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| 01:36.56 | Yassen | Is it possible to use a different folder for saving configs and storing the cache besides Documents/My BZFlag Files on Windows? |
| 01:37.05 | JefferyM | yep |
| 01:37.18 | blast007 | sorta. not sure if it worked completely in 2.0.x |
| 01:37.34 | JefferyM | it would have if I'd have writen it right :) |
| 01:37.41 | blast007 | sure ;) |
| 01:37.48 | blast007 | and it might have only been borked on Windows |
| 01:37.59 | blast007 | think it was some / vs \ issue |
| 01:38.01 | JefferyM | 14 shuld be ok with using the configdir option |
| 01:38.10 | blast007 | k |
| 01:38.11 | JefferyM | I remember fixing some of those bugs at one point |
| 01:38.25 | JefferyM | we really should change where stuff goes for 3 |
| 01:38.31 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:38.39 | JefferyM | configs should go into the profile |
| 01:38.54 | blast007 | screenshots get overwritten if you go from 2.99.x back to 2.0.x |
| 01:39.01 | JefferyM | cache in the app data dir, and screeenshots into the my pictures |
| 01:39.12 | blast007 | (2.99.x checks for the next available file, 2.0.x has a counter in the config) |
| 01:39.13 | JefferyM | yeah I'd make it make a folder for the date |
| 01:39.55 | JefferyM | pictures are the only "user" files that we should thorw into the user libraries |
| 01:40.03 | JefferyM | the rest are techincal "application support" |
| 01:40.16 | blast007 | true |
| 01:40.26 | blast007 | and cache can be cleared from in the client |
| 01:40.33 | JefferyM | be nice to break the config into 2 parts too, one for performance settings /network stuff and one for user settings |
| 01:40.42 | JefferyM | then put the golbal settings in all users. |
| 01:40.52 | JefferyM | or maybe let us merge configs |
| 01:41.01 | JefferyM | all users, then merge in user prefs |
| 01:41.14 | blast007 | hmm |
| 01:41.24 | blast007 | yeah, that would need some thought put into it |
| 01:42.16 | JefferyM | well that and how we should be doing the entire data dir |
| 01:42.28 | JefferyM | it should also be a global/local merge |
| 01:42.56 | JefferyM | then we can make a data patcher :) |
| 01:43.00 | JefferyM | goes to fix stuff |
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| 05:38.50 | JeffM2501 | and I think it's going to be a long long time till touchdown brings me round again to find I'm not the man they thing I am at home. |
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| 16:16.31 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - added default waterLevel name = "water" |
| 16:16.31 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: can now save a map with a waterLevel without crashing |
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| 16:30.16 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - adjusted the materials for ground, grid and water, not noticeable yet, but will be with later commits |
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| 16:47.36 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03runic * r20886 10/trunk/bzworkbench/src/model/SceneBuilder.cpp: |
| 16:47.36 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - SceneBuilder::assignMaterial now supports transparency. |
| 16:47.36 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - selected objects are still green but is now also 50% transparent |
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| 17:05.28 | JefferyM | ahh the fun of the morning board crawl :) |
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| 17:21.57 | JefferyM | wishes he could find an open source facebook clone |
| 17:22.56 | Dontkillme | Jeffrey;_ http://sourceforge.net/projects/fillmash/ - "FillMash is an open source facebook clone built using PHP-based Drupal. Facebook is a social community site and this clone mirrors the similar functionality and design." |
| 17:23.01 | Dontkillme | *JeffreyM |
| 17:23.09 | JefferyM | yeah.. try to get code for that ;) |
| 17:23.13 | JefferyM | can use google too |
| 17:23.15 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 0388.75.36.40 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6976 10/w/Editing_by_Hand: Undo revision 6975 by [[Special:Contributions/Cobra Fast|Cobra Fast]] ([[User talk:Cobra Fast|Talk]]) Boxes and others are able to take shift |
| 17:23.54 | JefferyM | tho we'd have to tweak it a lot I'd think |
| 17:24.14 | JefferyM | what I want is a page per player, then the ability to make groups for teams and leagues |
| 17:24.25 | JefferyM | so that would need groups that can have groups |
| 17:24.34 | Runic | why not just build it |
| 17:24.38 | JefferyM | time |
| 17:24.49 | JefferyM | and I am not a web app god :) |
| 17:25.06 | TheRedBaron | just a lesser deity ? |
