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00:14.38CIA-80BZFlag: 03catay * r20962 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/TimeLimit/ (6 files): Add the The TimeLimit plugin.
00:15.59catayBulletCatcher: it's commited. the vcproj probably needs to be updated too
00:16.15catayand Makefile.am stuff also needs to be done
00:16.22cataybut i'll leave that over to you :)
00:16.59JeffMthan ks
00:17.03JeffMthanks even :)
00:17.41catayyour welcome :)
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00:46.37CIA-80BZFlag: 03trepan * r20963 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/BackgroundRenderer.cxx:
00:46.37CIA-80BZFlag: * black fog fix for ground receivers
00:46.37CIA-80BZFlag:  (you can see the difference on maps with fog enabled)
00:47.06trepandidn't fix it for the rest of the rendering cases as was done for 2.99.x
00:48.08CIA-80BZFlag: 03trepan * r20964 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (MainWindow.cxx MainWindow.h playing.cxx): * added observer mouse controls
00:48.52CIA-80BZFlag: 03trepan * r20965 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx: * added the '/forceradar' command, for observers on "no-radar" maps
00:50.21CIA-80BZFlag: 03trepan * r20966 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx: * killed a FIXME
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01:01.46CIA-80BZFlag: 03trepan * r20967 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: * fixed the MsgSetVar bug introduced in r20964
01:12.41CIA-80BZFlag: 03trepan * r20968 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ChangeLog: * updated for recent commits (r20963-r20967)
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02:05.44BulletCatcherThanks very much, catay.
02:06.13CIA-80BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20969 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Build and distribute the new TimeLimit plugin, and mention it in the ChangeLog.
02:07.14BulletCatcherAs he mentioned, I am sure the .vcproj file(s) need love.
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02:16.55JeffMplugin won't build on windows
02:17.25JeffMnoone hosts on windows anyway
02:20.21JeffMI'd have to change code to make it work and it may break linux
02:20.56JeffM#include <regex.h>
02:20.56JeffM<PROTECTED>
02:22.05JeffMalso our regex.h is regex2.h
02:24.00JeffMor bzregex.h I guess
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02:31.19CIA-80BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20970 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/TimeLimit/ (TimeLimit.cpp TimeLimit.sln TimeLimit.vcproj):
02:31.19CIA-80BZFlag: update to vc9
02:31.19CIA-80BZFlag: include regex
02:31.19CIA-80BZFlag: use bzregex not system regex because windows don't have a system regex, and if it's good enough for bz then it's good enough for a plugin
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03:16.17BulletCatcherTimeLimit still compiles for me at r20970.  Thanks, JeffM.
03:42.20JeffMsure
03:54.10BulletCatcherThe plugin works, too.
03:54.16BulletCatcher~catay++
03:55.03JeffMI did not add it to the plugin build solution
03:55.33BulletCatcherIs that hard to do?
03:55.44JeffMno, I'm just lazy
03:55.48JeffMand lots of plugins arn't in it
03:55.49BulletCatcher:-)
03:55.55JeffMfor branch
03:56.04BulletCatcherIf it is not alone, then that's okay.
03:56.06JeffMI don't see the plugin in trunk
03:56.19BulletCatcherIt hasn't been added there yet.
03:56.20JeffMtrunk uses fullbuild and that should get it
03:56.21JeffMk
03:57.10BulletCatcherI'll copy it to trunk after we get .16 out.
03:57.11BulletCatcherOne thing at a time.
03:57.56BulletCatcherHaving TimeLimit will make it a lot easier for the league servers to upgrade.
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06:35.48temporalDbuild error in CommandsImplementation.cxx
06:35.50temporalDhttp://planetmofo.pastebin.com/RsfRK70U
06:35.55temporalDbranch
06:36.30temporalDwill try autogen now
06:37.52temporalDsame error
06:43.36temporalDand same error after 'make dist clean' - but have to sleep now :)
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14:09.59delusional_> I've got a player who's son is autistic... he wants to lock his client into seeing only FFA servers and join as rogue, because he keeps getting banned for TK
14:10.21delusional_no way to set the list to show only FFA?
14:12.37delusional_what does this control?  #set f2bsort 1
14:13.13a_meteoriteprobably needs a source mod
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14:17.01delusional_as long as I'm asking stupid questions...  what's this is config.cfg?    set startcode
14:19.04bradI think that's to do with starting a server from within the client
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14:21.54trepandelusional_: f2bsort = front-to-back sort, a rendering setting
14:24.14delusional_thanks.  and startcode?
