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| 12:38.22 | atrixnet | anyone familiar with bzflag user "horton" ?? |
| 12:38.31 | blast007 | no |
| 12:38.46 | atrixnet | dude has logged into my server with bots |
| 12:38.54 | atrixnet | he sends me a pm begging to be unbanned |
| 12:39.03 | brad` | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.03 | atrixnet | he says he only did it to voteban a cheater |
| 12:39.11 | atrixnet | brad - I have |
| 12:39.17 | brad` | oh multiple clients? |
| 12:39.23 | atrixnet | yes |
| 12:39.27 | brad` | gotcha |
| 12:39.32 | atrixnet | almost instantly all of them connect though |
| 12:39.41 | atrixnet | very suspicious |
| 12:39.43 | blast007 | probably sk3 |
| 12:39.46 | brad` | ^ |
| 12:39.53 | blast007 | leave them banned |
| 12:40.00 | atrixnet | his pm was long, involved, and eloquent |
| 12:40.16 | atrixnet | but basically I've personally witnessed his behavior |
| 12:40.24 | atrixnet | and I consider it grounds for a ban |
| 12:40.40 | atrixnet | I just wanted to know how the community thinks about this |
| 12:41.10 | atrixnet | is it only me who considers use of bots for votebanning or any other reason -- to be a cheat? |
| 12:42.15 | atrixnet | I want to respond: while you've plead your case very eloquently, the answer I have for you is very plain: I've personally witnessed your behavior and consider it grounds for a ban. You, nor your bots are not welcome. |
| 12:42.20 | atrixnet | to hars? |
| 12:42.23 | atrixnet | harsh |
| 12:43.05 | atrixnet | blast007: ok I agree with your opinion, but would you even respond to the PM? |
| 12:43.17 | brad` | I wouldn't personally ban someone if they were helping to remove a cheater |
| 12:43.39 | brad` | But......I don't really believe he was trying to remove a cheater |
| 12:43.57 | atrixnet | brad: neither do I |
| 12:44.04 | brad` | More like poll banning innocent players :) |
| 12:44.08 | blast007 | "I just wanted to know how the community thinks about this" the "community" doesn't really care ;) |
| 12:44.13 | atrixnet | yep, that's what he's done |
| 12:45.25 | blast007 | and it's up to you if/how you respond |
| 12:45.37 | atrixnet | blast, that is not heartening, regarding your comment about the "community" |
| 12:46.08 | blast007 | why would various players care if one random individual is banned? |
| 12:46.31 | atrixnet | oh, ok I should have been more specific when saying "community" |
| 12:47.14 | atrixnet | by community, I meant the group of respected admins and players here on IRC, who I consider, at least in part, to be the backbone, heart and soul of bzflag collectively |
| 12:47.22 | atrixnet | your opinions matter a great deal to me |
| 12:48.17 | atrixnet | I look up to and admire you, for both your experience as well as your service to players who play on the servers that many of you provide for free |
| 12:48.45 | blast007 | I actually charge a $5 fee to play |
| 12:50.21 | atrixnet | was I clear in my restatement of what I was referring to as the "community" here? |
| 12:50.32 | blast007 | yeah |
| 12:51.53 | atrixnet | I hope you folks know that I'm not kissing butt. I meant what I said. You guys are awesome. And by the way, thank you for helping me to provide a better experience for my player guests. |
| 13:03.13 | brad` | :) |
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| 17:10.25 | BulletCatcher | Branch r20978 has the BulletCatcher seal of approval for 2.0.16. |
| 17:10.27 | BulletCatcher | blast007, if you can make the tarballs on your older Debian system as you did for .14 then we'll still have autotools backward compatability. |
| 17:15.46 | blast007 | ok |
| 17:16.19 | blast007 | want me to do that now with v2_0branch as a test? |
| 17:19.18 | JefferyM | if we want to start making the packages today that is TOTALY fine |
| 17:19.27 | JefferyM | make em and call em 16 |
| 17:19.53 | JefferyM | optimaly I'd like to build em today, and announce tonight |
| 17:20.00 | JefferyM | that gives us some time for some "opps" :) |
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| 17:28.51 | BulletCatcher | I have built and tested tarballs of r20978, and I am confident of its "so far, so good" status. I can't test on Windows, though. |
| 17:30.01 | BulletCatcher | It would be worthwhile to make a .zip file and test that on Windows just to be sure. |
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| 17:36.42 | blast007 | JefferyM: I tried building 2.0.x in VC9 with the instructions you had on the forum, but I'm getting a missing symbol error regarding GLEW |
| 17:37.37 | blast007 | the GLEW lib that 2.99.x generates is also glew32s.lib instead of glew32.lib, which I changed in the project settings for 2.0.x |
| 17:40.16 | blast007 | unresolved external symbol __imp____GLEW_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic referenced in function "public: __thiscall DisplayMenu::DisplayMenu(void)" (??0DisplayMenu@@QAE@XZ) DisplayMenu.obj bzflag |
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| 18:01.03 | JefferyM | hmmm |
| 18:01.10 | JefferyM | where did you get the glew? |
| 18:01.30 | JefferyM | oh... I think you need to make sure it's building glew with multithread |
| 18:01.33 | JefferyM | also |
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| 18:09.00 | Yassen | Does 2.0.15/16 still only build with the DirectX SDK from April 2007 and not the newest version? |
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| 18:13.21 | JefferyM | 14 was updatd to the current one |
| 18:13.27 | JefferyM | so 15 and 16 do that too |
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| 22:40.47 | P_A_N_D_A | Anyone here an admin on missilewar 2.3? Because for some reason when everyone types something it comes out jumbled up and in caps |
| 22:41.35 | P_A_N_D_A | Blast? you there |
| 22:43.59 | P_A_N_D_A | ok apparently it's a plugin, sry |
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| 22:46.31 | ahs3- | blast007: Nice Plugin, lol |
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