| 17:25.08 | blast007 | waves his arms around |
| 17:25.11 | JefferyM | not even |
| 17:25.17 | JefferyM | writes some crappy php code |
| 17:25.27 | JefferyM | heh |
| 17:25.29 | Runic | lol |
| 17:25.41 | JefferyM | blast007 is at least minor deity status |
| 17:25.49 | BulletCatcher | "When someone asks if you are a god, you say yes!" |
| 17:26.09 | blast007 | this is one I had found before, but I haven't tried it: http://elgg.org/ |
| 17:26.13 | JefferyM | no one steps on a church in my town |
| 17:26.38 | Runic | God doesn't need PHP |
| 17:26.57 | JefferyM | hmm they do have auth plugins that's good |
| 17:28.58 | JefferyM | blast007, that does look promicing |
| 17:31.19 | JefferyM | GAHHH... godaddy changed the DNS control panel AGAIN! |
| 17:32.18 | blast007 | JefferyM: you referring to the dashboard? |
| 17:32.42 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 17:32.49 | blast007 | I don't use that |
| 17:32.58 | JefferyM | I have to use it to get to the "total dns" control |
| 17:33.08 | blast007 | on the domain page, if you click "advanced details" instead of the domain, you get to a better page |
| 17:33.17 | blast007 | one that has a link right to total DNS |
| 17:33.38 | JefferyM | I found what I needed, it just sucks they seem to change the daskboard every month or so. |
| 17:34.09 | JefferyM | time to make a vhost and see if I can crash the server again :) |
| 17:34.09 | Runic | ain't progress great! |
| 17:34.30 | blast007 | for me, the dashboard was completely useless, since the only 'sevices' I have through them are the domain, and DNS ;) |
| 17:36.15 | JefferyM | it is mostly useless |
| 17:40.53 | JefferyM | waits for the thing to upload |
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| 18:05.46 | BulletCatcher | moonpix: If you'll connect to BRL.ARPA.NET:5157 we'll find out whether I have fixed your problem with 2.0.14 servers. |
| 18:07.34 | JefferyM | blast007, http://social.awesomelaser.com |
| 18:08.44 | moonpix | yay |
| 18:08.54 | moonpix | good job :) |
| 18:09.20 | moonpix | BulletCatcher: thanks |
| 18:09.32 | BulletCatcher | You're welcome. |
| 18:10.07 | BulletCatcher | I'll commit the change this weekend, and get the other BRL servers upgraded too. |
| 18:13.14 | BulletCatcher | A single MsgPlayerUpdateSmall comes in before he is fully connected. I changed the code to ignore it rather than kick. |
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| 18:14.18 | BulletCatcher | I also have it ignoring premature MsgAlive and MsgMessage, as I have seen those too. |
| 18:15.10 | BulletCatcher | I have even seen premature MsgExit, and I just let those be processed normally. |
| 18:27.52 | JefferyM | blast007, I think it might work, with a few plugins |
| 18:29.18 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03runic * r20887 10/trunk/bzworkbench/src/render/Selection.cpp: |
| 18:29.18 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: updated on screen selection translate, rotate and scale tool graphics |
| 18:29.18 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - adjusted materials used, they are now transparent |
| 18:29.18 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - also adjusted the geometry some |
| 18:29.18 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - made it so it they are drawn last, above everything else |
| 18:34.48 | joevano | yay... i have a friend ;-) thanks Jeff |
| 18:34.58 | JefferyM | heh |
| 18:35.03 | JefferyM | it dosn't actualy make me confirm it |
| 18:35.17 | JefferyM | not sure if that is cool or not |
| 18:35.26 | joevano | nope. it took me a while to find you as well |
| 18:36.09 | JefferyM | there maybe themes that have better layouts |
| 18:37.01 | joevano | i see something like this as being very appealing to the community |
| 18:37.08 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 18:37.12 | JefferyM | I made you an admin |
| 18:37.23 | joevano | cool, thanks |
| 18:37.33 | JefferyM | with something like this we woudln't need leauge or player sections on bzbb |
| 18:37.41 | JefferyM | and it'd keep it nice and seperate |
| 18:38.03 | JefferyM | then the 'harsh" rules of bzbb would affect fewer people that would butt up against them |
| 18:39.33 | JefferyM | brlcad, you alive? |
| 18:41.17 | BulletCatcher | Man. One login failure because I hadn't enabled cookies and I am locked out of the Social Test. |
| 18:43.13 | JefferyM | wow that sucks |
| 18:43.39 | JefferyM | I don't even see you in the user list |
| 18:43.42 | joevano | BulletCatcher: we have standards ;-) |
| 18:43.52 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 18:44.08 | JefferyM | it does have authentication plugin support, so I'd hope that we could make it use phpbb |
| 18:44.13 | JefferyM | or weblogin |
