefully killing them :/ |
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| 02:52.22 | mrapple | pleasnt |
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| 02:57.15 | blast007 | and down again |
| 02:57.17 | blast007 | oh well |
| 03:00.14 | mrapple | heh |
| 03:00.18 | mrapple | whats going on? |
| 03:00.32 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 03:00.53 | blast007 | damn gremlins keep stealing all the bits |
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| 03:43.55 | JeffM2501 | so what exactly is wrong with .bz? |
| 03:45.18 | blast007 | not sure |
| 03:47.51 | JeffM2501 | how long's it been borked? |
| 03:48.26 | blast007 | about 24 hours now, off and on |
| 03:49.19 | JeffM2501 | the plan to leave the boards disabled till it clears up? |
| 03:49.33 | blast007 | not that it helped much |
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| 07:55.00 | remote | red alert |
| 07:56.10 | remote | mysql is eating dust |
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| 16:06.24 | joevano | so who to thank for getting thge forums back up? |
| 16:07.53 | blast007 | well, I just turned it back on :P |
| 16:08.21 | blast007 | since having them down didn't fix anything |
| 16:08.36 | blast007 | but ipfw did, so far ;) |
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| 16:41.37 | brad | mysql down again |
| 16:42.29 | blast007 | yup |
| 16:43.12 | blast007 | it went on its government mandated lunch break |
| 16:44.28 | blast007 | and we're back |
| 16:44.34 | blast007 | for the next 10 minutes |
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| 17:29.44 | Cobra_Fast | whats wrong with this mysql? |
| 17:30.21 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: chinese hosts keep hitting the server |
| 17:30.38 | Cobra_Fast | blackhole 'em? |
| 17:30.48 | blast007 | I've been firewalling them, yes |
| 17:31.05 | blast007 | doesn't seem like it's down right now though |
| 17:31.19 | Cobra_Fast | yup ok |
| 17:33.12 | JeffM2501 | block all of china for a day |
| 17:33.19 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:33.26 | blast007 | easier said than done |
| 17:33.27 | JeffM2501 | I do not jest |
| 17:33.36 | blast007 | there be LOTS of ranges :P |
| 17:33.42 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:33.54 | JeffM2501 | block some class As |
| 17:33.58 | blast007 | the three IPs I blocked are from different blocks |
| 17:34.07 | Cobra_Fast | block *.cn |
| 17:34.33 | JeffM2501 | you can't do reverse lookups in firewall blocks IIRC |
| 17:34.41 | blast007 | plus these don't have hostnames anyway :P |
| 17:34.43 | JeffM2501 | that makes the server take time to do the reverse lookup |
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| 20:41.00 | JefferyM | so how would I replace the last _ in a string in php with a .? |
| 20:41.03 | JefferyM | but only the last _ |
| 20:42.23 | mrapple | erm, maybe preg_match then array_reverse then preg replace? |
| 20:44.35 | BulletCatcher | In Perl it would be like this: s/_([^_]*)$/.$1/ |
| 20:44.42 | Yassen | $text = preg_replace("/_$/", ".", $text); |
| 20:44.58 | Yassen | that seems to work |
| 20:45.02 | mrapple | or you could do it yassen's way :P |
| 20:45.40 | BulletCatcher | I suspect there may be other characters after the last _ . |
| 20:45.59 | JefferyM | there are |
| 20:46.06 | JefferyM | it's a file name |
| 20:46.14 | BulletCatcher | thought so |
| 20:46.15 | JefferyM | but the form changed thingy.gif to thingy_gif |
| 20:46.23 | JefferyM | and I need to turn it back into thingy.gif |
| 20:46.31 | JefferyM | but the file may have valid _ in it |
| 20:47.21 | BulletCatcher | Based on Yassen's suggestion: $text = preg_replace("/_([^_]*)$/", ".$1", $text); |
| 20:47.22 | JefferyM | and that disn't seem to do anything |
| 20:47.37 | BulletCatcher | But that uses Perl regex syntax. |
| 20:47.51 | JefferyM | that worked |
| 20:47.52 | JefferyM | thanks |
| 20:47.57 | BulletCatcher | Yay. |
| 20:48.19 | JefferyM | one file manager for an online store :) |
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