14:33.45trepanfor the ServerStartMenu settings... not what you want
14:36.08trepandelusional_: if you want to write a patch, you might search for "// do filtering" in ServerMenu.cxx
14:46.47trepandelusional_: have a patch started for ya, should do what you want and more
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15:27.18delusional_wow, that's cool
15:29.44trepanchanging it a little bit now, so that you can set the listFilter BZDB variable to something like  *:+j,-r,-t,s>2,s<4,p>3.1
15:30.32trepanrequire jumping, forbid rico, forbid team (ctf), shots must be 3, and players must be 3+1observer or greater
15:30.50trepanthe ':' character separates the text filter from the game options
15:30.54delusional_can that var be used in config.cfg?  he needs to lock it permanently.
15:31.05trepanya, that would be in config.cfg
15:31.14delusional_ok
15:34.09BulletCatcherUsing '|' rather than ',' as a an 'or' filter separator would be more familiar to programmers.
15:34.42trepan& makes more sense than |, given the nature of the filtering
15:34.49trepanbut ',' makes it easier to reaod
15:34.52trepan*read
15:35.19BulletCatcherAs long as you support only one of the boolean operations, then ',' is fine.
15:35.55trepaneither way, i'm not to concerned about it ... didn't plan on committing
15:36.58BulletCatcherIt would be a find addition to trunk, if you are so inclined.
15:37.05BulletCatchers/find/fine/
15:40.54delusional_you may also wish to filter specific servers.
15:46.04delusional_I agree with bulletcatcher that this would be an excellent addition. This type of request has been made before.I think it should not have a menu option, to keep it hidden as much as possible from kids. This will be a parent-safe feature.  I think there should also be a way to lock a client into some kind of COPPA mode, independent of callsign.
15:48.27trepanyou want a full-featured solution, you write it  ;)
15:48.33BulletCatcherHow would the COPPA client mode differ from normal?
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16:04.18delusional_right now, all a kid has to do to get out of COPPA is change his callsign.  A parent should be able to permanently place the client in COPPA status.  
16:04.35delusional_At mofo we have a groupban plugin...  we ban the coppa group
16:04.42blast007delusional_: COPPA has nothing to do with what server a child should be able to join
16:04.52blast007it's only about data collection
16:10.27BulletCatcherblast007, Constitution: have you seen any 'tried to send invalid message before Enter;' log messages with 2.0.15?
16:10.29BulletCatcherI got a couple of them for 0x6175 (MsgAutoPilot), and plan to add that to the exceptions list next to MsgAlive.
16:11.01blast007BulletCatcher: I use the logDetail plugin, so I don't get any such messages
16:11.37blast007just a generic "/rejected" message for their 'part' (which is also what shows up if someone is banned, has a non-readable callsign, etc)
16:12.43BulletCatcherOkay.  The message I am looking for would show up on stdout when bzfs is run with -d (only 1 needed).
16:12.59blast007I run with no -d at all ;)
16:13.21BulletCatcherYeah.  Your logs would tend to be large. :-)
16:13.36blast007even with logDetail it gets big
16:13.49blast007though I should probably rotate my log file...
16:14.22blast0071.1GB log right now from the last 10 months
16:14.45BulletCatcherI use a new log file whenever I restart bzfs.  That works well enough.
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16:24.02Thumper_BulletCatcher: I can check my logs
16:24.10BulletCatcherThanks.
16:24.42Thumper_I get those messages on Mar 25, nothing later than that
16:25.38blast007BulletCatcher: also, I wouldn't bother with MsgAutoPilot. That's probably just someone trying to turn on autopilot on a server that doesn't allow it ;)
16:26.03BulletCatcherOkay.  I am mostly interested in any other message codes that I haven't seen yet.
16:26.18blast007hmm.. or is that checked even after the map and stuff is showing and while global auth is being checked?
16:26.22Thumper_so since the upgrade I haven't seen that message at all
16:26.41BulletCatcherIndeed, my server doesn't allow autopilot, but the check for that is supposed to be later in the code.
16:26.49blast007I know previous people with hit the autopilot key during join (before they got the BZDB variable that said bots were disabled)
16:27.03blast007previously people would*
16:27.10blast007can't type..
16:27.48BulletCatcherActually, in my case they were trying to join with bots.
16:28.14BulletCatcherAlso forbidden, but the check for that is elsewhere.
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16:31.07BulletCatcherdelusional_: Sufficiently clever children will be able to find a way around any restrictions we (BZFlag developers) might provide for their parents.
16:31.08BulletCatcherThat doesn't mean we must do nothing, but any features of that sort would be effective for only the youngest children, who IMO ought to be directly supervised while playing anyway.
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