| 18:44.14 | BulletCatcher | Oh. I bet the registration failed without cookies. I'll try again. |
| 18:45.06 | BulletCatcher | Bah. Usernames must be at least 4 characters. |
| 18:47.53 | JefferyM | another option could be somethign like this drupal mod, http://drupal.org/node/339148 |
| 18:49.48 | BulletCatcher | It looks like the Elgg confirmation e-mail didn't make it through the spam filters, so I can't complete the registration. |
| 18:50.54 | JefferyM | yeah I don't have properly configured domain names for email :) |
| 18:51.21 | JefferyM | and you STILL don't show up in the list |
| 18:51.57 | BulletCatcher | I assume I would show up after clicking the confirmation link, if I could receive it. |
| 18:53.00 | JefferyM | guess getting a weblogin plugin is paramount then |
| 18:53.26 | JefferyM | I can create an account for you |
| 19:03.31 | JefferyM | I just hope I didn't pooch your account by mucking with the data |
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| 19:14.25 | BulletCatcher | As someone who is not on Facebook and so has few expectations, Elgg looks promising. |
| 19:14.53 | JefferyM | you may want to look at the plug-ins on there site as well |
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| 19:25.08 | BulletCatcher | The first confirmation e-mail finally showed up. It sat on social.awesomelaser.com for 26 minutes before getting out. |
| 19:30.49 | JefferyM | I don't have MX records :) |
| 19:31.34 | BulletCatcher | That is sooo early '80s. |
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| 20:24.40 | JefferyM | BulletCatcher, if I knew how to set them up I'd do it :) |
| 20:25.22 | JefferyM | I'll see if I can get brlcad to set up a vhost on the new server then get TimRiker to point social.bzflag.org to it |
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| 20:35.37 | JefferyM | what the heck are TXT and SRV dns records? |
| 20:38.01 | Tupone | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TXT_record#TXT |
| 20:39.20 | JefferyM | ahh so nothing I should care about :) |
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| 21:55.20 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - added a check in SceneBuilder::assignBZMaterial to not set the state on the node when the state or object is null |
| 21:55.20 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: - added not_found.png |
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| 23:29.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | does anyone know if LouMan's lego textures from legoland are licensed? |
| 23:30.05 | mrapplecomputer1 | they're at trepan.bzflag.bz/legos/ but i cant find a license |
| 23:32.11 | blast007 | ask louman ;) |
| 23:32.34 | blast007 | though trepan might know as well |
| 23:34.34 | JefferyM | didn't he include them in his post for the map on bzbb? |
| 23:34.45 | mrapplecomputer1 | hm he might of ill look |
| 23:37.57 | mrapplecomputer1 | nope cant find them |
| 23:38.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | cant find a license* |
| 23:40.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | trepan: you there? |
| 23:41.17 | JefferyM | there wasn't a post for the map? |
| 23:41.38 | me1_ | iirc, louman hasn't posted any of his maps on bzbb |
| 23:41.49 | me1_ | at least in recorded history |
| 23:42.14 | me1_ | looking in the map releases forum a lot of posts seem to be missing |
| 23:42.22 | me1_ | (at least they used to be) |
| 23:42.29 | JefferyM | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=11988&p=119266#p119266 |
| 23:42.37 | JefferyM | that was one I found quite quicly |
| 23:43.09 | mrapplecomputer1 | there was, but no license |
| 23:43.42 | JefferyM | then you have to assume they are not licensed |
| 23:43.48 | JefferyM | what do you want to do with them? |
| 23:44.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | i made an image that had three of his legos in them, red yellow and green |
| 23:45.04 | JefferyM | ok and what do you want to do with it? |
| 23:45.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | uplaod it to images.bzflag.org |
| 23:45.50 | JefferyM | send him a PM on the forums and ask him what license those images were released under |
| 23:45.56 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 23:45.57 | JefferyM | the map was released, but the images were not |
| 23:45.59 | mrapplecomputer1 | is he ever on IRC? |
| 23:46.02 | JefferyM | nope |
| 23:46.08 | mrapplecomputer1 | dang |
| 23:46.10 | JefferyM | PM or email gives you a log of it anyway |
| 23:46.12 | JefferyM | so it's better |
| 23:46.19 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 23:46.52 | JefferyM | when it comes to copyright you want to be as clear as possible |
| 23:46.56 | JefferyM | specialy since you are a minor |
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